(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:55 pm
Post subject: Re: I want complete, no hassel, control of My Computers! Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>vista>networking_sharing (more info?)
BRUCE : >>>>All of my computers are networked, (5 of them) and I am the only
person who
operates them.
<<<<
DONALD:>>>>Great!!! NOW you can look forward to ANYONE who has access to the
> Network entering your computer at any time. Hope you have fun.
<<<<
The guy just wanted a fix, Donald.
I'm sure once he has full access, he can then decide for himself how he
wants to control any permissions / security settings.
Let the hare see the fox first!
DecHex
"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross RemoveThis @invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:4gv624tlk2sh3toujkd8anuip9aq0do6au@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:37:46 +0100, "fuctifino"
> <725012b1014 RemoveThis @live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Bruce,
>>Just found this quick workaround.
>>
>>This definitely works to give you unrestricted access across the network.
>>You have to manually create this Everyone Permission.
>>
>>Make "Everyone" appear in the Security Tab, as follows:
>>
>>Right-click Computer > Manage > Storage > Disk Management then
>>right-click the drive graphic that you want to share, then > Properties >
>>Security Tab > Edit >Add
>>then type 'Everyone' (not the quotes) and below it select your
>>preferences,
>>e.g. Read or Full Control.
>>Now Apply, OK, etc. to finish.
>>
>>Just tried it and hey presto.
>>DecHex
>
> Great!!! NOW you can look forward to ANYONE who has access to the
> Network entering your computer at any time. Hope you have fun.
>
>>
>>"Bruce Feezel" <BruceFeezel RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:86FE5A7F-F0AD-4E56-89D9-D106BC5F2BBB@microsoft.com...
>>> As long as I've worked with Computers, (about 30 years) I've never had
>>> an
>>> Operating System that was so poorly designed that I can't do anything
>>> without
>>> having to jump through multiple hoops, in order to accomplish what I
>>> need
>>> to
>>> do.
>>>
>>> I want to know how to set Windows Vista up so that I can get some work
>>> done.
>>> All of my computers are networked, (5 of them) and I am the only person
>>> who
>>> operates them. I need to be able to access any file, or folder, from any
>>> computer, on the network. I need be able to read, write, delete, cut &
>>> paste,
>>> rename, or perform any other operation, on any file, or folder, from any
>>> computer, without getting "Access Denied" messages. I own these
>>> computers,
>>> Microsoft doesn't!
>>>
>>> As the only user, I am also the administrator, and yet I attempted for
>>> almost an hour tonight, to Rename a Folder, that I created, and I still
>>> have
>>> not been able to do that. When I go to the Help information, The
>>> Instructions
>>> are Wrong! There is no option on the "Action" Menu called "New Share,"
>>> and
>>> I
>>> shouldn't need to go through using a Command Line to accomplish a task
>>> that
>>> should be simple.
>>>
>>> Most times when I have needed to use the Help Functions, the
>>> instructions
>>> have steps in them that are not available to the user, because they are
>>> wrong. Evidently, nobody bothers to check them, and make sure the
>>> instructions are correct, before they are published. Consequently, The
>>> "Help"
>>> Is "No Help," At All!
>>>
>>> I also want to know how I can UPGRADE My Windows Vista, to Windows XP
>>> Professional. At least Windows XP is a fairly decent Operating System.
>>> Of
>>> course it has taken Microsoft since 2001 to get it to that point. Now,
>>> they
>>> want to do away with it, and make everyone change to Vista, which is the
>>> worst Operating System since MS-DOS 4.0/4.1, and Windows Millennium.
>>>
>>> I'm not the only professional who understands how bad Vista is. I read
>>> in
>>> the Computer Magazines how upset people are that Microsoft wants to quit
>>> supporting Windows XP. Microsoft needs to start paying more attention to
>>> what
>>> Computer Users Want, and Need. Windows Vista is so bad that Microsoft
>>> will
>>> never be able to fix everything that is wrong with it. They have
>>> completely
>>> forgotten one of the main Computer Axioms. Computer Software should
>>> always
>>> be
>>> "User Friendly!"
>>>
>>> Am I upset with Microsoft? You Bet I'm Upset, and I have every right to
>>> be.
>>> I should have been in bed hours ago, but I still haven't gotten my work
>>> done.
>>>
>>> Bruce Feezel
>>> brucef RemoveThis @clearwire.net
>>>
>>>
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
> ================================================
(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:55 pm
Post subject: Re: I want complete, no hassel, control of My Computers! Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
On Thu, 8 May 2008 23:55:01 +0100, "fuctifino"
<725012b1014 RemoveThis @live.co.uk> wrote:
>BRUCE : >>>>All of my computers are networked, (5 of them) and I am the only
>person who
>operates them.
><<<<
>
>DONALD:>>>>Great!!! NOW you can look forward to ANYONE who has access to the
>> Network entering your computer at any time. Hope you have fun.
><<<<
>
>The guy just wanted a fix, Donald.
Many such "fixes" fix nothing in the long run, friend.
It's better to fix the UNDERLYING cause.
Then he won't have to deal with it on a daily basis.
>I'm sure once he has full access, he can then decide for himself how he
>wants to control any permissions / security settings.
>
>Let the hare see the fox first!
Why wait till the last minute? Why not be PREPARED for the fox's entry
before he's even seen?
That way, it will be HARDER for the fox to get into the rabbit hutch,
and make off with the hare, when he DOES appear.
As it is, the "fix" quoted does NOTHING about "fixing" the problem. It
is more like putting a bandaid on a huge, sucking chest-wound, and
never adding the sutures necessary to CLOSE the wound, than "fixing"
the problem. The wound will just continue to pour out blood, until
there is none left.
Advice like that given is much like the advice Dell support (when you
do get it) is wont to give. It usually never fixes anything, and
almost always winds up costing the user more time, money, and his
peace-of-mind.
Find a SOLUTION, not a "fix". "Fixes" are a dime-a-dozen, and
everyone has one. But FEW have the SOLUTION and are willing to share
it, come what may.
>
>DecHex
>
>
>"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross RemoveThis @invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:4gv624tlk2sh3toujkd8anuip9aq0do6au@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:37:46 +0100, "fuctifino"
>> <725012b1014 RemoveThis @live.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Bruce,
>>>Just found this quick workaround.
>>>
>>>This definitely works to give you unrestricted access across the network.
>>>You have to manually create this Everyone Permission.
>>>
>>>Make "Everyone" appear in the Security Tab, as follows:
>>>
>>>Right-click Computer > Manage > Storage > Disk Management then
>>>right-click the drive graphic that you want to share, then > Properties >
>>>Security Tab > Edit >Add
>>>then type 'Everyone' (not the quotes) and below it select your
>>>preferences,
>>>e.g. Read or Full Control.
>>>Now Apply, OK, etc. to finish.
>>>
>>>Just tried it and hey presto.
>>>DecHex
>>
>> Great!!! NOW you can look forward to ANYONE who has access to the
>> Network entering your computer at any time. Hope you have fun.
>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce Feezel" <BruceFeezel RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>news:86FE5A7F-F0AD-4E56-89D9-D106BC5F2BBB@microsoft.com...
>>>> As long as I've worked with Computers, (about 30 years) I've never had
>>>> an
>>>> Operating System that was so poorly designed that I can't do anything
>>>> without
>>>> having to jump through multiple hoops, in order to accomplish what I
>>>> need
>>>> to
>>>> do.
>>>>
>>>> I want to know how to set Windows Vista up so that I can get some work
>>>> done.
>>>> All of my computers are networked, (5 of them) and I am the only person
>>>> who
>>>> operates them. I need to be able to access any file, or folder, from any
>>>> computer, on the network. I need be able to read, write, delete, cut &
>>>> paste,
>>>> rename, or perform any other operation, on any file, or folder, from any
>>>> computer, without getting "Access Denied" messages. I own these
>>>> computers,
>>>> Microsoft doesn't!
>>>>
>>>> As the only user, I am also the administrator, and yet I attempted for
>>>> almost an hour tonight, to Rename a Folder, that I created, and I still
>>>> have
>>>> not been able to do that. When I go to the Help information, The
>>>> Instructions
>>>> are Wrong! There is no option on the "Action" Menu called "New Share,"
>>>> and
>>>> I
>>>> shouldn't need to go through using a Command Line to accomplish a task
>>>> that
>>>> should be simple.
>>>>
>>>> Most times when I have needed to use the Help Functions, the
>>>> instructions
>>>> have steps in them that are not available to the user, because they are
>>>> wrong. Evidently, nobody bothers to check them, and make sure the
>>>> instructions are correct, before they are published. Consequently, The
>>>> "Help"
>>>> Is "No Help," At All!
>>>>
>>>> I also want to know how I can UPGRADE My Windows Vista, to Windows XP
>>>> Professional. At least Windows XP is a fairly decent Operating System.
>>>> Of
>>>> course it has taken Microsoft since 2001 to get it to that point. Now,
>>>> they
>>>> want to do away with it, and make everyone change to Vista, which is the
>>>> worst Operating System since MS-DOS 4.0/4.1, and Windows Millennium.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not the only professional who understands how bad Vista is. I read
>>>> in
>>>> the Computer Magazines how upset people are that Microsoft wants to quit
>>>> supporting Windows XP. Microsoft needs to start paying more attention to
>>>> what
>>>> Computer Users Want, and Need. Windows Vista is so bad that Microsoft
>>>> will
>>>> never be able to fix everything that is wrong with it. They have
>>>> completely
>>>> forgotten one of the main Computer Axioms. Computer Software should
>>>> always
>>>> be
>>>> "User Friendly!"
>>>>
>>>> Am I upset with Microsoft? You Bet I'm Upset, and I have every right to
>>>> be.
>>>> I should have been in bed hours ago, but I still haven't gotten my work
>>>> done.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Feezel
>>>> brucef RemoveThis @clearwire.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Donald L McDaniel
>> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
>> ================================================
Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the correct thread and article.
================================================
(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:12 am
Post subject: Re: I want complete, no hassel, control of My Computers! Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Listen "Friend"
My Hare has a cunning plan.
When he gets up on his back legs to make himself "seen" by the Fox,
It gives him ample time to bade a handsome retreat in a direction of his
choosing
and to live another day as it were by out-foxing the fox if you will.
The fox is therefore not afforded the element of surprise and has to work
harder
to catch his dinner.
DecHex
P.S. "seen by the fox" was a metaphor for the client being seen by the host
But you knew that didn't you?
"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross.RemoveThis@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:0c2724totd5cmck0l9iar9bcbqn2mghtkp@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 23:55:01 +0100, "fuctifino"
> <725012b1014.RemoveThis@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>BRUCE : >>>>All of my computers are networked, (5 of them) and I am the
>>only
>>person who
>>operates them.
>><<<<
>>
>>DONALD:>>>>Great!!! NOW you can look forward to ANYONE who has access to
>>the
>>> Network entering your computer at any time. Hope you have fun.
>><<<<
>>
>>The guy just wanted a fix, Donald.
>
> Many such "fixes" fix nothing in the long run, friend.
> It's better to fix the UNDERLYING cause.
>
> Then he won't have to deal with it on a daily basis.
>
>>I'm sure once he has full access, he can then decide for himself how he
>>wants to control any permissions / security settings.
>>
>>Let the hare see the fox first!
>
> Why wait till the last minute? Why not be PREPARED for the fox's entry
> before he's even seen?
>
> That way, it will be HARDER for the fox to get into the rabbit hutch,
> and make off with the hare, when he DOES appear.
>
> As it is, the "fix" quoted does NOTHING about "fixing" the problem. It
> is more like putting a bandaid on a huge, sucking chest-wound, and
> never adding the sutures necessary to CLOSE the wound, than "fixing"
> the problem. The wound will just continue to pour out blood, until
> there is none left.
>
> Advice like that given is much like the advice Dell support (when you
> do get it) is wont to give. It usually never fixes anything, and
> almost always winds up costing the user more time, money, and his
> peace-of-mind.
>
> Find a SOLUTION, not a "fix". "Fixes" are a dime-a-dozen, and
> everyone has one. But FEW have the SOLUTION and are willing to share
> it, come what may.
>
>>
>>DecHex
>>
>>
>>"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross.RemoveThis@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
>>news:4gv624tlk2sh3toujkd8anuip9aq0do6au@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:37:46 +0100, "fuctifino"
>>> <725012b1014.RemoveThis@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bruce,
>>>>Just found this quick workaround.
