(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:36 pm
Post subject: can only boot into xp Add to elertz Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsxp>general (more info?)
I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the
first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.
now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for
the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.
how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want? my
hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i want or
have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that comes up
for some people on their systems when they dual boot.
(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:25 pm
Post subject: Re: can only boot into xp Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"AMDX2" <s DeleteThis @s.com> wrote in message news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the first
>and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.
>
> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for the
> boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.
>
> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want? my
> hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i want or
> have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that comes up
> for some people on their systems when they dual boot.
>
> thanks.
>
(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:05 pm
Post subject: Re: can only boot into xp Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"AMDX2" <s.TakeThisOut@s.com> wrote in message news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the first
>and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.
>
> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for the
> boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.
>
> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want? my
> hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i want or
> have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that comes up
> for some people on their systems when they dual boot.
>
> thanks.
>
You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.
Install the program in XP.
Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.
Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.
Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.
Restart and see if you can access Vista.
On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider addressing.
No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows Server
2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows operating
system
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us
(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:05 pm
Post subject: Re: can only boot into xp Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan.TakeThisOut@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
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> "AMDX2" <s.TakeThisOut@s.com> wrote in message
> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the
>>first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.
>>
>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive
>> for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.
>>
>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want?
>> my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i
>> want or have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu
>> that comes up for some people on their systems when they dual boot.
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>
>
> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.
>
> VistaBootPRO 3.3
> http://www.vistabootpro.org/ >
> Install the program in XP.
> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.
> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.
> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.
> Restart and see if you can access Vista.
>
> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider
> addressing.
>
> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows
> Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows
> operating system
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us >
> Good luck
>
> Nepatsfan
>
Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this
seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the boot
inof and then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot a menu
that says vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can accomplish this all
from within xp. to clear the boot info and reboot having the vista boot menu
show vista and xp.
(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:28 am
Post subject: Re: can only boot into xp Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"AMDX2" <s DeleteThis @s.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan DeleteThis @SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "AMDX2" <s DeleteThis @s.com> wrote in message
>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the first
>>>and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.
>>>
>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for
>>> the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.
>>>
>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want? my
>>> hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i want or
>>> have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that comes up
>>> for some people on their systems when they dual boot.
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.
>>
>> VistaBootPRO 3.3
>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/ >>
>> Install the program in XP.
>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.
>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.
>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.
>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.
>>
>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider addressing.
>>
>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows Server
>> 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows operating
>> system
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us >>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Nepatsfan
>>
>
> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this seems
> way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the boot inof and
> then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot a menu that says
> vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can accomplish this all from within
> xp. to clear the boot info and reboot having the vista boot menu show vista
> and xp.
>
The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the older
operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then install the newer OS,
Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take both operating systems into
account and present you with a menu when you start the computer where you can
choose which version of Windows you want to run. You did the exact opposite,
installed the older OS last. That's why you can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out
Vista's bootloader and replaced it with its own.
As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation DVD and
select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask someone in the Vista
newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll lose the ability to boot into XP.
With that in mind, I suggested you try VistaBootPRO. Running VistaBootPRO from
within Windows XP is the easiest way to restore your ability to boot into Vista
and retain the option of booting into XP. Once you restore the Vista bootloader,
you'll see a menu at startup that gives you an option to boot into Vista or XP.
As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up and running
again you'll find that any restore points that were created prior to installing
XP will be gone. You might want to ask for some clarification on the Vista
newsgroup but the only way I know of preventing that from happening on a dual
boot system is to hide the Vista installation from XP.
(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:55 am
Post subject: Re: can only boot into xp Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it
deletes system restore data, so thats out of the question.
"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan.DeleteThis@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
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> "AMDX2" <s.DeleteThis@s.com> wrote in message
> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan.DeleteThis@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> "AMDX2" <s.DeleteThis@s.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the
>>>>first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.
>>>>
>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive
>>>> for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.
>>>>
>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i
>>>> want? my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what
>>>> drive i want or have that option when i start the pc like from os
>>>> choice menu that comes up for some people on their systems when they
>>>> dual boot.
>>>>
>>>> thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.
>>>
>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3
>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/ >>>
>>> Install the program in XP.
>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.
>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.
>>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.
>>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.
>>>
>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider
>>> addressing.
>>>
>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows
>>> Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier
>>> Windows operating system
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us >>>
>>> Good luck
>>>
>>> Nepatsfan
>>>
>>
>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this
>> seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the
>> boot inof and then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot a
>> menu that says vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can accomplish
>> this all from within xp. to clear the boot info and reboot having the
>> vista boot menu show vista and xp.
>>
>
> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the older
> operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then install the
> newer OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take both operating
> systems into account and present you with a menu when you start the
> computer where you can choose which version of Windows you want to run.
> You did the exact opposite, installed the older OS last. That's why you
> can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out Vista's bootloader and replaced it
> with its own.
>
> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation DVD
> and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask someone in
> the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll lose the ability
> to boot into XP. With that in mind, I suggested you try VistaBootPRO.
> Running VistaBootPRO from within Windows XP is the easiest way to restore
> your ability to boot into Vista and retain the option of booting into XP.
> Once you restore the Vista bootloader, you'll see a menu at startup that
> gives you an option to boot into Vista or XP.
>
> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up and
> running again you'll find that any restore points that were created prior
> to installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask for some
> clarification on the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know of preventing
> that from happening on a dual boot system is to hide the Vista
> installation from XP.
