Screen capture and data plotting

Thanks, Steven. That's a new twist worth looking at.

If some kind MVP is listening, could you lead me to more
documentation on clipbrd.exe?

You see, using the PrtScrn key on the screen when the
graph is there, does nothing visible. If it send
anything anywhere, I have no idea what or where.
Your implication is that clipbrd.exe with grab it
from wherever it is, and make it into something which
will appear if I just go to IrfanView and Paste it.
Well, I'll try it, and thank you, Steven.

steven DeleteThis @nospam.org wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:06:42 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
> <billurie DeleteThis @nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Several days ago, I asked some advice on how to do screen
>> capture under XP and was referred to Screen Hunter and
>> to Quick Screen Capture. I've tried both, and they work
>> but not in my application.
>
> You can capture the screen using the little used Print Screen key on
> your keyboard.
> Then use the poorly documented clipbrd.exe program that is
> built into Windows XP. It isn't even mentioned in Help.
> It will allow you to view the Clipboard graphic stored in
> memory.
>
> It is located in the Windows/system32 folder.
>
> You can convert the clipboard graphic to a JPG using
> Irfanview or another graphics program.
>
>> I'm running XP/SP2Also and I have an old DOS program which
>> plots data and makes graphs. I run it from Windows Explorer,
>> finding its .EXE program in its folder and executing it from
>> there. The graph appears full screen, but I have tried what
>> I think are all settings and combinations in Configuring
>> Quick Screen Capture and also in Screen Hunter. They both
>> work but I can't seem to grab the plot, which I believe may be
>> a "Full Screen" plot. I never seem to capture it to that I can
>> then copy it to a file, or Paste it into IrfanView..
>>
>> Some more advice specific to those capture programs would be
>> welcome, and also some other programs to try.....
>>
>> Also, if anybody knows of a good program for making graphs,
>> plots of a simple table of X-Y data, without all the advanced
>> frills of curve fitting and regression and other advanced
>> capabilities, please refer me to them.
>

The PrtScr button should save a bitmap image (.bmp) of your screen to
the clipboard. clipbrd.exe is the ClipBook viewer.

You should be able to paste the .bmp image into any photo program like
IrfanView or Photoshop or whatever program you normally use to view
photographs.

So, in theory, when you've got your full screen dos graphic, just hit
the PrtScr button. It will seem as though nothing has happened. Minimize
your dos graphic, use clipbrd.exe to veiw your saved graphic or open
your photo program and select Edit, Paste if you're using IrfanView.

William B. Lurie wrote:
> Thanks, Steven. That's a new twist worth looking at.
>
> If some kind MVP is listening, could you lead me to more
> documentation on clipbrd.exe?
>
> You see, using the PrtScrn key on the screen when the
> graph is there, does nothing visible. If it send
> anything anywhere, I have no idea what or where.
> Your implication is that clipbrd.exe with grab it
> from wherever it is, and make it into something which
> will appear if I just go to IrfanView and Paste it.
> Well, I'll try it, and thank you, Steven.
>
> steven.TakeThisOut@nospam.org wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:06:42 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
>> <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Several days ago, I asked some advice on how to do screen
>>> capture under XP and was referred to Screen Hunter and
>>> to Quick Screen Capture. I've tried both, and they work
>>> but not in my application.
>>
>> You can capture the screen using the little used Print Screen key on
>> your keyboard.
>> Then use the poorly documented clipbrd.exe program that is
>> built into Windows XP. It isn't even mentioned in Help.
>> It will allow you to view the Clipboard graphic stored in
>> memory.
>>
>> It is located in the Windows/system32 folder.
>>
>> You can convert the clipboard graphic to a JPG using
>> Irfanview or another graphics program.
>>
>>> I'm running XP/SP2Also and I have an old DOS program which
>>> plots data and makes graphs. I run it from Windows Explorer,
>>> finding its .EXE program in its folder and executing it from
>>> there. The graph appears full screen, but I have tried what
>>> I think are all settings and combinations in Configuring
>>> Quick Screen Capture and also in Screen Hunter. They both
>>> work but I can't seem to grab the plot, which I believe may be
>>> a "Full Screen" plot. I never seem to capture it to that I can
>>> then copy it to a file, or Paste it into IrfanView..
>>>
>>> Some more advice specific to those capture programs would be
>>> welcome, and also some other programs to try.....
>>>
>>> Also, if anybody knows of a good program for making graphs,
>>> plots of a simple table of X-Y data, without all the advanced
>>> frills of curve fitting and regression and other advanced
>>> capabilities, please refer me to them.
>>


--
JD..

"William B. Lurie" <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> using the PrtScrn key on the screen when the
> graph is there, does nothing visible.

