(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:03 pm
Post subject: Re: WMP 11 on Vista Biz x64 Appcrash [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>vista>music_pictures_video (more info?)
Yeah, My experience was pretty much the same. I had Installed Vista Biz
x64 and had added a network folder to monitor for my WMP library. I had
no other music added other than the included sample music. The original
setup was:
Asus P5N32E-SLI Plus
Pentium D 950 3.4
OCZ 2x2GB DDR2 800 SLI edition
Seagate 750 GB SATAII
I ordered parts for a Media Center PC, and when I got them I swapped
the Pentium D for an E8400 and booted up. I got no errors or prompts and
everything seemed like normal. Until I ran WMP for the first time. I
then got the AppCrash and it was reproduced every time I tried to open
WMP or Individualize through IE7. I have no other MS licensed software
on his machine, and Vista at that point was still unactivated because of
my HDD situation I had mentioned before. I assume that this could be
reproduced the same way over and over again. The KB article told me what
I needed to do, but I was unwilling to swap back to the original config,
since I had the machines already set up on opposite ends of the house.
That's about it, thanks for the support.
(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:06 pm
Post subject: Re: WMP 11 on Vista Biz x64 Appcrash [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
This will be a great thread for anyone hitting this problem to help
contribute to.
Follow-up questions:
* This was indeed the indiv001.key crash, right?
* Was there any user mode or kernel debugger attached?
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"Rob Redbeard" <RobRedbeard RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BF3BDF00-43ED-47EC-8140-887D8ACFD5DB@microsoft.com...
>I would love to help.
> Recreation of the WMP loadtime crash:
> System:
> Motherboard: GA-EX38-DS4 w/ latest Intel drivers
> Initial CPU: Core2Duo E6420
> OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
>
> To create the problem, I took the CPU out and put in a new one: C2D E8400.
>
> That's it. When Vista booted it detected the hardware change. Office
> applications prompted to activate office online again. However, starting
> WMP
> resulted in it loading for a brief second, then crashing due to the
> lincense
> system. I'm relatively tech savy, so I googled around and found the KB
> article with the instructions to delete the license cache. However, this
> should never have been necessary, that's a critical failure in the user
> experience department. Good luck and have fun swapping CPU's.
>
> I appreciate you guys trying to make music profitable to musicians without
> making that annoying and cumbersome to users. How about instead of a
> buried
> KB article about how to back up, delete, and restore your license cache;
> writing a small procedure that does this when the system detects a CPU
> change. Hope you can finish it before the new q9650's come out. > Rob
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>>
>> If you have a way to reliably reproduce this crash, I have The Right Guy
>> on
>> the DRM team who would loooooooooove to get that information from you.
>>
>> What exactly were you doing when you ran into that crash? How would he
>> semi-reliably manage to run into this same error?
>>
>> (I realize it might be crystal clear to you, but there seems to be some
>> missing data here so far that would be very helpful to have on the MS
>> side.)
>>
>> --
>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> --
>> "Rob Redbeard" <RobRedbeard RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:16C0FCC9-E5B6-43EB-8115-CC6A68EB5229@microsoft.com...
>> > The real problem lies in the fact that Vista and/or WMP 11 do not
>> > properly
>> > handle having the system CPU changed. This was not always such a
>> > common
>> > thing to do. However, the Socket 775 platform's ubiquity and the
>> > presence
>> > of
>> > more "horizontal upgrades" such as moving from Celery's to dual or quad
>> > cores
>> > has made the chance of a user upgrading their CPU much more likely.
>> > Vista
>> > knows when you change the CPU, it detects and installs new software (or
>> > just
>> > registry settings) for it. You need to write a patch that back's up,
>> > resets,
>> > the recovers users license cache's. I fixed one set last night with
>> > WMP
>> > only
>> > to find that my Media Center (x64) were in another location and needed
>> > to
>> > be
>> > separately deleted. This problem is severe (in that it blocks users
>> > from
>> > loading WMP at all) and should have been patched last year.
>> >
>> > Rob
>> >
>> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, you followed the trail right so far - the Indiv crash you're
>> >> hitting
>> >> is definitively a crash in the DRM component. That's still on your
>> >> system
>> >> in a bad state, that's why you're crashing.
>> >> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#indiv >> >> should fix you up, but since you're still crashing:
>> >> Find those Indiv files on your system and then follow the "reset the
>> >> DRM
>> >> cache" instructions making sure you include those Indiv folders on
>> >> your
>> >> system.