>>>>
>>>>This definitely works to give you unrestricted access across the
>>>>network.
>>>>You have to manually create this Everyone Permission.
>>>>
>>>>Make "Everyone" appear in the Security Tab, as follows:
>>>>
>>>>Right-click Computer > Manage > Storage > Disk Management then
>>>>right-click the drive graphic that you want to share, then > Properties
>>>> >
>>>>Security Tab > Edit >Add
>>>>then type 'Everyone' (not the quotes) and below it select your
>>>>preferences,
>>>>e.g. Read or Full Control.
>>>>Now Apply, OK, etc. to finish.
>>>>
>>>>Just tried it and hey presto.
>>>>DecHex
>>>
>>> Great!!! NOW you can look forward to ANYONE who has access to the
>>> Network entering your computer at any time. Hope you have fun.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bruce Feezel" <BruceFeezel.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:86FE5A7F-F0AD-4E56-89D9-D106BC5F2BBB@microsoft.com...
>>>>> As long as I've worked with Computers, (about 30 years) I've never had
>>>>> an
>>>>> Operating System that was so poorly designed that I can't do anything
>>>>> without
>>>>> having to jump through multiple hoops, in order to accomplish what I
>>>>> need
>>>>> to
>>>>> do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to know how to set Windows Vista up so that I can get some work
>>>>> done.
>>>>> All of my computers are networked, (5 of them) and I am the only
>>>>> person
>>>>> who
>>>>> operates them. I need to be able to access any file, or folder, from
>>>>> any
>>>>> computer, on the network. I need be able to read, write, delete, cut &
>>>>> paste,
>>>>> rename, or perform any other operation, on any file, or folder, from
>>>>> any
>>>>> computer, without getting "Access Denied" messages. I own these
>>>>> computers,
>>>>> Microsoft doesn't!
>>>>>
>>>>> As the only user, I am also the administrator, and yet I attempted for
>>>>> almost an hour tonight, to Rename a Folder, that I created, and I
>>>>> still
>>>>> have
>>>>> not been able to do that. When I go to the Help information, The
>>>>> Instructions
>>>>> are Wrong! There is no option on the "Action" Menu called "New Share,"
>>>>> and
>>>>> I
>>>>> shouldn't need to go through using a Command Line to accomplish a task
>>>>> that
>>>>> should be simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most times when I have needed to use the Help Functions, the
>>>>> instructions
>>>>> have steps in them that are not available to the user, because they
>>>>> are
>>>>> wrong. Evidently, nobody bothers to check them, and make sure the
>>>>> instructions are correct, before they are published. Consequently, The
>>>>> "Help"
>>>>> Is "No Help," At All!
>>>>>
>>>>> I also want to know how I can UPGRADE My Windows Vista, to Windows XP
>>>>> Professional. At least Windows XP is a fairly decent Operating System.
>>>>> Of
>>>>> course it has taken Microsoft since 2001 to get it to that point. Now,
>>>>> they
>>>>> want to do away with it, and make everyone change to Vista, which is
>>>>> the
>>>>> worst Operating System since MS-DOS 4.0/4.1, and Windows Millennium.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not the only professional who understands how bad Vista is. I read
>>>>> in
>>>>> the Computer Magazines how upset people are that Microsoft wants to
>>>>> quit
>>>>> supporting Windows XP. Microsoft needs to start paying more attention
>>>>> to
>>>>> what
>>>>> Computer Users Want, and Need. Windows Vista is so bad that Microsoft
>>>>> will
>>>>> never be able to fix everything that is wrong with it. They have
>>>>> completely
>>>>> forgotten one of the main Computer Axioms. Computer Software should
>>>>> always
>>>>> be
>>>>> "User Friendly!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I upset with Microsoft? You Bet I'm Upset, and I have every right
>>>>> to
>>>>> be.
>>>>> I should have been in bed hours ago, but I still haven't gotten my
>>>>> work
>>>>> done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Feezel
>>>>> brucef.RemoveThis@clearwire.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Donald L McDaniel
>>> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
>>> ================================================
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
> ================================================
(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:14 pm
Post subject: Re: I want complete, no hassel, control of My Computers! Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
So does anyone have a solution????
