Whats causing this???

Hi Bruce,

Thanks very much for your input, it is very much appreciated.

Then problem i am failing to understand is why did this also fail with the
PS2 connectors in the same way as the USB? Perhaps this suggests that it is
not a problem with the KVM but something else.

Regards.

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Flinty


"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> Peter F wrote:
> > Hi Bruce,
> >
> > Thanks very much for your reply. Is there anywhere that i can get further
> > information on your comment? I would need to elaborate on why NT does not
> > support USB?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
>
>
> After all, Windows NT was released years before the USB interface was
> developed and standardized. Anyone in your IT department would be able
> to tell you this, unless they're so new to the career that they've never
> seen WinNT.
>
> Microsoft decided, and announced, roughly a decade ago,that there
> would *not* be any USB support built into WinNT, regardless of service
> pack. There is no Microsoft-approved/supported patch to add USB support
> to WinNT.
>
> Windows NT 4.0 Does Not Support Universal Serial Bus
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q196/6/61.ASP
>
>
>
>
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Hi Bruce,

Just a quick question, when we mention that USB is not supported under NT4
are we saying that there is NOT a USB Physical port present on the NT4
machine?

Regards.

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Flinty


"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> Peter F wrote:
> > Hi Bruce,
> >
> > Thanks very much for your reply. Is there anywhere that i can get further
> > information on your comment? I would need to elaborate on why NT does not
> > support USB?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
>
>
> After all, Windows NT was released years before the USB interface was
> developed and standardized. Anyone in your IT department would be able
> to tell you this, unless they're so new to the career that they've never
> seen WinNT.
>
> Microsoft decided, and announced, roughly a decade ago,that there
> would *not* be any USB support built into WinNT, regardless of service
> pack. There is no Microsoft-approved/supported patch to add USB support
> to WinNT.
>
> Windows NT 4.0 Does Not Support Universal Serial Bus
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q196/6/61.ASP
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
>

"Peter F" <PeterF.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DD346C8D-AFE8-4962-854F-60EF5B34D337@microsoft.com...
> Hi Philo,
>
> Thanks for taking the time to comment...
>
> I am still trying to understand the whole thing as i have not yet visited
> site. Is there a physical USB connector on the NT4 machine or does it not
> exist? As for the 3rd party USB do you have any further details of this or
a
> web link so that i can explore the possibility.
>
> I also dont understand why the same problem occurred when they plugged a
PS2
> mouse but still got the problem? Does that indicate anything different
with
> NT4?
>
> The way around this problem at the moment is that they are using a stand
> alone mouse connected to the NT4 box. This seems to work ok.
>
> Any comments on the above would be greatly received.
>
> Regards.
>
>

A machine running NT4 could very well have a motherboard that is USB
capable.

As far as NT4 USB support, I never kept the link as the machines could be
upgraded to Win2000
for less money, plus it not only required software, it required hardware
changes...
It was definitely not worth it.

One other thing, is if you can find KVM switches with serial ports, a serial
mouse will probably work.

However, you never mentioned if the PS/2 mouse works when connected
directly...
the problem may not be with the KVM switch

Peter F wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> Thanks very much for your input, it is very much appreciated.
>
> Then problem i am failing to understand is why did this also fail with the
> PS2 connectors in the same way as the USB?


Was the system powered down when you made the PS/2 connection? If not,
there's a very small chance that the motherboard was damaged. Also if
not, has the computer been rebooted after making the PS/2 connection so
that it could be detected by the OS?





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killed a great many philosophers.
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Peter F wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> Just a quick question, when we mention that USB is not supported under NT4
> are we saying that there is NOT a USB Physical port present on the NT4
> machine?
>


No, the presence of one or more physical USB ports would be irrelevant.
If present, WinNT still could not use them, as the OS had no built-in
device drivers for USB. Some 3rd party manufacturers, like Iomega, did
provide proprietary WinNT USB with some of their devices, but most
didn't bother, as WinNT was well into the "legacy" phase when USB became
widely accepted.


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Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot