(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:37 pm
Post subject: My loner Vista computer Add to elertz Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>vista>networking_sharing (more info?)
I have Vista x64 and I have read threads on this for weeks and can't fix
it. I have file sharing/network discovery on, private network, password
protection disabled, my shares set to everyone and everyone is on the
same workgroup.
My problem is that the x64 Vista computer will not see any of the XP
(x86 or x64) computers and they can't see it from the Network
Neighbourhood. However, if I type the IP address of the XP computers I
can access them. On the XP computers if I type the IP address I get an
error that it isn't accessable and I might not have permission.
However, if I type \\192.168.0.100\share or any of the other share names
I access it just fine. pinging works too by IP but not by name. If I
boot into the x86 install of have of Vista I can access XP computers
from Vista and the Vista from XP by name and everything without typing
any user names. The only differince between the two aside from x64 and
x86 is that x86 isn't patched past SP1 as I don't use it often.
Lastly after installing that XP patch I can see the x86 XP computers by
name from the network map feature on Vista, still can't access them by
name though...
(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:44 pm
Post subject: Re: My loner Vista computer Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Sounds like a firewall issue to me. Are you running any VPN clients? I
had a similar issue with the firewall built into Checkpoint's VPN
client. If not using VPN, you might also want to check that the Windows
Firewall settings and LAN configuration on the Vista box are the same
under x86 and x64 (especially check to see if the netBIOS over tcpip
setting is enabled on x86).
(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:09 pm
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using NOD32 with no extra firewall
other than windows one. I looked through again and every exception for
sharing is there. Even if I disable the firewall all together still
have the problem. Netbois is set to automatic on both, enabled or
disabled same result though. No VPN at all.
(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:21 pm
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On Tue, 6 May 2008 16:09:25 -0500, DarExc <guest.RemoveThis@unknown-email.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using NOD32 with no extra firewall
>other than windows one. I looked through again and every exception for
>sharing is there. Even if I disable the firewall all together still
>have the problem. Netbois is set to automatic on both, enabled or
>disabled same result though. No VPN at all.
Check NOD32 instructions, and look for anti-worm protection. AW will block
SMBs, just like a firewall. Disabling NOD32 won't disable the anti-worm
component.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:29 pm
Post subject: Re: My loner Vista computer Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hmmm, still sounds like a name resolution issue.
How about trying a simple test?
On the Vista machine open up a command window (Run->cmd), and issue the
following command at the prompt:
net use \\theIPAddressForXPMachine
(i.e. net use \\192.168.0.100)
Then try the same command using the name of the same XP machine:
i.e.
net use \\XpMachineName
(These are examples from my PC and reflect what you would want to see
here if everything was working):
C:\Users\Mike>net use \\192.168.1.20
The command completed successfully.
C:\Users\Mike>net use \\deathstar
The command completed successfully.
My guess is that your first command using i.p. will work, but the
second attempt using machine name will fail and return something like
"System error xx has occurred."
Please post back with any error codes you receive.
(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:15 am
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All these computers ARE on the same workgroup. eg mshome or workgroup etc
Try downgrading the Authentication level of the Vista LAN Manager as an
experiment
Start / Control Panel / Administrative tools / Local Security Policy / Local
Policies / Security Options /
Network security: LAN manager authentication level. Change this to Send LM &
NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated
If it makes no difference set it back again.
Dave
"mkprilliman" <guest DeleteThis @unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:1596e4cf641f9e1f38fd7eec307856aa@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Hmmm, still sounds like a name resolution issue.
>
> How about trying a simple test?
> On the Vista machine open up a command window (Run->cmd), and issue the
> following command at the prompt:
> net use \\theIPAddressForXPMachine
> (i.e. net use \\192.168.0.100)
>
> Then try the same command using the name of the same XP machine:
> i.e.
> net use \\XpMachineName
>
> (These are examples from my PC and reflect what you would want to see
> here if everything was working):
> C:\Users\Mike>net use \\192.168.1.20
> The command completed successfully.
>
> C:\Users\Mike>net use \\deathstar
> The command completed successfully.
>
> My guess is that your first command using i.p. will work, but the
> second attempt using machine name will fail and return something like
> "System error xx has occurred."
