(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:28 am
Post subject: Re: Triple-booting - which first? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>os>linux>ubuntu, others (more info?)
"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam DeleteThis @unixhome.net> wrote in message
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> Only one issue with wubi... but I admit I have never run Ubuntu that way.
>
> Do you get the FULL performance benefit of disk and network read/writes or
> does the Vista drivers still cripple you?
It doesn't use windows to run linux at all, wubi just sets up the machine
for dual boot.
>
> For example, I can copy in files to vista at about 5mbs. In linux in a
> real partition I get 100mbs. That is 20 times faster!
So put the fixes on vista and get the full speed, its just as well I didn't
talk about old unfixed versions of linux or you would be up in arms. Do you
think you need to lie here like you do in the vista groups? Nobody here
really cares about vista.
>
> Question, is this hit not as bad in wubi? Is it worth the hit?
You don't know what wubi is, I suggest you read up on it as its a useful
program even if some people say there are no useful windows programs.
(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:31 pm
Post subject: Re: Triple-booting - which first? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>vista>general, others (more info?)
"Rick Rogers" wrote:
> XP/Vista/Linux
>
> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two.
> Window's version cannot load Linux. Alternatively you can use
> a third party bootloader that can handle any of them, then it
> won't matter which order you install them in.
You're confusing boot manager and loader. Loaders are
OS-specific. Boot managers needn't be OS-specific. The
Windows boot managers have been able to direct Linux booting
for years, and the Linux boot manager has long been able to
direct Windows loading. All they have to do is to invoke the
appropriate loader. For instance, to let Vista direct the loading
of Linux, read this:
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm
And then read the last sentence of the tutorial:
"If instead of GRUB you want Vista's bootloader to be in charge,
load up the Vista installation and install EasyBCD. Go to
"Manage Bootloader", then "Reinstall the Vista Bootloader",
an[d] GRUB is overwritten. You can then configure the Vista
bootloader to add Linux to the boot menu."
In essence, GRUB should be installed in the Linux root partition
instead of in the MBR, and the Vista boot manager invokes GRUB
there.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:55 pm
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"dennis@home" <dennis RemoveThis @killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam RemoveThis @unixhome.net> wrote in message
> news:_M5Wj.134364$rd2.105038@pd7urf3no...
>
>
>> Only one issue with wubi... but I admit I have never run Ubuntu that way.
>>
>> Do you get the FULL performance benefit of disk and network read/writes
>> or does the Vista drivers still cripple you?
>
> It doesn't use windows to run linux at all, wubi just sets up the machine
> for dual boot.
>
>>
>> For example, I can copy in files to vista at about 5mbs. In linux in a
>> real partition I get 100mbs. That is 20 times faster!
>
> So put the fixes on vista and get the full speed, its just as well I
> didn't talk about old unfixed versions of linux or you would be up in
> arms. Do you think you need to lie here like you do in the vista groups?
> Nobody here really cares about vista.
I have put fixes on it. I did get some performance improvements with one
applied just before SP1. But it was that much. SP1, didn't make much
difference. It is up to date including drivers. Still it sucks performance
wise to XP or Linux. I haven't had crashes people talk about, just
performance issues.
(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:23 pm
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"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam DeleteThis @unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>
> does the Vista drivers still cripple you?
>
> For example, I can copy in files to vista at about 5mbs.
(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:00 pm
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:11:33 -0700, Frank wrote:
> Canuck57 wrote:
>
>> "Trevor Best" <newsreply.DeleteThis@besty.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2008.05.12.22.22.48.24484@besty.org.uk...
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:31:11 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Rick Rogers" <rick.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:#3#t#sBtIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>>Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>>XP/Vista/Linux
>>>>>
>>>>>Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two.
>>>>>Window's version cannot load Linux.
>>>>
>>>>Wubi sets up windows loader to load linux or windows so it can boot
>>>>linux and it has been able to do so for years.
>>>
>>>Boots Linux from an ext3 partition or only a copy installed in wubi?
>>>
>>>--
>>>A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.
>>
>>
>> Only one issue with wubi... but I admit I have never run Ubuntu that
>> way.
>>
>> Do you get the FULL performance benefit of disk and network read/writes
>> or does the Vista drivers still cripple you?
>>
>> For example, I can copy in files to vista at about 5mbs. In linux in a
>> real partition I get 100mbs. That is 20 times faster!
>>
>> Question, is this hit not as bad in wubi? Is it worth the hit?
>>
>>
> Bullshit! Something you're famous for. Frank
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