Failing to boot XP

btw: be sure that
you are using a
windows setup
cd to boot with.

the cd should have
a hologram inscribed
on its surface.



--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:u192dTwBJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>i would disconnect
> the dvd, temporarily
> so that you can have
> focus on the cd.
>
> as mentioned, booting
> with the windows cd
> via the cd reader is a
> critical process for
> your pc to do.
>
> also as mentioned, if
> you cannot boot from
> the cd, then reformatting
> the hd as per your idea,
> may be futile because
> there is a hurdle that
> your pc and your o.s.
> is encountering.
>
> for example, lets say
> you reformat and
> reinstall the o.s. on
> another pc.
>
> when you install the hd
> back into the pc, there
> will be a good chance that
> it will still stall.
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> "Geoff" <lvr181.RemoveThis@maybehotmail.com> wrote in message news:OaqBzFwBJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> and when I checked the boot order thru the BIOS, both the first and second boot were from the CD and the third from the hard
>> drive. I have a CD reader plus a DVD burner fitted.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Geoff" <lvr181.RemoveThis@maybehotmail.com> wrote in message news:%232xd5ivBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> cannot get the comp to read the Windows CD to get into Recovery console....
>>> just gets stuck in this endless loop of Windows Splash screen then wants to Start Windows normally, ad infinitum
>>> only time I can use a keystroke is during the initial boot process to get into the BIOS
>>>
>>>
>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uX%23h9LuBJHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> barring hardware issues,
>>>> you might try to use the
>>>> commands:
>>>>
>>>> fixboot
>>>> chkdsk
>>>> bootcfg /rebuild
>>>>
>>>> via the recovery
>>>> console.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>>>
>>>> "Geoff" <lvr181.RemoveThis@maybehotmail.com> wrote in message news:OwH8E7oBJHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Recently my computer failed to load Win XP Pro SP2 (seemingly a problem with a video card, BSOD referred to an ATI driver).
>>>>> Fitted another video card and received basically the same BSOD message this time referring to the new video card driver. The
>>>>> Windows splash screen would show, then the computer would go into a continous loop of wanting to Start Windows Normally (?)
>>>>> and would not allow me to make any other choices such as safe mode etc. I then went into the BIOS settings and change the
>>>>> first boot device to CD (the second being the hard drive), placed the XP Pro disc into the CD reader (with a view to doing a
>>>>> "Repair" installation) BUT the computer continued to go to the XP splash screen thence to the continual loop of wanting to
>>>>> Start Windows Normally, back to splash screen to Start Windows Normally, ad infinitum now ad nauseam! Whats happening?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

I have Western Digital diagnostic tool running at boot up and there was no
sign of machine (HD) running hot and the report always said that the HD was
in good condition.

Was not able to select Last Known Good Configuration (or any of the other
choices) the keyboard did not work during this stage and just kept going
into this endless loop as previously described. The keyboard worked when I
needed to change the boot sequence via the BIOS.

The original BSOD stated there was a video card driver problem and that the
system was in an endless loop because of a hardware or software problem.
After some minutes then computer bought up the Windows splash screen and
then went into this endless loop. After removing the video card, I noted
that some capacitors were swollen (thus I assumed the card was passed its
"useby" date), replaced the ATI card with an Nvidia card and got the same
BSOD this time referring to the Nvidia driver. And once again into this
"endless loop"!

I would have thought that the Nvidia card would run on the Windows drivers
to start with and then I would be able to install the updated drivers for
this card. No such luck getting the system to start.

I am now thinking there was a software corruption problem bought about by
constant restarting and the endless loop it got itself into. This was the
time (I thought) that I should try a "Repair" install, but how to do it if I
could not get the computer to boot via the CD drive. I changed the boot
devices via the BIOS so that both first and second were set at CD and the
third and last one at the hard drive. No luck in reading the CD. I placed
the CD in another machine and it read it ok (not a CD problem). I trid the
CD in the DVD burner, did not read. I disconnected the DVD burner, leaving
only the CD player connected and that seemed to make no difference at all.

