can't see .swf files saved to hard drive

Mark,
Where are you trying to save the files? Vista has some interesting behaviors
when using certain locations that are protected by the operating system esp
when using legacy programs.

Michael

"mark" <mark.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:429E7ACB-32A6-404C-A518-F8FB7314CF62@microsoft.com...
> I have a program which enables me to save embedded flash files to my hard
> drive. I just got a lap top, with Vista installed, and for some reason I
> am
> unable to see swf files that I save. They *are* there, because if I try to
> re-save the same file to the same folder, I get the file already exists
> message.
>
> I never had this problem with XP, so I'm thinking it's something about
> Vista
> settings. I've already tried enabling show invisible files and checking
> "read
> only" in folder options. No help.
>
> Please advise, someone. Thanks.

I created a folder on my desktop for downloads. Like I said earlier, if I try
to resave the file to the same folder, it says file already exists there. It
may be there, but I sure can't see it.


"Michael Walraven" wrote:

> Mark,
> Where are you trying to save the files? Vista has some interesting behaviors
> when using certain locations that are protected by the operating system esp
> when using legacy programs.
>
> Michael
>
> "mark" <mark.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:429E7ACB-32A6-404C-A518-F8FB7314CF62@microsoft.com...
> > I have a program which enables me to save embedded flash files to my hard
> > drive. I just got a lap top, with Vista installed, and for some reason I
> > am
> > unable to see swf files that I save. They *are* there, because if I try to
> > re-save the same file to the same folder, I get the file already exists
> > message.
> >
> > I never had this problem with XP, so I'm thinking it's something about
> > Vista
> > settings. I've already tried enabling show invisible files and checking
> > "read
> > only" in folder options. No help.
> >
> > Please advise, someone. Thanks.
>

The 'desktop' is not one of the special places I was thinking of.

You say you enabled 'invisible files', in Vista there are two selections
that need to be made
Show Hidden files and folders, and Hide protected operating system files
(uncheck). Did you do both?

As an aside the 'read only' attribute does not apply to a folder, note that
the box is a filled in square not an empty or checked square as would be the
case with a 'file'.

It is also possible that the invisible file has ownership/permissions that
do not allow your account to see it. One of the attributes of a folder
security setting is 'list folder contents'. Right click on the folder and
select the security tab. For a folder you created on your desktop
you should have 'full control' which is all but 'special' checked. Also
examine the ownership tab and effective ownership (of yourself) from the
advanced button. The effective permissions should also be everything and the
owner should be yourself. These permissions should be applied to 'this
folder, subfolders, and files'.

Michael



"mark" <mark DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3EFC1562-E769-47E7-B625-6D9113BE4CF8@microsoft.com...
> I created a folder on my desktop for downloads. Like I said earlier, if I
> try
> to resave the file to the same folder, it says file already exists there.
> It
> may be there, but I sure can't see it.
>
>
> "Michael Walraven" wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>> Where are you trying to save the files? Vista has some interesting
>> behaviors
>> when using certain locations that are protected by the operating system
>> esp
>> when using legacy programs.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> "mark" <mark DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:429E7ACB-32A6-404C-A518-F8FB7314CF62@microsoft.com...
>> > I have a program which enables me to save embedded flash files to my
>> > hard
>> > drive. I just got a lap top, with Vista installed, and for some reason
>> > I
>> > am
>> > unable to see swf files that I save. They *are* there, because if I try
>> > to
>> > re-save the same file to the same folder, I get the file already exists
>> > message.
>> >
>> > I never had this problem with XP, so I'm thinking it's something about
>> > Vista
>> > settings. I've already tried enabling show invisible files and checking
>> > "read
>> > only" in folder options. No help.
>> >
>> > Please advise, someone. Thanks.
>>

Thanks for hanging in there with me, Michael. I did everything you suggested,
to no avail. The only thing you suggested that I'm unsure about is the
effective permissions thing... when I looked at them, the boxes are all
shaded grey. Nothing happens when I click on them. I am the only user of this
laptop, and I have no password set. I should have all permissions, no?

I tried re-saving the same swf file again, and I still get the file already
exists, overwrite? message. This is getting kinda frustrating. If you wanna
hang in there further, I'm all ears (or eyes as the case is).