I'm having the same problem. I have a desktop XP, a new Dell Vista laptop
and a new HP Vista laptop (new being within the past 9 months or less). I'm
computer savvy without being quite to the level of geek (to which I would
love to aspire) and have been hastling with my HP for about a week now. They
were all sharing away with no problem until I started up the HP one day and
then, voila, I could only access the public folder. So just to see what it
would do, I opened the sharing access up completely to everyone as Donald so
vehemently disapproves of (and rightly so, I suppose). This, however,
yielded a more difficult situation - though I can get as far as the computer
itself and to see the folders, I am now fully denied access to all folders.
Luckily, I can still access the Dell and XP from the HP freely so I'm not
totally dead in the water.
On the lookout for that fox!
kb
"fuctifino" <725012b1014 RemoveThis @live.co.uk> wrote in message
news:03761880-EB5A-46BC-8BD3-D28FE5B0977D@microsoft.com...
> Listen "Friend"
> My Hare has a cunning plan.
> When he gets up on his back legs to make himself "seen" by the Fox,
> It gives him ample time to bade a handsome retreat in a direction of his
> choosing
> and to live another day as it were by out-foxing the fox if you will.
> The fox is therefore not afforded the element of surprise and has to work
> harder
> to catch his dinner.
>
> DecHex
>
> P.S. "seen by the fox" was a metaphor for the client being seen by the
> host
> But you knew that didn't you?
>
>
> "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross RemoveThis @invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:0c2724totd5cmck0l9iar9bcbqn2mghtkp@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 23:55:01 +0100, "fuctifino"
>> <725012b1014 RemoveThis @live.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>BRUCE : >>>>All of my computers are networked, (5 of them) and I am the
>>>only
>>>person who
>>>operates them.
>>><<<<
>>>
>>>DONALD:>>>>Great!!! NOW you can look forward to ANYONE who has access to
>>>the
>>>> Network entering your computer at any time. Hope you have fun.
>>><<<<
>>>
>>>The guy just wanted a fix, Donald.
>>
>> Many such "fixes" fix nothing in the long run, friend.
>> It's better to fix the UNDERLYING cause.
>>
>> Then he won't have to deal with it on a daily basis.
>>
>>>I'm sure once he has full access, he can then decide for himself how he
>>>wants to control any permissions / security settings.
>>>
>>>Let the hare see the fox first!
>>
>> Why wait till the last minute? Why not be PREPARED for the fox's entry
>> before he's even seen?
>>
>> That way, it will be HARDER for the fox to get into the rabbit hutch,
>> and make off with the hare, when he DOES appear.
>>
>> As it is, the "fix" quoted does NOTHING about "fixing" the problem. It
>> is more like putting a bandaid on a huge, sucking chest-wound, and
>> never adding the sutures necessary to CLOSE the wound, than "fixing"
>> the problem. The wound will just continue to pour out blood, until
>> there is none left.
>>
>> Advice like that given is much like the advice Dell support (when you
>> do get it) is wont to give. It usually never fixes anything, and
>> almost always winds up costing the user more time, money, and his
>> peace-of-mind.
>>
>> Find a SOLUTION, not a "fix". "Fixes" are a dime-a-dozen, and
>> everyone has one. But FEW have the SOLUTION and are willing to share
>> it, come what may.
>>
>>>
>>>DecHex
>>>
>>>
>>>"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross RemoveThis @invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4gv624tlk2sh3toujkd8anuip9aq0do6au@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:37:46 +0100, "fuctifino"
>>>> <725012b1014 RemoveThis @live.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Bruce,
>>>>>Just found this quick workaround.
>>>>>
>>>>>This definitely works to give you unrestricted access across the
>>>>>network.
>>>>>You have to manually create this Everyone Permission.
>>>>>
>>>>>Make "Everyone" appear in the Security Tab, as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>Right-click Computer > Manage > Storage > Disk Management then
>>>>>right-click the drive graphic that you want to share, then >
>>>>>Properties
>>>>> >
>>>>>Security Tab > Edit >Add
>>>>>then type 'Everyone' (not the quotes) and below it select your
>>>>>preferences,
>>>>>e.g. Read or Full Control.
>>>>>Now Apply, OK, etc. to finish.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just tried it and hey presto.
