OEM XP Home won't work after new mb!

cuba wrote:

> This is why people can get pissed off at Microsofts' OEM/BIOS tagging
> (and eMachines). (And why people get annoyed at people who defend
> Microsoft.)

Let's be accurate about this. What an OEM does is whatever the
OEM wants...not Microsoft. If the OEM-builder's agreements allow
it to ship a different means of restoring the operating system
to the hard drive, then this requirement has been achieved. If
the end-user does not know how to recover this file or make an
image of the system, even with warnings and advice, then it is
the user's problem. And guess who would be the first to complain
if the OEM's system costs $10 more since it includes an XP cdrom?

<<snipped>>

Did you purchase your replacement motherboard from eMachine?
If not, then the motherboard does not have the necessary eMachine
BIOS that is required for the eMachine restore CD to work as designed.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User

Enjoy all the benefits of genuine Microsoft software:
http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/default.mspx

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"nicholson.jr" wrote:

| My Emachines mb went out so I bought an exact replacement. Now my
| computer will not boot up. I've done multiple restores, still the same
| error. My Dad has the same exact computer I've taken my hd and swapped
| it out with his computer and it works fine. Conclusion, problem is the
| OEM XP software doesn't like my new mb even though it is technically
| the same mb. How can I get this to work. I've been told I have to buy
| a new copy of Windows, but how can this be? I already own a copy of
| Windows, it came with my computer. I have only replaced a failed part.
| Does this happen when people upgrade too? Your not allowed to work on
| your own computer anymore?? I'm very frustrated with this, it's just
| wrong that every time a part fails on your computer it means Microsoft
| gets another $100. I cannot believe this is true, but all indications
| so far are starting to convince me. Please help!!
|

Ok I thought when I explained that everything worked fine in my dad's
sytem people would get that it is in fact a problem between the mb and
the Emachines BIOS. To answer the questions, on bootup I get a

SAFEMODE
SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING
SAFE MODE WITH COMMAND PROMPT

LAST CONFIGURATION THAT WORKED

START WINDOWS NORMALLY

The only thing that doesn't get me back to where I started is last
config that worked which gives me the error

\WINDOWS\Sytem32\config\WINDOWS

Emachines writes

Thank you for your e-mail. To further assist you on the issue with
your
replacement motherboard that displays an Intel screen instead of
eMachines screen, please be informed that your System Restore CD should
work with your replacement motherboard. Please be informed that Intel
screen appears instead of eMachines because Intel had manufactured
first
batch of motherboards only for eMachines that is why eMachines logo
appears on your screen before. What you have got as a replacement is
the same motherboard for your system, however, it is named after Intel
and not eMachines.

then they go on to tell me later after 3 restores

Thank you for your e-mail. I believed the hard drive is not failing.
The reason for this error is that the restore CD is customized and
proprietary with the eMachines original motherboard. I suggest to
purchase a retail version of the Operating System.

So telling me I was stupid for buying a Emachines or any other computer
at a big box store isn't helpful. I would say 90% of the people who
buy computers get them at big box stores and expect everything that
comes with the computer is theirs to use fairly.

THIS IS A MICROSOFT PROBLEM. It has to do with people trying to pirate
their OS and now 90% of their customers are caught in the middle, and
of course the little guy gets screwed and the pirates keep not paying.
This is the same as buying a new car changing out bad brakes at Midas
instead of the Dealer and now my car won't start. This is exactly what
is happening.

Now back to my original problem, if I "obtain" a retail version of
Windows XP home and get my sytem running can I in fact use my serial
#'s to register and update my computer legally or do I have to actually
shell out some more money to Microsoft and buy a full retail version
and then use the new serial #'s??