1. We save a screen image to clipboard by
the two-key command
Alt + Print Screen (simultaneously.)

2. This image is in graphic format: so to display
or edit it we must put it into a graphic editor.
This is easiest done by MSPAINT
-- Start MSPAINT
- Paste the image from memory (hotkey Ctrl V)

We could use any other graphic editor but some
e.g. PhotoShop would require the extra step of
creating a new blank file. MSPAINT starts with a
new blank file preloaded so we can Paste the
screen image into it without delay -- and then edit
or process it as we please.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

I normally just use a shift-print-screen to capture the whole screen or
alt-print-screen to capture the active window, then a simple paste into the
program of my choice. Note that on most keyboards just hitting print-screen
will not work. If you look carefully at the key you will see that the
print-screen funciton is above some other function, sort of like upper-case
vs lower-case.

I prefer PaintShopPro (version 9) as my graphics program, although Irfanview
(free) is also good. Other programs comptible with XP include Paint.Net
(free), Xnview (free), and Adobe PhotShop ($$$). Other option, many free,
can be found at:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads37.html

As far as a program to paste into, I use often use Microsoft WORD. If I
want to edit the image, I use PaintShopPro. A free alternative to WORD is
WRITE, which is part of Open Office. Open Office includes other functions
also found in Microsoft Office:

http://www.openoffice.org/

Another thought: You mention that this is "an old DOS program". If so,
then you could run it from an XP command prompt. Assuming that it can
accept input from a file, as opposed to being purely interactive, then you
could re-direct its output to a file. For example:

PLOT.EXE < INPUT.TXT >OUTPUT.TXT

Finally, for graphing I normally use EXCEL, part of Microsoft Office,
provided my employeer, otherwise $$$. A free alternative to EXCEL is CALC,
part of Open Office. In either case simple graphs are fairly easy to do, if
you have a column of X's and a column of Y's. Both have large built-in help
files, and there are several books about both available. Further, a search
of the web will probably find some user-based assistance or forums.

"William B. Lurie" <billurie.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:OfPBaeGkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Several days ago, I asked some advice on how to do screen
> capture under XP and was referred to Screen Hunter and
> to Quick Screen Capture. I've tried both, and they work
> but not in my application.
>
> I'm running XP/SP2Also and I have an old DOS program which
> plots data and makes graphs. I run it from Windows Explorer,
> finding its .EXE program in its folder and executing it from
> there. The graph appears full screen, but I have tried what
> I think are all settings and combinations in Configuring
> Quick Screen Capture and also in Screen Hunter. They both
> work but I can't seem to grab the plot, which I believe may be
> a "Full Screen" plot. I never seem to capture it to that I can
> then copy it to a file, or Paste it into IrfanView..
>
> Some more advice specific to those capture programs would be
> welcome, and also some other programs to try.....
>
> Also, if anybody knows of a good program for making graphs,
> plots of a simple table of X-Y data, without all the advanced
> frills of curve fitting and regression and other advanced
> capabilities, please refer me to them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
> Several days ago, I asked some advice on how to do screen
> capture under XP and was referred to Screen Hunter and
> to Quick Screen Capture. I've tried both, and they work
> but not in my application.
>
> I'm running XP/SP2Also and I have an old DOS program which
> plots data and makes graphs. I run it from Windows Explorer,
> finding its .EXE program in its folder and executing it from
> there. The graph appears full screen, but I have tried what
> I think are all settings and combinations in Configuring
> Quick Screen Capture and also in Screen Hunter. They both
> work but I can't seem to grab the plot, which I believe may be
> a "Full Screen" plot. I never seem to capture it to that I can
> then copy it to a file, or Paste it into IrfanView..
>
> Some more advice specific to those capture programs would be
> welcome, and also some other programs to try.....
>
> Also, if anybody knows of a good program for making graphs,
> plots of a simple table of X-Y data, without all the advanced
> frills of curve fitting and regression and other advanced
> capabilities, please refer me to them.

Use IrfanView for everything you need: capture, paste, save, and print.
--
_ct_

ctowers wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> Several days ago, I asked some advice on how to do screen
>> capture under XP and was referred to Screen Hunter and
>> to Quick Screen Capture. I've tried both, and they work
>> but not in my application.
>>
>> I'm running XP/SP2Also and I have an old DOS program which
>> plots data and makes graphs. I run it from Windows Explorer,
>> finding its .EXE program in its folder and executing it from
>> there. The graph appears full screen, but I have tried what
>> I think are all settings and combinations in Configuring
>> Quick Screen Capture and also in Screen Hunter. They both
>> work but I can't seem to grab the plot, which I believe may be
>> a "Full Screen" plot. I never seem to capture it to that I can
>> then copy it to a file, or Paste it into IrfanView..
>>
>> Some more advice specific to those capture programs would be
>> welcome, and also some other programs to try.....
>>
>> Also, if anybody knows of a good program for making graphs,
>> plots of a simple table of X-Y data, without all the advanced
>> frills of curve fitting and regression and other advanced
>> capabilities, please refer me to them.
>
> Use IrfanView for everything you need: capture, paste, save, and print.
Sorry, CT, but my IrfanView doesn't do any capturing.
If I could get an image to Paste, Irfanview would be
happy to paste and save and print. My problem is how
to *capture* it.
WL