>>>>>DecHex
>>>>
>>>> Great!!! NOW you can look forward to ANYONE who has access to the
>>>> Network entering your computer at any time. Hope you have fun.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Bruce Feezel" <BruceFeezel RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:86FE5A7F-F0AD-4E56-89D9-D106BC5F2BBB@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> As long as I've worked with Computers, (about 30 years) I've never
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> Operating System that was so poorly designed that I can't do anything
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> having to jump through multiple hoops, in order to accomplish what I
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to know how to set Windows Vista up so that I can get some
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> done.
>>>>>> All of my computers are networked, (5 of them) and I am the only
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> operates them. I need to be able to access any file, or folder, from
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> computer, on the network. I need be able to read, write, delete, cut
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> paste,
>>>>>> rename, or perform any other operation, on any file, or folder, from
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> computer, without getting "Access Denied" messages. I own these
>>>>>> computers,
>>>>>> Microsoft doesn't!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the only user, I am also the administrator, and yet I attempted
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> almost an hour tonight, to Rename a Folder, that I created, and I
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> not been able to do that. When I go to the Help information, The
>>>>>> Instructions
>>>>>> are Wrong! There is no option on the "Action" Menu called "New
>>>>>> Share,"
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> shouldn't need to go through using a Command Line to accomplish a
>>>>>> task
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> should be simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most times when I have needed to use the Help Functions, the
>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>> have steps in them that are not available to the user, because they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> wrong. Evidently, nobody bothers to check them, and make sure the
>>>>>> instructions are correct, before they are published. Consequently,
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> "Help"
>>>>>> Is "No Help," At All!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also want to know how I can UPGRADE My Windows Vista, to Windows XP
>>>>>> Professional. At least Windows XP is a fairly decent Operating
>>>>>> System.
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> course it has taken Microsoft since 2001 to get it to that point.
>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> want to do away with it, and make everyone change to Vista, which is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> worst Operating System since MS-DOS 4.0/4.1, and Windows Millennium.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not the only professional who understands how bad Vista is. I
>>>>>> read
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the Computer Magazines how upset people are that Microsoft wants to
>>>>>> quit
>>>>>> supporting Windows XP. Microsoft needs to start paying more attention
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> Computer Users Want, and Need. Windows Vista is so bad that Microsoft
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> never be able to fix everything that is wrong with it. They have
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> forgotten one of the main Computer Axioms. Computer Software should
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> "User Friendly!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I upset with Microsoft? You Bet I'm Upset, and I have every right
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be.
>>>>>> I should have been in bed hours ago, but I still haven't gotten my
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce Feezel
>>>>>> brucef RemoveThis @clearwire.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Donald L McDaniel
>>>> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
>>>> ================================================
>>
>> Donald L McDaniel
>> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
>> ================================================
>
(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:48 am
Post subject: Re: I want complete, no hassel, control of My Computers! Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
On Fri, 9 May 2008 20:14:35 -0700, "KBrokaw" <k_brokaw.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>So does anyone have a solution????
>
>I'm having the same problem. I have a desktop XP, a new Dell Vista laptop
>and a new HP Vista laptop (new being within the past 9 months or less). I'm
>computer savvy without being quite to the level of geek (to which I would
>love to aspire) and have been hastling with my HP for about a week now. They
>were all sharing away with no problem until I started up the HP one day and
>then, voila, I could only access the public folder. So just to see what it
>would do, I opened the sharing access up completely to everyone as Donald so
>vehemently disapproves of (and rightly so, I suppose). This, however,
>yielded a more difficult situation - though I can get as far as the computer
>itself and to see the folders, I am now fully denied access to all folders.
>Luckily, I can still access the Dell and XP from the HP freely so I'm not
>totally dead in the water.
>
>On the lookout for that fox!
>kb
There are solutions. Regardless of what you may think from reading here, Vista
is not a disaster. There are millions of computers running Vista all over the
world, and many communicating with other computers. Some basic understanding
about networking, and file sharing, is necessary sometimes.
Assuming that you do not have lower level problems, look at authentication
between your computers. Are you using Guest, or non-Guest, authentication?
Guest authentication, by default, has much less access to sensitive and personal
folders. Is it XP Home or Pro?
