Dude, I'm Confused :-(

sgopus,

I tried your suggestion to no avail. What's weird is I see the drive specs
from the IDE Controller card as:

ST380011A ( This is the 80GB Master boot drive )
ST3750640A ( This is the 750GB Slave drive )

I get the drive size for 80GB but not for the 750GB drive. Maybe that's
because the 750GB drive isn't formatted. At any rate the specs for both
drives have identicle jumper settings for Master/Slave. The specs say remove
all jumpers for the slave drive which I did. The specs also say to add two
jumpers on the Master drive only if the slave drive is non ATA compatible,
but the slave is ATA compatible so that means on one jumper on the Master,
and none for the slave.

I have tried switching jumpers on both drives in everyway except to remove
them on both drives. I will try that next and post back here again.

-T



"sgopus" wrote:

> set your master drive (jumper wise) as master with slave present.
> I think you must have a slave jumper setting on the slave drive, not a good
> idea to have no jumpers set at all.
>
> "Traveler" wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have a SATA Motherboard with one SATA drive that I turned off in BIOS. I
> > then have a seperate IDE controller on the board with one ATA Seagate
> > Baracuda as the Master Boot drive. Windows recognizes both drives.
> >
> > Now here's where I have problems. I added a second unformatted ATA Seagate
> > drive as Slave on the IDE controller. Top drive is jumpered as Master and
> > lower drive with no jumpers as Slave.
> >
> > The Master ATA drive won't boot if the unformatted drive is attached. If I
> > remove the unformatted drive everything is fine. What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > -T
> >
> >

Are you using the original cable that came with the pc?

if so it may be a cable issue, missing some connectors, try a new 80
connector cable, even with the drive not being formatted, the Bios should see
and talk to it, also recognize the size of it, if it's not doing that, then
it's not able to talk to it, so it has to be either jumpers or cable issue.

"Traveler" wrote:

> sgopus,
>
> I tried your suggestion to no avail. What's weird is I see the drive specs
> from the IDE Controller card as:
>
> ST380011A ( This is the 80GB Master boot drive )
> ST3750640A ( This is the 750GB Slave drive )
>
> I get the drive size for 80GB but not for the 750GB drive. Maybe that's
> because the 750GB drive isn't formatted. At any rate the specs for both
> drives have identicle jumper settings for Master/Slave. The specs say remove
> all jumpers for the slave drive which I did. The specs also say to add two
> jumpers on the Master drive only if the slave drive is non ATA compatible,
> but the slave is ATA compatible so that means on one jumper on the Master,
> and none for the slave.
>
> I have tried switching jumpers on both drives in everyway except to remove
> them on both drives. I will try that next and post back here again.
>
> -T
>
>
>
> "sgopus" wrote:
>
> > set your master drive (jumper wise) as master with slave present.
> > I think you must have a slave jumper setting on the slave drive, not a good
> > idea to have no jumpers set at all.
> >
> > "Traveler" wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I have a SATA Motherboard with one SATA drive that I turned off in BIOS. I
> > > then have a seperate IDE controller on the board with one ATA Seagate
> > > Baracuda as the Master Boot drive. Windows recognizes both drives.
> > >
> > > Now here's where I have problems. I added a second unformatted ATA Seagate
> > > drive as Slave on the IDE controller. Top drive is jumpered as Master and
> > > lower drive with no jumpers as Slave.
> > >
> > > The Master ATA drive won't boot if the unformatted drive is attached. If I
> > > remove the unformatted drive everything is fine. What am I doing wrong?
> > >
> > > -T
> > >
> > >

sgopus,

Yea, that sounds plausible because I have had cables go bad after a year or
so of use. I'll try the drive at my friends house tomorrow because I only
have one data cable, the one that came with the computer. I'll post back
tomorrow with results.

Thanks a million though for all your help with this issue. I'll talk with
you again my friend.

-T

"sgopus" wrote:

> Are you using the original cable that came with the pc?
>
> if so it may be a cable issue, missing some connectors, try a new 80
> connector cable, even with the drive not being formatted, the Bios should see
> and talk to it, also recognize the size of it, if it's not doing that, then
> it's not able to talk to it, so it has to be either jumpers or cable issue.
>
> "Traveler" wrote:
>
> > sgopus,
> >
> > I tried your suggestion to no avail. What's weird is I see the drive specs
> > from the IDE Controller card as:
> >
> > ST380011A ( This is the 80GB Master boot drive )
> > ST3750640A ( This is the 750GB Slave drive )
> >
> > I get the drive size for 80GB but not for the 750GB drive. Maybe that's
> > because the 750GB drive isn't formatted. At any rate the specs for both
> > drives have identicle jumper settings for Master/Slave. The specs say remove
> > all jumpers for the slave drive which I did. The specs also say to add two
> > jumpers on the Master drive only if the slave drive is non ATA compatible,
> > but the slave is ATA compatible so that means on one jumper on the Master,
> > and none for the slave.
> >
> > I have tried switching jumpers on both drives in everyway except to remove
> > them on both drives. I will try that next and post back here again.
> >
> > -T
> >
> >
> >
> > "sgopus" wrote:
> >
> > > set your master drive (jumper wise) as master with slave present.
> > > I think you must have a slave jumper setting on the slave drive, not a good
> > > idea to have no jumpers set at all.
> > >
> > > "Traveler" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I have a SATA Motherboard with one SATA drive that I turned off in BIOS. I
> > > > then have a seperate IDE controller on the board with one ATA Seagate
> > > > Baracuda as the Master Boot drive. Windows recognizes both drives.
> > > >
> > > > Now here's where I have problems. I added a second unformatted ATA Seagate
> > > > drive as Slave on the IDE controller. Top drive is jumpered as Master and
> > > > lower drive with no jumpers as Slave.
> > > >
> > > > The Master ATA drive won't boot if the unformatted drive is attached. If I
> > > > remove the unformatted drive everything is fine. What am I doing wrong?
> > > >
> > > > -T
> > > >
> > > >

Don't see how having no jumpers is a bad idea, some drives require no
jumpers for the slave setting.

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"sgopus" <sgopus.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> set your master drive (jumper wise) as master with slave present.
> I think you must have a slave jumper setting on the slave drive, not a
> good
> idea to have no jumpers set at all.
>

Attach both drives, then go into BIOS setup and set the proper drive as the
bootable one, some BIOS's have a setting as to which drive the system should
attempt to boot from first, and some automatically change that setting when
a new drive is attached.

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"Traveler" <Traveler.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:46334A0B-30B5-4E05-9356-6B53781DF1F1@microsoft.com...
> Hello all,
>
> I have a SATA Motherboard with one SATA drive that I turned off in BIOS.
> I
> then have a seperate IDE controller on the board with one ATA Seagate
> Baracuda as the Master Boot drive. Windows recognizes both drives.
>
> Now here's where I have problems. I added a second unformatted ATA
> Seagate
> drive as Slave on the IDE controller. Top drive is jumpered as Master and
> lower drive with no jumpers as Slave.
>
> The Master ATA drive won't boot if the unformatted drive is attached. If
> I
> remove the unformatted drive everything is fine. What am I doing wrong?
>
> -T
>
>