>
> Please post back with any error codes you receive.
>
>
> --
> mkprilliman
>
> "The Deathstar is fully operational."
>
> Antec Nine Hundred / Core 2 Quad Q6600 / MSI P6N Diamond / CoolerMaster
> RP Pro 1000 PSU / X-Fi 7.1 / 4x 1GB Corsair XMS2 PC-6400 / 2x MSI
> NX8600GTS-OC / 150GB Raptor (system) / 4 x 500GB HDD (RAID 5) / 1x 300GB
> HDD (beta partition) / Venus T4U (1TB capacity) / 1x Dell 2407WFP
> wrapped by 2x 20.1" FPs/ Logitech Z-5300 speakers
(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:15 am
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Read the bottom part about XP's home and small business wizaed to set up file
sharing
Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
Permissions/Share info is there as well.
If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall .(LAN allowed)
1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.
In Vista Network and Sharing:
Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)
Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)
File Sharing: ON
Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)
Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames, and
passwords (they can be different) on ALL computers in your Network). If you
have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista Computer.
Also, If you haven’t done so already, run XP’s Network Setup Wizard (in
Start >All Programs >Accessories >Communications), and tell the Wizard to
enable File and Printer Sharing.
Or > Start > Control Panel > Network Connections > Set up a Home or Small
Office Network.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
"Dave Griffiths" wrote:
> All these computers ARE on the same workgroup. eg mshome or workgroup etc
>
> Try downgrading the Authentication level of the Vista LAN Manager as an
> experiment
>
> Start / Control Panel / Administrative tools / Local Security Policy / Local
> Policies / Security Options /
>
> Network security: LAN manager authentication level. Change this to Send LM &
> NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated
>
> If it makes no difference set it back again.
>
> Dave
>
>
> "mkprilliman" <guest.TakeThisOut@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:1596e4cf641f9e1f38fd7eec307856aa@nntp-gateway.com...
> >
> > Hmmm, still sounds like a name resolution issue.
> >
> > How about trying a simple test?
> > On the Vista machine open up a command window (Run->cmd), and issue the
> > following command at the prompt:
> > net use \\theIPAddressForXPMachine
> > (i.e. net use \\192.168.0.100)
> >
> > Then try the same command using the name of the same XP machine:
> > i.e.
> > net use \\XpMachineName
> >
> > (These are examples from my PC and reflect what you would want to see
> > here if everything was working):
> > C:\Users\Mike>net use \\192.168.1.20
> > The command completed successfully.
> >
> > C:\Users\Mike>net use \\deathstar
> > The command completed successfully.
> >
> > My guess is that your first command using i.p. will work, but the
> > second attempt using machine name will fail and return something like
> > "System error xx has occurred."
> >
> > Please post back with any error codes you receive.
> >
> >
> > --
> > mkprilliman
> >
> > "The Deathstar is fully operational."
> >
> > Antec Nine Hundred / Core 2 Quad Q6600 / MSI P6N Diamond / CoolerMaster
> > RP Pro 1000 PSU / X-Fi 7.1 / 4x 1GB Corsair XMS2 PC-6400 / 2x MSI
> > NX8600GTS-OC / 150GB Raptor (system) / 4 x 500GB HDD (RAID 5) / 1x 300GB
> > HDD (beta partition) / Venus T4U (1TB capacity) / 1x Dell 2407WFP
> > wrapped by 2x 20.1" FPs/ Logitech Z-5300 speakers
>
>
(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:06 am
Post subject: Re: My loner Vista computer Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Wow, thanks for all the advice, I got a chance to try it all tonight,
mkprilliman, you are right, by IP it works and by name it says error 53
network path not found
Dave, it seem to make no difference with the network security.
Mick thanks but all those settings are already in place.
Chuck, I disabled the IMON anti worm protection as well with no luck.
I did however, notice my NetBIOS over TCP/IP was not set to enabled but
rather default. I set it to enabled on the Vista computer and my x86 XP
Laptop and the Vista one is still showing it as disabled. The help
through a link on the link you posted though doesn't seem to help me
out. Could this be my problem?
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