Are you using the restore disk? If so that is probably it.
You need to do a scratch load of the system



<nicholson.jr DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156284071.369118.253850@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> My Emachines mb went out so I bought an exact replacement. Now my
> computer will not boot up. I've done multiple restores, still the same
> error. My Dad has the same exact computer I've taken my hd and swapped
> it out with his computer and it works fine. Conclusion, problem is the
> OEM XP software doesn't like my new mb even though it is technically
> the same mb. How can I get this to work. I've been told I have to buy
> a new copy of Windows, but how can this be? I already own a copy of
> Windows, it came with my computer. I have only replaced a failed part.
> Does this happen when people upgrade too? Your not allowed to work on
> your own computer anymore?? I'm very frustrated with this, it's just
> wrong that every time a part fails on your computer it means Microsoft
> gets another $100. I cannot believe this is true, but all indications
> so far are starting to convince me. Please help!!
>

I will write Emachines again and see if they are more helpful.


nicholson.jr DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> Ok I thought when I explained that everything worked fine in my dad's
> sytem people would get that it is in fact a problem between the mb and
> the Emachines BIOS. To answer the questions, on bootup I get a
>
> SAFEMODE
> SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING
> SAFE MODE WITH COMMAND PROMPT
>
> LAST CONFIGURATION THAT WORKED
>
> START WINDOWS NORMALLY
>
> The only thing that doesn't get me back to where I started is last
> config that worked which gives me the error
>
> \WINDOWS\Sytem32\config\WINDOWS
>
> Emachines writes
>
> Thank you for your e-mail. To further assist you on the issue with
> your
> replacement motherboard that displays an Intel screen instead of
> eMachines screen, please be informed that your System Restore CD should
> work with your replacement motherboard. Please be informed that Intel
> screen appears instead of eMachines because Intel had manufactured
> first
> batch of motherboards only for eMachines that is why eMachines logo
> appears on your screen before. What you have got as a replacement is
> the same motherboard for your system, however, it is named after Intel
> and not eMachines.
>
> then they go on to tell me later after 3 restores
>
> Thank you for your e-mail. I believed the hard drive is not failing.
> The reason for this error is that the restore CD is customized and
> proprietary with the eMachines original motherboard. I suggest to
> purchase a retail version of the Operating System.
>
> So telling me I was stupid for buying a Emachines or any other computer
> at a big box store isn't helpful. I would say 90% of the people who
> buy computers get them at big box stores and expect everything that
> comes with the computer is theirs to use fairly.
>
> THIS IS A MICROSOFT PROBLEM. It has to do with people trying to pirate
> their OS and now 90% of their customers are caught in the middle, and
> of course the little guy gets screwed and the pirates keep not paying.
> This is the same as buying a new car changing out bad brakes at Midas
> instead of the Dealer and now my car won't start. This is exactly what
> is happening.
>
> Now back to my original problem, if I "obtain" a retail version of
> Windows XP home and get my sytem running can I in fact use my serial
> #'s to register and update my computer legally or do I have to actually
> shell out some more money to Microsoft and buy a full retail version
> and then use the new serial #'s??

"Will not Boot Up" - isn't descriptive enough to advise on what to
check. If you apply power does the CPU Fan spin ? do you see
any Power On Self Test (Post) screen. Does Windows XP begin
to start with it's flag screen ? or do you get a BSOD.
Whenever you change a motherboard before mounting in the case
always lay it (MB) on the Anti-Static bag it shipped in and connect
the power connector(s) from the PS. Connect only the keyboard &
Video.
Use a Phillips screwdriver to momentarily short the two front panel
staking pins marked "Pwr" on the motherboard. That should allow
you to test for POST and to enter BIOS setup and check settings.
Once you verify the board will power on - Then install it into the case.

"Gary" <gecoffin.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:esN3yejxGHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Are you using the restore disk? If so that is probably it.
> You need to do a scratch load of the system
>
>
>
> <nicholson.jr.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1156284071.369118.253850@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> My Emachines mb went out so I bought an exact replacement. Now my
>> computer will not boot up. I've done multiple restores, still the same
>> error. My Dad has the same exact computer I've taken my hd and swapped
>> it out with his computer and it works fine. Conclusion, problem is the
>> OEM XP software doesn't like my new mb even though it is technically
>> the same mb. How can I get this to work. I've been told I have to buy
>> a new copy of Windows, but how can this be? I already own a copy of
>> Windows, it came with my computer. I have only replaced a failed part.
>> Does this happen when people upgrade too? Your not allowed to work on
>> your own computer anymore?? I'm very frustrated with this, it's just
>> wrong that every time a part fails on your computer it means Microsoft
>> gets another $100. I cannot believe this is true, but all indications
>> so far are starting to convince me. Please help!!
>>
>
>