Both the CD reader and the DVD burner were working before this BSOD suddenly
appeared. Maybe I should take a known good CD reader out of another machine
and try that.

And therein lays my dilema and my curiosity to learn about what has gone
wrong.

My thanks to you and John John and DB.".. >< ))) (etc) for your inputs and I
am still listening for any further suggestions

"nass" <nass DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4412D8BE-0ACB-4990-87C5-FB38318A0E89@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Geoff" wrote:
>
>> Recently my computer failed to load Win XP Pro SP2 (seemingly a problem
>> with
>> a video card, BSOD referred to an ATI driver). Fitted another video card
>> and
>> received basically the same BSOD message this time referring to the new
>> video card driver. The Windows splash screen would show, then the
>> computer
>> would go into a continous loop of wanting to Start Windows Normally (?)
>> and
>> would not allow me to make any other choices such as safe mode etc. I
>> then
>> went into the BIOS settings and change the first boot device to CD (the
>> second being the hard drive), placed the XP Pro disc into the CD reader
>> (with a view to doing a "Repair" installation) BUT the computer continued
>> to
>> go to the XP splash screen thence to the continual loop of wanting to
>> Start
>> Windows Normally, back to splash screen to Start Windows Normally, ad
>> infinitum now ad nauseam! Whats happening?
>
> Either your machine overheated or your HDD is going bad!
> Try to tets the health of your HDD by downloading the diagnostic tool from
> the HDD manufacturer website and run a test to see if it pass or there are
> bad sectors.
> What happen if you selected the last good known configuration that
> worked..does boot up okay?
> HTH
> nass
>

I hear what you are saying - thanks. But maybe I will have to give it a try
to reformat and load Windows in another machine, re-install in the
"troublesome" one and see if I can move on from there.

See also my reply to Nass.


" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote
in message news:u192dTwBJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>i would disconnect
> the dvd, temporarily
> so that you can have
> focus on the cd.
>
> as mentioned, booting
> with the windows cd
> via the cd reader is a
> critical process for
> your pc to do.
>
> also as mentioned, if
> you cannot boot from
> the cd, then reformatting
> the hd as per your idea,
> may be futile because
> there is a hurdle that
> your pc and your o.s.
> is encountering.
>
> for example, lets say
> you reformat and
> reinstall the o.s. on
> another pc.
>
> when you install the hd
> back into the pc, there
> will be a good chance that
> it will still stall.
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> "Geoff" <lvr181.DeleteThis@maybehotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OaqBzFwBJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> and when I checked the boot order thru the BIOS, both the first and
>> second boot were from the CD and the third from the hard drive. I have a
>> CD reader plus a DVD burner fitted.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Geoff" <lvr181.DeleteThis@maybehotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%232xd5ivBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> cannot get the comp to read the Windows CD to get into Recovery
>>> console....
>>> just gets stuck in this endless loop of Windows Splash screen then wants
>>> to Start Windows normally, ad infinitum
>>> only time I can use a keystroke is during the initial boot process to
>>> get into the BIOS
>>>
>>>
>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
>>> wrote in message news:uX%23h9LuBJHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> barring hardware issues,
>>>> you might try to use the
>>>> commands:
>>>>
>>>> fixboot
>>>> chkdsk
>>>> bootcfg /rebuild
>>>>
>>>> via the recovery
>>>> console.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>>>
>>>> "Geoff" <lvr181.DeleteThis@maybehotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OwH8E7oBJHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Recently my computer failed to load Win XP Pro SP2 (seemingly a
>>>>> problem with a video card, BSOD referred to an ATI driver). Fitted
>>>>> another video card and received basically the same BSOD message this
>>>>> time referring to the new video card driver. The Windows splash screen
>>>>> would show, then the computer would go into a continous loop of
>>>>> wanting to Start Windows Normally (?) and would not allow me to make
>>>>> any other choices such as safe mode etc. I then went into the BIOS
>>>>> settings and change the first boot device to CD (the second being the
>>>>> hard drive), placed the XP Pro disc into the CD reader (with a view to
>>>>> doing a "Repair" installation) BUT the computer continued to go to the
>>>>> XP splash screen thence to the continual loop of wanting to Start
>>>>> Windows Normally, back to splash screen to Start Windows Normally, ad
>>>>> infinitum now ad nauseam! Whats happening?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