>> >>
>> >> If you notice ways the documentation here could be made better, let me
>> >> know.
>> >> This should fix you up though - I'm betting you just missed a folder.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Speaking for myself only.
>> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> rights.
>> >> --
>> >> "bad_the_ba" <guest RemoveThis @unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:f4210bfd1c2075c77a60a68ac30bc97f@nntp-gateway.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm hoping zachd sees this, since I have followed many of his
>> >> > instructions and nothing has worked. Everything on his site looks
>> >> > very
>> >> > helpful, but I think my situation may be a little more unique. I
>> >> > installed Vista x64 several months ago, and have had Media Player
>> >> > working fine with K-lite codec pack (being Vista Biz, there was no
>> >> > out
>> >> > of the box DVD playback). It has also worked fine with Nero OEM 7
>> >> > installed, but i do not think the nero burn plug in was ever
>> >> > installed
>> >> > or used by WMP. I have made several hardware changes recently,
>> >> > mainly
>> >> > because my motherboard was upgraded by ASUS's warranty department
>> >> > after
>> >> > sending in another last year. So I had Vista installed fresh with my
>> >> > new
>> >> > board, but old proc and memory. About 3 weeks ago, I replaced the
>> >> > processor, but since I have most of my music on another computer, I
>> >> > never really used WMP on the new setup. Today, I tried to set up my
>> >> > library on WMP11 on x64, and whenever I open WMP it crashes within
>> >> > seconds. The only way I can get it to stay open for any length of
>> >> > time
>> >> > is to open a preferences menu, or somehow get it to switch to a tab
>> >> > other than "library" quick enough. I browsed Google and various
>> >> > forums
>> >> > to get enough info to try several steps, and nothing yet has worked.
>> >> > I
>> >> > have uninstalled K-lite codecs and Nero. I have deleted the contents
>> >> > of
>> >> > the DRM folder. I have tried individualizing DRM again. I have
>> >> > deleted
>> >> > the Media Player folder under my profile which includes my library
>> >> > databases. With K-lite codecs reinstalled, I am able to play a DVD
>> >> > at
>> >> > times, but any time Media player stays on the library window for
>> >> > more
>> >> > tha na few seconds, it crashes. Here is the data I receive.
>> >> >
>> >> > Problem signature:
>> >> > Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
>> >> > Application Name: wmplayer.exe
>> >> > Application Version: 11.0.6001.7000
>> >> > Application Timestamp: 47919356
>> >> > Fault Module Name: Indiv01.key
>> >> > Fault Module Version: 11.0.6000.6324
>> >> > Fault Module Timestamp: 47e32748
>> >> > Exception Code: c0000005
>> >> > Exception Offset: 00111676
>> >> > OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.6
>> >> > Locale ID: 1033
>> >> > Additional Information 1: fd00
>> >> > Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
>> >> > Additional Information 3: fd00
>> >> > Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
>> >> >
>> >> > When I run the command found here 'WMP FAQ: A trouble-shooting guide
>> >> > for Windows Media Player problems.'
>> >> > (http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#indiv), I receive a similar crash
>> >> > with
>> >> > these details.
