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user2702

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:32 am
Post subject: KB911567 & KB923694 SUCK
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KB911567= MS06-016 Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911567/en-us & KB923694=MS06-076
Cumulative security update for Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923694/en-us both remove the feature
that allows you to save unsent messages for use as message templates @
http://www.insideoe.com/

I installed KB911567 2 wks ago when the Last Review date was over 6
wks ago. Its history goes back at least to 12/06. How long does it
take MS to get their act straight?

Hence my new signature.

Just my 2˘ worth. Larry
----------------------------------------------------------------------

A working unsecure OS is infinitely better than non-working secure OS.
Just spent 1 week cleaning up the mess WUpdate made preventing
hypothetical security problems. http://microscum.com/comsense/
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Mark F.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:15 pm
Post subject: Re: KB911567 & KB923694 SUCK [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Larry(LJL269)" <NO.RemoveThis@EMAIL.COM> wrote in message
news:tad123p7t03b75sm88c1h5ac904b4jd7jr@4ax.com...
> KB911567= MS06-016 Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911567/en-us & KB923694=MS06-076
> Cumulative security update for Outlook Express:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923694/en-us both remove the feature
> that allows you to save unsent messages for use as message templates @
> http://www.insideoe.com/
>
> I installed KB911567 2 wks ago when the Last Review date was over 6
> wks ago. Its history goes back at least to 12/06. How long does it
> take MS to get their act straight?
>
> Hence my new signature.
>
> Just my 2˘ worth. Larry
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> A working unsecure OS is infinitely better than non-working secure OS.
> Just spent 1 week cleaning up the mess WUpdate made preventing
> hypothetical security problems. http://microscum.com/comsense/

Did you know that you can set the Automatic Updates to only alert you when
an update is available? You can also set Automatic Updates to only download
but not install. Then you can select "Custom" and pick which updates to
install on your system.

And now we're up to 4 ˘

Mark
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pabearmvp

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:16 pm
Post subject: Re: KB911567 & KB923694 SUCK [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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d00d! 911567 was released in Apr-06. 923694 was released in Dec-06,
supersedes 911567, and /fixes/ the "saved template" bug!

Should you choose not to keep your machine fully patched (i.e., running
outdated and much less-secure versions of OE, IE and Windows), the following
patch will fix your "saved template" problem:

A saved .eml file does not open in Compose mode in Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766/

NB: If you have 923694 installed, you do NOT need to install 918766.
--
OE-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

Larry(LJL269) wrote:
> KB911567= MS06-016 Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911567/en-us & KB923694=MS06-076
> Cumulative security update for Outlook Express:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923694/en-us both remove the feature
> that allows you to save unsent messages for use as message templates @
> http://www.insideoe.com/
>
> I installed KB911567 2 wks ago when the Last Review date was over 6
> wks ago. Its history goes back at least to 12/06. How long does it
> take MS to get their act straight?
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user2702

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:32 am
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:15:32 -0500, "Mark F." <reply2group RemoveThis @nospam.com>
wrote:

>Did you know that you can set the Automatic Updates to only alert you when
>an update is available? You can also set Automatic Updates to only download
>but not install. Then you can select "Custom" and pick which updates to
>install on your system.

Greetings & thank you for your response.

Yea I started at Custom then to filtering so I gave MS & guinea pigs
6-8 wks to catch errors. This wont help MS deliberately decreasing
functionality for hypothetical threats.

Thanks- bye- Larry


Any advice given is my attempt to show appreciation for all
the excellent help I've received here but I'm no MVP so it
may only apply NUGS (Normally, Usually, Generally, Sometimes Smile
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:48 am
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:16:45 -0400, "PA Bear" <PABearMVP.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
wrote:

Greetings & thank you for your response.

>d00d! 911567 was released in Apr-06. 923694 was released in Dec-06,
>supersedes 911567, and /fixes/ the "saved template" bug!