I know it is a silly question Geoff, but are you hitting F10 to save
changes(boot order) and exit from bios?
Also, you might try F12 to change the Boot Order.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Geoff" wrote:

> I have Western Digital diagnostic tool running at boot up and there was no
> sign of machine (HD) running hot and the report always said that the HD was
> in good condition.
>
> Was not able to select Last Known Good Configuration (or any of the other
> choices) the keyboard did not work during this stage and just kept going
> into this endless loop as previously described. The keyboard worked when I
> needed to change the boot sequence via the BIOS.
>
> The original BSOD stated there was a video card driver problem and that the
> system was in an endless loop because of a hardware or software problem.
> After some minutes then computer bought up the Windows splash screen and
> then went into this endless loop. After removing the video card, I noted
> that some capacitors were swollen (thus I assumed the card was passed its
> "useby" date), replaced the ATI card with an Nvidia card and got the same
> BSOD this time referring to the Nvidia driver. And once again into this
> "endless loop"!
>
> I would have thought that the Nvidia card would run on the Windows drivers
> to start with and then I would be able to install the updated drivers for
> this card. No such luck getting the system to start.
>
> I am now thinking there was a software corruption problem bought about by
> constant restarting and the endless loop it got itself into. This was the
> time (I thought) that I should try a "Repair" install, but how to do it if I
> could not get the computer to boot via the CD drive. I changed the boot
> devices via the BIOS so that both first and second were set at CD and the
> third and last one at the hard drive. No luck in reading the CD. I placed
> the CD in another machine and it read it ok (not a CD problem). I trid the
> CD in the DVD burner, did not read. I disconnected the DVD burner, leaving
> only the CD player connected and that seemed to make no difference at all.
>
> Both the CD reader and the DVD burner were working before this BSOD suddenly
> appeared. Maybe I should take a known good CD reader out of another machine
> and try that.
>
> And therein lays my dilema and my curiosity to learn about what has gone
> wrong.
>
> My thanks to you and John John and DB.".. >< ))) (etc) for your inputs and I
> am still listening for any further suggestions
>
> "nass" <nass.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4412D8BE-0ACB-4990-87C5-FB38318A0E89@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "Geoff" wrote:
> >
> >> Recently my computer failed to load Win XP Pro SP2 (seemingly a problem
> >> with
> >> a video card, BSOD referred to an ATI driver). Fitted another video card
> >> and
> >> received basically the same BSOD message this time referring to the new
> >> video card driver. The Windows splash screen would show, then the
> >> computer
> >> would go into a continous loop of wanting to Start Windows Normally (?)
> >> and
> >> would not allow me to make any other choices such as safe mode etc. I
> >> then
> >> went into the BIOS settings and change the first boot device to CD (the
> >> second being the hard drive), placed the XP Pro disc into the CD reader
> >> (with a view to doing a "Repair" installation) BUT the computer continued
> >> to
> >> go to the XP splash screen thence to the continual loop of wanting to
> >> Start
> >> Windows Normally, back to splash screen to Start Windows Normally, ad
> >> infinitum now ad nauseam! Whats happening?
> >
> > Either your machine overheated or your HDD is going bad!
> > Try to tets the health of your HDD by downloading the diagnostic tool from
> > the HDD manufacturer website and run a test to see if it pass or there are
> > bad sectors.
> > What happen if you selected the last good known configuration that
> > worked..does boot up okay?
> > HTH
> > nass
> >
>
>
>

well, the best method
to find a needle in the
hay stack is to begin
the process of elimination.

for example, i would
remove any speciality
boards from the mobo
and bring the system
down to a basic computer.

so removing the added
video board, additional
usb boards, an extra ram
module, any usb devices
other than the kb, mouse
and monitor should sound
like a reasonable step for
you to take.

so by having one cd device
one hd, you can focus your
attention on getting these
two things to work.