Mark


"Michael Walraven" wrote:

> The 'desktop' is not one of the special places I was thinking of.
>
> You say you enabled 'invisible files', in Vista there are two selections
> that need to be made
> Show Hidden files and folders, and Hide protected operating system files
> (uncheck). Did you do both?
>
> As an aside the 'read only' attribute does not apply to a folder, note that
> the box is a filled in square not an empty or checked square as would be the
> case with a 'file'.
>
> It is also possible that the invisible file has ownership/permissions that
> do not allow your account to see it. One of the attributes of a folder
> security setting is 'list folder contents'. Right click on the folder and
> select the security tab. For a folder you created on your desktop
> you should have 'full control' which is all but 'special' checked. Also
> examine the ownership tab and effective ownership (of yourself) from the
> advanced button. The effective permissions should also be everything and the
> owner should be yourself. These permissions should be applied to 'this
> folder, subfolders, and files'.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> "mark" <mark.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3EFC1562-E769-47E7-B625-6D9113BE4CF8@microsoft.com...
> > I created a folder on my desktop for downloads. Like I said earlier, if I
> > try
> > to resave the file to the same folder, it says file already exists there.
> > It
> > may be there, but I sure can't see it.
> >
> >
> > "Michael Walraven" wrote:
> >
> >> Mark,
> >> Where are you trying to save the files? Vista has some interesting
> >> behaviors
> >> when using certain locations that are protected by the operating system
> >> esp
> >> when using legacy programs.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> "mark" <mark.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:429E7ACB-32A6-404C-A518-F8FB7314CF62@microsoft.com...
> >> > I have a program which enables me to save embedded flash files to my
> >> > hard
> >> > drive. I just got a lap top, with Vista installed, and for some reason
> >> > I
> >> > am
> >> > unable to see swf files that I save. They *are* there, because if I try
> >> > to
> >> > re-save the same file to the same folder, I get the file already exists
> >> > message.
> >> >
> >> > I never had this problem with XP, so I'm thinking it's something about
> >> > Vista
> >> > settings. I've already tried enabling show invisible files and checking
> >> > "read
> >> > only" in folder options. No help.
> >> >
> >> > Please advise, someone. Thanks.
> >>

Mark,

First recommendation: set a password for your account. Vista EXPECTS that
your account is secured with a password, if it is not then it will make
assumptions about access of objects which may not be what you want.

The boxes in effective permissions are grayed out until you select a Group
or user name.
This would be the account name for what you are trying to check here.
Click the Select button.
Enter the object name to select (account name), select OK. Now the check
boxes should be useful.

Also if you have followed any advise to disable the UAC (constant nattering
at you about need to be administrator etc.), re-enable the UAC. It may very
well be trying to tell you something you need to know.

Michael


"mark" <mark.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:893A3ADE-FDF7-4613-A58C-47C9D5A2A89A@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for hanging in there with me, Michael. I did everything you
> suggested,
> to no avail. The only thing you suggested that I'm unsure about is the
> effective permissions thing... when I looked at them, the boxes are all
> shaded grey. Nothing happens when I click on them. I am the only user of
> this
> laptop, and I have no password set. I should have all permissions, no?
>
> I tried re-saving the same swf file again, and I still get the file
> already
> exists, overwrite? message. This is getting kinda frustrating. If you
> wanna
> hang in there further, I'm all ears (or eyes as the case is).
>
> Mark
>
>
> "Michael Walraven" wrote:
>
>> The 'desktop' is not one of the special places I was thinking of.
>>
>> You say you enabled 'invisible files', in Vista there are two selections
>> that need to be made
>> Show Hidden files and folders, and Hide protected operating system files
>> (uncheck). Did you do both?
>>
>> As an aside the 'read only' attribute does not apply to a folder, note
>> that
>> the box is a filled in square not an empty or checked square as would be
>> the
>> case with a 'file'.
>>
>> It is also possible that the invisible file has ownership/permissions
>> that
>> do not allow your account to see it. One of the attributes of a folder
>> security setting is 'list folder contents'. Right click on the folder and
>> select the security tab. For a folder you created on your desktop
>> you should have 'full control' which is all but 'special' checked. Also
>> examine the ownership tab and effective ownership (of yourself) from the
>> advanced button. The effective permissions should also be everything and
>> the
>> owner should be yourself. These permissions should be applied to 'this
>> folder, subfolders, and files'.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> "mark" <mark.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3EFC1562-E769-47E7-B625-6D9113BE4CF8@microsoft.com...
>> > I created a folder on my desktop for downloads. Like I said earlier, if
>> > I
>> > try
>> > to resave the file to the same folder, it says file already exists
>> > there.
>> > It
>> > may be there, but I sure can't see it.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Michael Walraven" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mark,
>> >> Where are you trying to save the files? Vista has some interesting
>> >> behaviors
>> >> when using certain locations that are protected by the operating
>> >> system
>> >> esp
>> >> when using legacy programs.
>> >>
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >> "mark" <mark.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:429E7ACB-32A6-404C-A518-F8FB7314CF62@microsoft.com...
>> >> > I have a program which enables me to save embedded flash files to my
>> >> > hard
>> >> > drive. I just got a lap top, with Vista installed, and for some
>> >> > reason
>> >> > I
>> >> > am
>> >> > unable to see swf files that I save. They *are* there, because if I
>> >> > try
>> >> > to
>> >> > re-save the same file to the same folder, I get the file already
>> >> > exists
>> >> > message.
>> >> >
>> >> > I never had this problem with XP, so I'm thinking it's something
>> >> > about
>> >> > Vista
>> >> > settings. I've already tried enabling show invisible files and
>> >> > checking
>> >> > "read
>> >> > only" in folder options. No help.
>> >> >
>> >> > Please advise, someone. Thanks.
>> >>