>
> Good luck
>
> Nepatsfan
>
>
>
(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:44 am
Post subject: Re: can only boot into xp Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
> See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it
> deletes system restore data, so thats out of the question.
>
>
> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan.RemoveThis@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
> news:OAXnu7g7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "AMDX2" <s.RemoveThis@s.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan.RemoveThis@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> "AMDX2" <s.RemoveThis@s.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on
>>>>>the first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard
>>>>> drive for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.
>>>>>
>>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when
>>>>> i want? my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then
>>>>> what drive i want or have that option when i start the pc like
>>>>> from os choice menu that comes up for some people on their systems
>>>>> when they dual boot.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.
>>>>
>>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3
>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/ >>>>
>>>> Install the program in XP.
>>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.
>>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista
>>>> Bootloader. Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader
>>>> button. Restart and see if you can access Vista.
>>>>
>>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider
>>>> addressing.
>>>>
>>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or
>>>> Windows Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an
>>>> earlier Windows operating system
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us >>>>
>>>> Good luck
>>>>
>>>> Nepatsfan
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all
>>> this seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp
>>> clear the boot inof and then be able to boot into vista and have
>>> durring the boot a menu that says vista and windows xp. i don't know
>>> if you can accomplish this all from within xp. to clear the boot
>>> info and reboot having the vista boot menu show vista and xp.
>>>
>>
>> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the
>> older operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then
>> install the newer OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take
>> both operating systems into account and present you with a menu when
>> you start the computer where you can choose which version of Windows
>> you want to run. You did the exact opposite, installed the older OS
>> last. That's why you can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out Vista's
>> bootloader and replaced it with its own.
>>
>> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista
>> installation DVD and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd
>> have to ask someone in the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do
>> that you'll lose the ability to boot into XP. With that in mind, I
>> suggested you try VistaBootPRO. Running VistaBootPRO from within
>> Windows XP is the easiest way to restore your ability to boot into
>> Vista and retain the option of booting into XP. Once you restore the
>> Vista bootloader, you'll see a menu at startup that gives you an
>> option to boot into Vista or XP.
>>
>> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up
>> and running again you'll find that any restore points that were
>> created prior to installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask
>> for some clarification on the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know
>> of preventing that from happening on a dual boot system is to hide
>> the Vista installation from XP.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Nepatsfan
>>
>>
>>
>
>
I don't think it's VistaBootPro that deletes restore points but it's the
fact that you run Vista with an older OS without hiding the Vista part
from the older OS. Your restore points in Vista are probably already
gone.
(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:47 am
Post subject: Re: can only boot into xp Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
First off, I think you've misunderstood the point I was trying to make in my
earlier response. System Restore is a feature available in Windows Vista. I'm
getting the impression that you have it confused with some sort of system
recovery that many computer manufacturers provide to restore the computer's
operating system. The files for this recovery are usually stored on a hidden
partition. That's not what I'm talking about.
As Duom has already pointed out VistaBootPRO isn't the reason why you lose
restore points. The reason is pointed out in the Microsoft article I cited
earlier.
I see in the Vista General newsgroup you've tried fixing this problem using
bcdedit.exe. VistaBootPRO does the same thing as bcdedit.exe except it provides
a graphical interface as opposed to using the command prompt. As a matter of
fact, it allows you to change the timeout value and the text for the entries on
the boot menu on the "Manage OS Entries" tab.
Nepatsfan
"AMDX2" <s.RemoveThis@s.com> wrote in message news:OzUnLvi7IHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it deletes
> system restore data, so thats out of the question.
>
>
> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan.RemoveThis@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
> news:OAXnu7g7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "AMDX2" <s.RemoveThis@s.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan.RemoveThis@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> "AMDX2" <s.RemoveThis@s.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the
>>>>>first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for
>>>>> the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.
>>>>>
>>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want?
>>>>> my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i
>>>>> want or have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that
>>>>> comes up for some people on their systems when they dual boot.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.
>>>>
>>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3
>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/ >>>>
>>>> Install the program in XP.
>>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.
>>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.
>>>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.
>>>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.
>>>>
>>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider addressing.
>>>>
>>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows
>>>> Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows
>>>> operating system
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us >>>>
>>>> Good luck
>>>>
>>>> Nepatsfan
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this
>>> seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the boot
>>> inof and then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot a menu
>>> that says vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can accomplish this all
>>> from within xp. to clear the boot info and reboot having the vista boot menu
>>> show vista and xp.
>>>
>>
>> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the older
>> operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then install the newer
>> OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take both operating systems into
>> account and present you with a menu when you start the computer where you can
>> choose which version of Windows you want to run. You did the exact opposite,
>> installed the older OS last. That's why you can't boot into Vista. XP wiped
>> out Vista's bootloader and replaced it with its own.
>>
>> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation DVD
>> and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask someone in
>> the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll lose the ability to
>> boot into XP. With that in mind, I suggested you try VistaBootPRO. Running
>> VistaBootPRO from within Windows XP is the easiest way to restore your
>> ability to boot into Vista and retain the option of booting into XP. Once you
>> restore the Vista bootloader, you'll see a menu at startup that gives you an
>> option to boot into Vista or XP.
>>
>> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up and
>> running again you'll find that any restore points that were created prior to
>> installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask for some clarification on
>> the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know of preventing that from happening
>> on a dual boot system is to hide the Vista installation from XP.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Nepatsfan
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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