as mentioned, i doubt that
you will overcome the
problem you have now by
erasing the hd on another
system.

it might very well be that
your mobo has kicked the
bucket.

however, if you want to
proceed with reformatting
the other drive and resinstalling
the o.s., then go ahead because
it would be something towards
resolving your issue as best you
can.

but keep in mind that when
you install the o.s. on the other
machine, that o.s. may configure
itself for that particular machine.

keep us aprised...
--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

"Geoff" <lvr181 DeleteThis @maybehotmail.com> wrote in message news:ems%23iBzBJHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have Western Digital diagnostic tool running at boot up and there was no sign of machine (HD) running hot and the report always
>said that the HD was in good condition.
>
> Was not able to select Last Known Good Configuration (or any of the other choices) the keyboard did not work during this stage and
> just kept going into this endless loop as previously described. The keyboard worked when I needed to change the boot sequence via
> the BIOS.
>
> The original BSOD stated there was a video card driver problem and that the system was in an endless loop because of a hardware or
> software problem. After some minutes then computer bought up the Windows splash screen and then went into this endless loop. After
> removing the video card, I noted that some capacitors were swollen (thus I assumed the card was passed its "useby" date), replaced
> the ATI card with an Nvidia card and got the same BSOD this time referring to the Nvidia driver. And once again into this "endless
> loop"!
>
> I would have thought that the Nvidia card would run on the Windows drivers to start with and then I would be able to install the
> updated drivers for this card. No such luck getting the system to start.
>
> I am now thinking there was a software corruption problem bought about by constant restarting and the endless loop it got itself
> into. This was the time (I thought) that I should try a "Repair" install, but how to do it if I could not get the computer to boot
> via the CD drive. I changed the boot devices via the BIOS so that both first and second were set at CD and the third and last one
> at the hard drive. No luck in reading the CD. I placed the CD in another machine and it read it ok (not a CD problem). I trid the
> CD in the DVD burner, did not read. I disconnected the DVD burner, leaving only the CD player connected and that seemed to make no
> difference at all.
>
> Both the CD reader and the DVD burner were working before this BSOD suddenly appeared. Maybe I should take a known good CD reader
> out of another machine and try that.
>
> And therein lays my dilema and my curiosity to learn about what has gone wrong.
>
> My thanks to you and John John and DB.".. >< ))) (etc) for your inputs and I am still listening for any further suggestions
>
> "nass" <nass DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4412D8BE-0ACB-4990-87C5-FB38318A0E89@microsoft.com...
>>
>>
>> "Geoff" wrote:
>>
>>> Recently my computer failed to load Win XP Pro SP2 (seemingly a problem with
>>> a video card, BSOD referred to an ATI driver). Fitted another video card and
>>> received basically the same BSOD message this time referring to the new
>>> video card driver. The Windows splash screen would show, then the computer
>>> would go into a continous loop of wanting to Start Windows Normally (?) and
>>> would not allow me to make any other choices such as safe mode etc. I then
>>> went into the BIOS settings and change the first boot device to CD (the
>>> second being the hard drive), placed the XP Pro disc into the CD reader
>>> (with a view to doing a "Repair" installation) BUT the computer continued to
>>> go to the XP splash screen thence to the continual loop of wanting to Start
>>> Windows Normally, back to splash screen to Start Windows Normally, ad
>>> infinitum now ad nauseam! Whats happening?
>>
>> Either your machine overheated or your HDD is going bad!
>> Try to tets the health of your HDD by downloading the diagnostic tool from
>> the HDD manufacturer website and run a test to see if it pass or there are
>> bad sectors.
>> What happen if you selected the last good known configuration that
>> worked..does boot up okay?
>> HTH
>> nass
>>
>
>