I set up a password, but the below procedure totally lost me. I tried to do
it, but am obviously doing something wrong. I keep getting an error msg.
Perhaps I should contact Microsoft?

The boxes in effective permissions are grayed out until you select a Group
or user name.
This would be the account name for what you are trying to check here.
Click the Select button.
Enter the object name to select (account name), select OK. Now the check
boxes should be useful.

"Michael Walraven" wrote:

> Mark,
>
> First recommendation: set a password for your account. Vista EXPECTS that
> your account is secured with a password, if it is not then it will make
> assumptions about access of objects which may not be what you want.
>
> The boxes in effective permissions are grayed out until you select a Group
> or user name.
> This would be the account name for what you are trying to check here.
> Click the Select button.
> Enter the object name to select (account name), select OK. Now the check
> boxes should be useful.
>
> Also if you have followed any advise to disable the UAC (constant nattering
> at you about need to be administrator etc.), re-enable the UAC. It may very
> well be trying to tell you something you need to know.
>
> Michael
>
>
> "mark" <mark DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:893A3ADE-FDF7-4613-A58C-47C9D5A2A89A@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for hanging in there with me, Michael. I did everything you
> > suggested,
> > to no avail. The only thing you suggested that I'm unsure about is the
> > effective permissions thing... when I looked at them, the boxes are all
> > shaded grey. Nothing happens when I click on them. I am the only user of
> > this
> > laptop, and I have no password set. I should have all permissions, no?
> >
> > I tried re-saving the same swf file again, and I still get the file
> > already
> > exists, overwrite? message. This is getting kinda frustrating. If you
> > wanna
> > hang in there further, I'm all ears (or eyes as the case is).
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > "Michael Walraven" wrote:
> >
> >> The 'desktop' is not one of the special places I was thinking of.
> >>
> >> You say you enabled 'invisible files', in Vista there are two selections
> >> that need to be made
> >> Show Hidden files and folders, and Hide protected operating system files
> >> (uncheck). Did you do both?
> >>
> >> As an aside the 'read only' attribute does not apply to a folder, note
> >> that
> >> the box is a filled in square not an empty or checked square as would be
> >> the
> >> case with a 'file'.
> >>
> >> It is also possible that the invisible file has ownership/permissions
> >> that
> >> do not allow your account to see it. One of the attributes of a folder
> >> security setting is 'list folder contents'. Right click on the folder and
> >> select the security tab. For a folder you created on your desktop
> >> you should have 'full control' which is all but 'special' checked. Also
> >> examine the ownership tab and effective ownership (of yourself) from the
> >> advanced button. The effective permissions should also be everything and
> >> the
> >> owner should be yourself. These permissions should be applied to 'this
> >> folder, subfolders, and files'.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "mark" <mark DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3EFC1562-E769-47E7-B625-6D9113BE4CF8@microsoft.com...
> >> > I created a folder on my desktop for downloads. Like I said earlier, if
> >> > I
> >> > try
> >> > to resave the file to the same folder, it says file already exists
> >> > there.
> >> > It
> >> > may be there, but I sure can't see it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Michael Walraven" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Mark,
> >> >> Where are you trying to save the files? Vista has some interesting
> >> >> behaviors
> >> >> when using certain locations that are protected by the operating
> >> >> system
> >> >> esp
> >> >> when using legacy programs.
> >> >>
> >> >> Michael
> >> >>
> >> >> "mark" <mark DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:429E7ACB-32A6-404C-A518-F8FB7314CF62@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > I have a program which enables me to save embedded flash files to my
> >> >> > hard
> >> >> > drive. I just got a lap top, with Vista installed, and for some
> >> >> > reason
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > am
> >> >> > unable to see swf files that I save. They *are* there, because if I
> >> >> > try
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > re-save the same file to the same folder, I get the file already
> >> >> > exists
> >> >> > message.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I never had this problem with XP, so I'm thinking it's something
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > Vista
> >> >> > settings. I've already tried enabling show invisible files and
> >> >> > checking
> >> >> > "read
> >> >> > only" in folder options. No help.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Please advise, someone. Thanks.
> >> >>