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:40 am
Post subject: RE: I want complete, no hassel, control of My Computers! Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Amen! I have four computers (yes, Gordon, even normal people have more than
one!) and keeping my main Vista computer and my main XP computer connected is
a joke. Every time either of them goes to sleep, Vista can't see XP, and
it's a WIRED connection with Ethernet. Since the SP1 update, Vista now drops
the printer on the XP computer constantly and I have to reboot. I seem to
spend a lot of time each day reconnecting and readjusting everything.
Thanks, Bruce, for saying what I've known since I started using Vista. It
is NOT network friendly, and it's been a real learning experience to do what
I need to do with computers.
Marjie
"Bruce Feezel" wrote:
> As long as I've worked with Computers, (about 30 years) I've never had an
> Operating System that was so poorly designed that I can't do anything without
> having to jump through multiple hoops, in order to accomplish what I need to
> do.
>
> I want to know how to set Windows Vista up so that I can get some work done.
> All of my computers are networked, (5 of them) and I am the only person who
> operates them. I need to be able to access any file, or folder, from any
> computer, on the network. I need be able to read, write, delete, cut & paste,
> rename, or perform any other operation, on any file, or folder, from any
> computer, without getting "Access Denied" messages. I own these computers,
> Microsoft doesn't!
>
> As the only user, I am also the administrator, and yet I attempted for
> almost an hour tonight, to Rename a Folder, that I created, and I still have
> not been able to do that. When I go to the Help information, The Instructions
> are Wrong! There is no option on the "Action" Menu called "New Share," and I
> shouldn't need to go through using a Command Line to accomplish a task that
> should be simple.
>
> Most times when I have needed to use the Help Functions, the instructions
> have steps in them that are not available to the user, because they are
> wrong. Evidently, nobody bothers to check them, and make sure the
> instructions are correct, before they are published. Consequently, The "Help"
> Is "No Help," At All!
>
> I also want to know how I can UPGRADE My Windows Vista, to Windows XP
> Professional. At least Windows XP is a fairly decent Operating System. Of
> course it has taken Microsoft since 2001 to get it to that point. Now, they
> want to do away with it, and make everyone change to Vista, which is the
> worst Operating System since MS-DOS 4.0/4.1, and Windows Millennium.
>
> I'm not the only professional who understands how bad Vista is. I read in
> the Computer Magazines how upset people are that Microsoft wants to quit
> supporting Windows XP. Microsoft needs to start paying more attention to what
> Computer Users Want, and Need. Windows Vista is so bad that Microsoft will
> never be able to fix everything that is wrong with it. They have completely
> forgotten one of the main Computer Axioms. Computer Software should always be
> "User Friendly!"
>
> Am I upset with Microsoft? You Bet I'm Upset, and I have every right to be.
> I should have been in bed hours ago, but I still haven't gotten my work done.
>
> Bruce Feezel
> brucef.RemoveThis@clearwire.net
>
>
(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:56 pm
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"Marjie" <Marjie.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:54D0A37E-5380-4572-A211-9A0B441CAEF1@microsoft.com...
>
> Thanks, Bruce, for saying what I've known since I started using Vista. It
> is NOT network friendly,
Interestingly I also have an XP Pro SP3 machine, and when I bought my new
Vista Home Premium laptop, the network, err, just worked. I had to do
NOTHING at all to share files and folders between the two machines both
ways.
(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:56 pm
Post subject: Re: I want complete, no hassel, control of My Computers! Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Gordon - I'm with you - I currently have networked , wired and wirless,
computers running Vista Ulitmate (one desktop, one laptop) and Vista
Enterprise desktop (SP 1s) and XP SP3 - all doing fine!!
"Gordon" <gbplinux.TakeThisOut@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:g04nkb$p0n$1@news.mixmin.net...
> "Marjie" <Marjie.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:54D0A37E-5380-4572-A211-9A0B441CAEF1@microsoft.com...
>>
>> Thanks, Bruce, for saying what I've known since I started using Vista.
>> It
>> is NOT network friendly,
>
> Interestingly I also have an XP Pro SP3 machine, and when I bought my new
> Vista Home Premium laptop, the network, err, just worked. I had to do
> NOTHING at all to share files and folders between the two machines both
> ways.
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