Never did 911567 & 923694 wasnt fixed when I installed 2 wks ago. Was
923694 improved 911567 , they seem to address same thing or 1 is
subset of the other.
>
>Should you choose not to keep your machine fully patched (i.e., running
>outdated and much less-secure versions of OE, IE and Windows), the following
>patch will fix your "saved template" problem:
I want MS to tell upfront, not halfway down 3rd page click , that
patch reduces functionality . Alot of work fixing Update messes given
I have 2nd XP with no updates after SP2 & BOTH get a trojan every 3
yrs which require much less work to fix than 3 yrs of WUpdates. Both
OS'a r imaged too.

Comments/suggestions/corrections appreciated.
Thanks- bye- Larry


Any advice given is my attempt to show appreciation for all
the excellent help I've received here but I'm no MVP so it
may only apply NUGS (Normally, Usually, Generally, Sometimes Smile
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pabearmvp

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:37 am
Post subject: Re: KB911567 & KB923694 SUCK [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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923694 and 911567 were Cumulative Updates for OE, so the former supersedes
(includes everything and addresses bugs in) the latter.

To enable the Hotfix that corrects the behavior, see the "Registry
Information" section of 918766, beginning with "To enable this hotfix, edit
the registry by following these steps".

To make this easier you can download this small registry file to make the
change for you. Just save the file to your desktop, right click on the file
and select Merge:
http://www.insideoe.com/download/feature_honor_xunsent_in_file.reg (Source:
http://www.insideoe.com/).
--
OE-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

Larry(LJL269) wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:16:45 -0400, "PA Bear" <PABearMVP.RemoveThis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Greetings & thank you for your response.
>
>> d00d! 911567 was released in Apr-06. 923694 was released in Dec-06,
>> supersedes 911567, and /fixes/ the "saved template" bug!
>
> Never did 911567 & 923694 wasnt fixed when I installed 2 wks ago. Was
> 923694 improved 911567 , they seem to address same thing or 1 is
> subset of the other.
>>
>> Should you choose not to keep your machine fully patched (i.e., running
>> outdated and much less-secure versions of OE, IE and Windows), the
>> following patch will fix your "saved template" problem:
> I want MS to tell upfront, not halfway down 3rd page click , that
> patch reduces functionality . Alot of work fixing Update messes given
> I have 2nd XP with no updates after SP2 & BOTH get a trojan every 3
> yrs which require much less work to fix than 3 yrs of WUpdates. Both
> OS'a r imaged too.
>
> Comments/suggestions/corrections appreciated.
> Thanks- bye- Larry
>
>
> Any advice given is my attempt to show appreciation for all
> the excellent help I've received here but I'm no MVP so it
> may only apply NUGS (Normally, Usually, Generally, Sometimes Smile
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user2702

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:05 am
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Greetings PA Bear & thank you for your response.

Sorry that my last post was screwed-up. I think my cat must have
walked over my Keyboard Smile

I solved problem by uninstalling KB911567 & may do same with other 7
updates since I get secutity warning when opening 'packages' in RTF
files that contain gif's I created. IMHO WUpdate is more damn trouble
than its worth!

http://tinyurl.com/34yuw6 in 7/03 was a similar problem when I 1st
advocation waiting 6 weeks for MS to correct errors in updates. I
guess that isnt long enuf even 4 yrs later.

Your help is MUCH appreciated tho. I do realise this is out of ur or
any MVP's control.

Thanks- bye- Larry


On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:37:36 -0400, "PA Bear" <PABearMVP RemoveThis @gmail.com>
wrote:

>923694 and 911567 were Cumulative Updates for OE, so the former supersedes
>(includes everything and addresses bugs in) the latter.
>
>To enable the Hotfix that corrects the behavior, see the "Registry
>Information" section of 918766, beginning with "To enable this hotfix, edit
>the registry by following these steps".
>
>To make this easier you can download this small registry file to make the
>change for you. Just save the file to your desktop, right click on the file
>and select Merge:
>http://www.insideoe.com/download/feature_honor_xunsent_in_file.reg (Source:
>http://www.insideoe.com/).

----POSTED @ XPmin mp experimental XP------------------------
Any advice given is my attempt to show appreciation for all
the excellent help I've received here but I'm no MVP so it
may only apply NUGS (Normally, Usually, Generally, Sometimes Smile
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