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Paul25

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:11 am
Post subject: Re: Security Update for IE7 WinXP KB950759 fails to install Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsupdate, others (more info?)

Probably it still installed tho

I'm still running it now

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23RHmAQT2IHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Then one assumes you had a horked install of SP3.
>
> Paul wrote:
>> I had the same prob with the same KB
>>
>> I had to reinstall IE 7, to fix it.
>>
>> It installed no prob after that
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23WkQpiK2IHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> So you are saying there are no glitches in service pack 3?
>>>
>>> Did I say that? No, I was merely commenting on your claim that a
>>> glitch
>>> in SP3 that prevents the installation of future updates.
>>>
>>> If KB943144 was your fix, I must assume that you encountered the issue
>>> because you'd done a Repair Install, a Recovery install, or a clean
>>> install of WinXP (or upgraded to WinXP) just before you installed SP3.
>>>
>>>> ...Would it
>>>> be too much to ask to let the user know in advance before he clicks
>>>> about
>>>> this issue so that they are not stumbling around in the dark believing
>>>> that
>>>> their computer is to blame? I mean hours, even days can be wasted on
>>>> something that you'd think was not too elementary for the makers of
>>>> this
>>>> software.
>>>
>>> No one here works for or represents Microsoft, including MS MVPs, but I
>>> hear you. My sources tell me that this issue will be fixed later this
>>> year with the release of new versions of Windows Update Agent and
>>> Microsoft Update Agent, both currently in beta (one hears).
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, you're welcome & thanks for your feedback.
>>>
>>> PS: There are *tons* of posts in the newsgroups about this problem. In
>>> 99% of them, KB943144 was posted as the fix. A little Google searching
>>> before you'd posted here would have led you to them:
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=943144+group%3Amicrosoft.public.*&qt_s=Search
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~PA Bear
>>>
>>>
>>> WiliguezJr wrote:
>>>> So you are saying there are no glitches in service pack 3? I think
>>>> with
>>>> your 1 link
>>>> you resolved the issue. I didn't know about the file that stood on its
>>>> own.
>>>> WOW! Thanks for the input. As a user I do have a suggestion. Would
>>>> it
>>>> be too much to ask to let the user know in advance before he clicks
>>>> about
>>>> this issue so that they are not stumbling around in the dark believing
>>>> that
>>>> their computer is to blame? I mean hours, even days can be wasted on
>>>> something that you'd think was not too elementary for the makers of
>>>> this
>>>> software.
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>> ...There
>>>>>> is a glitch in service pack 3 that prevents future updates from
>>>>>> installing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Horse hockey!
>>>>>
>>>>> CrystalBall© sez...
>>>>>
>>>>> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from
>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>> Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
>>>>> installation:
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
>>>>>
>>>>> NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery
>>>>> installs. --
>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> WiliguezJr wrote:
>>>>>> I just bought an HP laptop from my cousin and I been redoing
>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>> My
>>>>>> system is immaculate until I tried to install (KB950759). I got
>>>>>> anti-virus
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> firewall protection that I am confortable with. The problem is not
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> area. There
>>>>>> is a glitch in service pack 3 that prevents future updates from
>>>>>> installing.
>>>>>> I wasn't able to install musicmatch AT ALL! So I had to REFORMAT
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> drive
>>>>>> in order to get it on the computer. And so I quickly got the updates
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> before something
>>>>>> else went wrong. BUT HERE IS THE ANSWER: I found that uninstalling
>>>>>> service
>>>>>> pack 3 from "add and remove" programs and reinstalling from windows
>>>>>> update
>>>>>> can give you
>>>>>> another shot at it! It can correct the problem. In my case it did
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is really the only solution that I, with my years of experience have
>>>>>> come
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> with. We all know that when we have a computer we will be frustrated.
>>>>>> We've
>>>>>> all gone through it so just remember you are not alone.
>>>>> <snip>
>
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Jelle Fresen

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Security Update for IE7 WinXP KB950759 fails to install Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>internetexplorer>general, others (more info?)

Hi,

I have the same problem as ju.c, only I cannot use the proposed solution.

My situation is as follows: I am preparing an unattended Windows
installation, based on the student edition downloaded from MSDNAA
(en_winxp_pro_with_sp2.iso). I slipstreamed SP3 (I used the network
install version [1], as recommended by msfn [2]) together with all
updates that can be slipstreamed [3]. Furthermore, I integrated several
other updates via SVCPACK.INF [4], including IE7.