>> >> >
>> >> > Problem signature:
>> >> > Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
>> >> > Application Name: unregmp2.exe
>> >> > Application Version: 11.0.6001.7000
>> >> > Application Timestamp: 47919dc7
>> >> > Fault Module Name: Indiv01_64.key
>> >> > Fault Module Version: 11.0.6000.6324
>> >> > Fault Module Timestamp: 47e326c6
>> >> > Exception Code: 40000015
>> >> > Exception Offset: 00000000001230dd
>> >> > OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.6
>> >> > Locale ID: 1033
>> >> > Additional Information 1: 293a
>> >> > Additional Information 2: 64fd5719f41bbbf32ebe7651ae7fa3a6
>> >> > Additional Information 3: dc5b
>> >> > Additional Information 4: d1a695a3016dd30400e553e73a162323
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, opening the DRM update link in IE 7 results in a similar crash
>> >> > of
>> >> > IE with these results. 'Security component upgrade'
>> >> > (http://drmlicense.one.microsoft.com/Indivsite/en/indivit.asp?force=1)
>> >> >
>> >> > Problem signature:
>> >> > Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
>> >> > Application Name: iexplore.exe
>> >> > Application Version: 7.0.6001.18000
>> >> > Application Timestamp: 47918f11
>> >> > Fault Module Name: Indiv01.key
>> >> > Fault Module Version: 11.0.6000.6324
>> >> > Fault Module Timestamp: 47e32748
>> >> > Exception Code: c0000005
>> >> > Exception Offset: 0011b9e3
>> >> > OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.6
>> >> > Locale ID: 1033
>> >> > Additional Information 1: fd00
>> >> > Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
>> >> > Additional Information 3: fd00
>> >> > Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
>> >> >
>> >> > I am pretty confident this issue is related to changing processors
>> >> > in
>> >> > this computer, but the steps listed on MS's tech site as a
>> >> > workaround
>> >> > do
>> >> > not work, as deleting the DRM folder, with or without backing up my
>> >> > licenses, fails to correct the issue. I have not ripped anything
>> >> > into
>> >> > the library on this Vista x64 setup, but instead was trying to
>> >> > connect
>> >> > to shared media on another computer. This same scenario works
>> >> > flawlessly
>> >> > on a Vista Home Premium x86 computer on the same network. I will
>> >> > post
>> >> > this, then see if I can swap enough things around to temporarily go
>> >> > back
>> >> > to the old proc, and update the thread if needed.
>> >> > Todd V.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > bad_the_ba
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:12 pm
Post subject: Re: WMP 11 on Vista Biz x64 Appcrash [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Thank you - the second confirmation on the E8400 is very interesting.
If I'm reading this correctly: are you still hitting this crash these days?
That might potentially have some additional value as it might still be able
to be debugged in some fashion.
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Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"bad_the_ba" <guest.DeleteThis@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Yeah, My experience was pretty much the same. I had Installed Vista Biz
> x64 and had added a network folder to monitor for my WMP library. I had
> no other music added other than the included sample music. The original
> setup was:
> Asus P5N32E-SLI Plus
> Pentium D 950 3.4
> OCZ 2x2GB DDR2 800 SLI edition
> Seagate 750 GB SATAII
> I ordered parts for a Media Center PC, and when I got them I swapped
> the Pentium D for an E8400 and booted up. I got no errors or prompts and
> everything seemed like normal. Until I ran WMP for the first time. I
> then got the AppCrash and it was reproduced every time I tried to open
> WMP or Individualize through IE7. I have no other MS licensed software
> on his machine, and Vista at that point was still unactivated because of
> my HDD situation I had mentioned before. I assume that this could be
> reproduced the same way over and over again. The KB article told me what
> I needed to do, but I was unwilling to swap back to the original config,
> since I had the machines already set up on opposite ends of the house.
> That's about it, thanks for the support.
>
>
> --
> bad_the_ba
(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:26 pm
Post subject: Re: WMP 11 on Vista Biz x64 Appcrash [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
This may be tough to answer but:
* Was the system individualized / able to play DRM files before the system
upgrade?
* Had the player been used before the system upgrade?
Right now the dev and tester aren't getting any crashes when they:
* indiv / play the content
* swap CPU
* play the content
, so I'm wondering what they/I are missing here in terms of information.
Thanks,
-Zach
--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"bad_the_ba" <guest.TakeThisOut@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:771f972c3c6f445165b190ce9d8c38e4@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Yeah, My experience was pretty much the same. I had Installed Vista Biz
> x64 and had added a network folder to monitor for my WMP library. I had
> no other music added other than the included sample music. The original
> setup was:
> Asus P5N32E-SLI Plus
> Pentium D 950 3.4
> OCZ 2x2GB DDR2 800 SLI edition
> Seagate 750 GB SATAII
> I ordered parts for a Media Center PC, and when I got them I swapped
> the Pentium D for an E8400 and booted up. I got no errors or prompts and
> everything seemed like normal. Until I ran WMP for the first time. I
> then got the AppCrash and it was reproduced every time I tried to open
> WMP or Individualize through IE7. I have no other MS licensed software
> on his machine, and Vista at that point was still unactivated because of
> my HDD situation I had mentioned before. I assume that this could be
> reproduced the same way over and over again. The KB article told me what
> I needed to do, but I was unwilling to swap back to the original config,
> since I had the machines already set up on opposite ends of the house.
> That's about it, thanks for the support.
>
>
> --
> bad_the_ba
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