btw: you might also
consider re-installing
the mobo drivers that
are likely available
from it's homesite.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OstM5$4BJHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> well, the best method
> to find a needle in the
> hay stack is to begin
> the process of elimination.
>
> for example, i would
> remove any speciality
> boards from the mobo
> and bring the system
> down to a basic computer.
>
> so removing the added
> video board, additional
> usb boards, an extra ram
> module, any usb devices
> other than the kb, mouse
> and monitor should sound
> like a reasonable step for
> you to take.
>
> so by having one cd device
> one hd, you can focus your
> attention on getting these
> two things to work.
>
> as mentioned, i doubt that
> you will overcome the
> problem you have now by
> erasing the hd on another
> system.
>
> it might very well be that
> your mobo has kicked the
> bucket.
>
> however, if you want to
> proceed with reformatting
> the other drive and resinstalling
> the o.s., then go ahead because
> it would be something towards
> resolving your issue as best you
> can.
>
> but keep in mind that when
> you install the o.s. on the other
> machine, that o.s. may configure
> itself for that particular machine.
>
> keep us aprised...
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> "Geoff" <lvr181 DeleteThis @maybehotmail.com> wrote in message news:ems%23iBzBJHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I have Western Digital diagnostic tool running at boot up and there was no sign of machine (HD) running hot and the report always
>>said that the HD was in good condition.
>>
>> Was not able to select Last Known Good Configuration (or any of the other choices) the keyboard did not work during this stage
>> and just kept going into this endless loop as previously described. The keyboard worked when I needed to change the boot sequence
>> via the BIOS.
>>
>> The original BSOD stated there was a video card driver problem and that the system was in an endless loop because of a hardware
>> or software problem. After some minutes then computer bought up the Windows splash screen and then went into this endless loop.
>> After removing the video card, I noted that some capacitors were swollen (thus I assumed the card was passed its "useby" date),
>> replaced the ATI card with an Nvidia card and got the same BSOD this time referring to the Nvidia driver. And once again into
>> this "endless loop"!
>>
>> I would have thought that the Nvidia card would run on the Windows drivers to start with and then I would be able to install the
>> updated drivers for this card. No such luck getting the system to start.
>>
>> I am now thinking there was a software corruption problem bought about by constant restarting and the endless loop it got itself
>> into. This was the time (I thought) that I should try a "Repair" install, but how to do it if I could not get the computer to
>> boot via the CD drive. I changed the boot devices via the BIOS so that both first and second were set at CD and the third and
>> last one at the hard drive. No luck in reading the CD. I placed the CD in another machine and it read it ok (not a CD problem). I
>> trid the CD in the DVD burner, did not read. I disconnected the DVD burner, leaving only the CD player connected and that seemed
>> to make no difference at all.
>>
>> Both the CD reader and the DVD burner were working before this BSOD suddenly appeared. Maybe I should take a known good CD reader
>> out of another machine and try that.
>>
>> And therein lays my dilema and my curiosity to learn about what has gone wrong.
>>
>> My thanks to you and John John and DB.".. >< ))) (etc) for your inputs and I am still listening for any further suggestions
>>
>> "nass" <nass DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4412D8BE-0ACB-4990-87C5-FB38318A0E89@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Geoff" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Recently my computer failed to load Win XP Pro SP2 (seemingly a problem with
>>>> a video card, BSOD referred to an ATI driver). Fitted another video card and
>>>> received basically the same BSOD message this time referring to the new
>>>> video card driver. The Windows splash screen would show, then the computer
>>>> would go into a continous loop of wanting to Start Windows Normally (?) and
>>>> would not allow me to make any other choices such as safe mode etc. I then
>>>> went into the BIOS settings and change the first boot device to CD (the
>>>> second being the hard drive), placed the XP Pro disc into the CD reader
>>>> (with a view to doing a "Repair" installation) BUT the computer continued to
>>>> go to the XP splash screen thence to the continual loop of wanting to Start
>>>> Windows Normally, back to splash screen to Start Windows Normally, ad
>>>> infinitum now ad nauseam! Whats happening?
>>>
>>> Either your machine overheated or your HDD is going bad!
>>> Try to tets the health of your HDD by downloading the diagnostic tool from
>>> the HDD manufacturer website and run a test to see if it pass or there are
>>> bad sectors.
>>> What happen if you selected the last good known configuration that
>>> worked..does boot up okay?
>>> HTH
>>> nass
>>>
>>
>>
>