After installation of this windows setup, I experienced the same error
as ju.c, but you can see that it is not an option for me to uninstall
SP3. I was wondering, could I slipstream the Express Install into my
windows source (i.e., does it also support the /s:<path> switch) and
would that solve my problem? And in case that wouldn't solve the
problem, what else could I change in the setup of my windows
installation so that update 950759 will work.

TIA,
Jelle Fresen

[1]
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76...1f-be08
[2] http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/2/
[3] All updates that use update.exe as installer engine:
kb892130, kb898461, kb941569, kb942763, kb950760, kb950762,
kb951376, kb951698, kb951748, kb951978.
[4] kb923789, WUA 7.1.6001.65, Root Certificates Update, kb890830,
Internet Explorer 7

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> From KB950759-IE7.log:
>> "AnalyzeForBranching: files installed on target workstation are from
>> sp3bta
>> branch which is incompatible with sp2gdr branch"
>
> Uninstall WinXP SP3 Beta/Release Candidate via Add/Remove Programs, then
> install WinXP SP3 RTM via Windows Update.
>
> How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 3 from your computer:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950249
>
> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3...ad-all-
>
>
> Steps to take before you install WinXP SP3
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
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Harry Johnston [MVP]

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Since: May 07, 2008
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:10 am
Post subject: Re: Security Update for IE7 WinXP KB950759 fails to install Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Jelle Fresen wrote:

> My situation is as follows: I am preparing an unattended Windows
> installation, based on the student edition downloaded from MSDNAA
> (en_winxp_pro_with_sp2.iso). I slipstreamed SP3 (I used the network
> install version [1], as recommended by msfn [2]) together with all
> updates that can be slipstreamed [3].

OK so far.

> Furthermore, I integrated several
> other updates via SVCPACK.INF [4], including IE7.

To the best of my knowledge, this isn't a supported procedure. I recommend you
drop IE7 and other non-slipstreamable updates from the Windows image. There are
various ways to post-install them automatically; contact me directly if you need
suggetsions.

(Incidentally, it would have been preferable if you had started a new thread to
describe your issue rather than following up to someone else's. Otherwise it
tends to cause confusion.)

Harry.
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sde

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(Msg. 36) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:30 pm
Post subject: RE: Security Update for IE7 WinXP KB950759 fails to install Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsxp>general, others (more info?)

sde

I dasabled the antivirus and the wondows fire wall but KB950759 still will
not install. WHat else can I do to get this to install properly????

"ju.c" wrote:

> "Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP (KB950759)" installation fails on XP Pro SP3. Automatic Updates was the first try, after that failed I downloaded the file from Microsoft Downloads. That too failed, so I tried the Microsoft Update Site. Same thing - fails. It seems to do a precondition check and something tells it to stop installing. Not anti-malware software, system fully updated and working perfectly. Any ideas or sympathy?
>
>
> ju
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ju.c

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(Msg. 37) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Security Update for IE7 WinXP KB950759 fails to install Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I'm ju.c, original poster.

I've had some time to think about the KB950759 install problem and I have an idea, but my
problem is fixed, so I don't have a test system.
Because the setup does a pre-condition check it makes sense to fool the installer.
Extract the files from KB950759 then search for the same files on your computer. I wonder
if deleting the copies that have the same file names as KB950759 that are in
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\ and anywhere else, except \system32\ or \Program
Files\Internet Explorer\ will be the trick.

My fix was uninstalling SP3. That replaced IE7 files, thus the KB950759 installed OK.

I'd love to know what the problem was, and if this works, I'll know.

Good luck!


ju.c


"sde" <sde.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> sde
>
> I dasabled the antivirus and the wondows fire wall but KB950759 still will
> not install. WHat else can I do to get this to install properly????
>
> "ju.c" wrote:
>
>> "Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP (KB950759)"
>> installation fails on XP Pro SP3. Automatic Updates was the first try, after that
>> failed I downloaded the file from Microsoft Downloads. That too failed, so I tried the
>> Microsoft Update Site. Same thing - fails. It seems to do a precondition check and
>> something tells it to stop installing. Not anti-malware software, system fully updated
>> and working perfectly. Any ideas or sympathy?
>>
>>
>> ju
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sde

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(Msg. 38) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Security Update for IE7 WinXP KB950759 fails to install Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks ju.c

So, should I uninstall SP3 then install KB950759 then reinstall SP3?

"ju.c" wrote:

> I'm ju.c, original poster.
>
> I've had some time to think about the KB950759 install problem and I have an idea, but my
> problem is fixed, so I don't have a test system.
> Because the setup does a pre-condition check it makes sense to fool the installer.
> Extract the files from KB950759 then search for the same files on your computer. I wonder
> if deleting the copies that have the same file names as KB950759 that are in
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\ and anywhere else, except \system32\ or \Program
> Files\Internet Explorer\ will be the trick.
>
> My fix was uninstalling SP3. That replaced IE7 files, thus the KB950759 installed OK.
>
> I'd love to know what the problem was, and if this works, I'll know.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> ju.c
>
>
> "sde" <sde RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:02ECF648-FCC9-4B75-9A5C-0FE7A18CA4A4@microsoft.com...
> > sde
> >
> > I dasabled the antivirus and the wondows fire wall but KB950759 still will
> > not install. WHat else can I do to get this to install properly????
> >
> > "ju.c" wrote:
> >
> >> "Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP (KB950759)"
> >> installation fails on XP Pro SP3. Automatic Updates was the first try, after that
> >> failed I downloaded the file from Microsoft Downloads. That too failed, so I tried the
> >> Microsoft Update Site. Same thing - fails. It seems to do a precondition check and
> >> something tells it to stop installing. Not anti-malware software, system fully updated
> >> and working perfectly. Any ideas or sympathy?
> >>
> >>
> >> ju
>
>
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ju.c

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(Msg. 39) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Security Update for IE7 WinXP KB950759 fails to install Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I uninstalled SP3, then re-installed it, then the update installed OK.

This is what I did:

1. Uninstall SP3.
2. Restart.
3. Run chkdsk.
Yes: Automatically fix file system errors.
No: Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors.
4. Install SP3.
5. Restart.
6. Restart again.
7. Install KB950759.

Good luck!


ju.c


"sde" <sde.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks ju.c
>
> So, should I uninstall SP3 then install KB950759 then reinstall SP3?
>
> "ju.c" wrote:
>
>> I'm ju.c, original poster.
>>
>> I've had some time to think about the KB950759 install problem and I have an idea, but
>> my
>> problem is fixed, so I don't have a test system.
>> Because the setup does a pre-condition check it makes sense to fool the installer.
>> Extract the files from KB950759 then search for the same files on your computer. I
>> wonder
>> if deleting the copies that have the same file names as KB950759 that are in
>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\ and anywhere else, except \system32\ or \Program
>> Files\Internet Explorer\ will be the trick.
>>
>> My fix was uninstalling SP3. That replaced IE7 files, thus the KB950759 installed OK.
>>
>> I'd love to know what the problem was, and if this works, I'll know.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>> ju.c
>>
>>
>> "sde" <sde.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:02ECF648-FCC9-4B75-9A5C-0FE7A18CA4A4@microsoft.com...
>> > sde
>> >
>> > I dasabled the antivirus and the wondows fire wall but KB950759 still will
>> > not install. WHat else can I do to get this to install properly????
>> >
>> > "ju.c" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP (KB950759)"
>> >> installation fails on XP Pro SP3. Automatic Updates was the first try, after that
>> >> failed I downloaded the file from Microsoft Downloads. That too failed, so I tried
>> >> the
>> >> Microsoft Update Site. Same thing - fails. It seems to do a precondition check and
>> >> something tells it to stop installing. Not anti-malware software, system fully
>> >> updated
>> >> and working perfectly. Any ideas or sympathy?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ju
>>
>>
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Harry Johnston [MVP]

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(Msg. 40) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:12 am
Post subject: Re: Security Update for IE7 WinXP KB950759 fails to install Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>internetexplorer>general, others (more info?)

I wrote:

>> Furthermore, I integrated several other updates via SVCPACK.INF [4],
>> including IE7.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, this isn't a supported procedure. I
> recommend you drop IE7 and other non-slipstreamable updates from the
> Windows image.

For the record, the svcpack.inf procedure *is* in fact supported, but only for
some older updates - specifically, updates using update.exe versions earlier
than 5.4.15.0. (This seems unlikely to include any updates applicable to SP3,
but YMMV; however, it certainly doesn't include IE7.)

The IE7 updater is based on update.exe, but doesn't support the /integrate
switch; I can only presume that there is a good reason for this and that
bypassing the restriction via svcpack.inf is likely to result in a broken
installation.

Reference:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828930

<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828930>

Harry.

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