(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:40 pm
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how would you then explain the hugely compromised PC performance
that eventually ends into crash - after antivirus is installed in a PC?
i never experienced any virus while using ZoneAlarm properly
configured - altho some spyware can get into a PC but zone alarm
is awesome to have these spyware quarantined.
compromised PC performance and crashes are always been there
since antivirus software are put into market and these antivirus
mfrs do not have much resolutions to offer during crashes.
the agony of frustrations is what matters when crashes occurs
after one have installed antivirus.
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:20:00 -0700, ICQM Houston
> <ICQMHouston RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
> > using anti-virus can attract more viruses into your PC -
>
>
> Absolutely not! That statement is completely wrong.
>
> No anti-virus program can ever be perfect, and even the best one can't
> protect you against the latest virus that appeared in the field just
> after the newest virus definitions became available to you and you
> installed them. But no anti-virus program--not even the worst one--can
> "attract" a virus.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:26 pm
Post subject: RE: crashing every day...help! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
i think there is no need to confirm if antivirus is the issue or not.
judges arrived at their verdict using common sense -
if one uses common sense, pc's compromised performance and crashes
occur after installing antivirus - then if one disable antivirus or
completely remove
antivirus from a PC or do not install antivirus - the problem is gone or no
problem at all with just using awesome firewall like ZoneAlarm --- it is then
safe to say that antivirus can affect or conflict or destroy other
applications theat leads to poor performance and crashes.
i might be wrong saying that antivirus can attract viruses into your PC but
antivirus is the real culprit if poor perforamnce and crashes occurs after
installing one.
"William Anderson" wrote:
> Hey there Taurus,
>
> I know everyone is telling you to uninstall Norton, but let's try to get
> confirmation that Norton is actually the issue first.
>
> Go to Start>Search> Type in compmgmt.msc
> Click on System Tools>Reliability and Performance>Monitoring
> Tools>Reliability Monitor
> Click on a day that you experienced a crash and look for any red x's or
> yellow warning symbols. That will correspond with either an application
> failure, hardware failure or somesuch. See what actually failed and post it
> in here if you're not sure what it is.
>
> Let me know if this helps!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
>
> "taurusbeeegot" wrote:
>
> > I've had my computer for about two months now. It came with Windows Vista. I
> > installed Norton antivirus on it right away. For the past month it's been
> > crashing almost every other day.
> >
> > I have no idea what is going on. I asked a Dell tech and they said to run
> > startup repair, but I'm still having problems.
> >
> > Thanks!
(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:57 am
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taurusbeeegot,
I'm George from Norton. I see Will suggested checking if Norton is
causing your computer to crash. If you are having any trouble with
your Norton AntiVirus, feel free to email me at my personal address at
geohen1[at]gmail[dot]com.
(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:31 am
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"geohen1" <geohen1.392i3h.RemoveThis@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:geohen1.392i3h@DoNotSpam.com...
>
> taurusbeeegot,
>
> I'm George from Norton. I see Will suggested checking if Norton is
> causing your computer to crash. If you are having any trouble with
> your Norton AntiVirus, feel free to email me at my personal address at
> geohen1[at]gmail[dot]com.
George from Norton should have a xxxx.RemoveThis@norton.com e-mail address
(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:15 am
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I have sys being running 24/7 for last 3 years with AV installed, crashed
less than a handful of times, no performance compromises, the sys runs apps
overnight & is heavily used during work hours.
No firewall, properly configured or not, prevents viruses
Crashes are caused by your hw/drivers/apps etc
Your assertions are complete rubbish
"ICQM Houston" <ICQMHouston.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C8F86CEF-4A00-4B4C-8848-1005288947C9@microsoft.com...
> how would you then explain the hugely compromised PC performance
> that eventually ends into crash - after antivirus is installed in a PC?
>
> i never experienced any virus while using ZoneAlarm properly
> configured - altho some spyware can get into a PC but zone alarm
> is awesome to have these spyware quarantined.
>
> compromised PC performance and crashes are always been there
> since antivirus software are put into market and these antivirus
> mfrs do not have much resolutions to offer during crashes.
>
> the agony of frustrations is what matters when crashes occurs
> after one have installed antivirus.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:20:00 -0700, ICQM Houston
>> <ICQMHouston.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > using anti-virus can attract more viruses into your PC -
>>
>>
>> Absolutely not! That statement is completely wrong.
>>
>> No anti-virus program can ever be perfect, and even the best one can't
>> protect you against the latest virus that appeared in the field just
>> after the newest virus definitions became available to you and you
>> installed them. But no anti-virus program--not even the worst one--can
>> "attract" a virus.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>
(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:16 am
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more balderdash
"ICQM Houston" <ICQMHouston.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B2DE6E9-9EAD-42A8-8F6E-F56B1D06E3F0@microsoft.com...
>i think there is no need to confirm if antivirus is the issue or not.
> judges arrived at their verdict using common sense -
>
> if one uses common sense, pc's compromised performance and crashes
> occur after installing antivirus - then if one disable antivirus or
> completely remove
> antivirus from a PC or do not install antivirus - the problem is gone or
> no
> problem at all with just using awesome firewall like ZoneAlarm --- it is
> then
> safe to say that antivirus can affect or conflict or destroy other
> applications theat leads to poor performance and crashes.
>
> i might be wrong saying that antivirus can attract viruses into your PC
> but
> antivirus is the real culprit if poor perforamnce and crashes occurs after
> installing one.
>
>
> "William Anderson" wrote:
>
>> Hey there Taurus,
>>
>> I know everyone is telling you to uninstall Norton, but let's try to get
>> confirmation that Norton is actually the issue first.
>>
>> Go to Start>Search> Type in compmgmt.msc
>> Click on System Tools>Reliability and Performance>Monitoring
>> Tools>Reliability Monitor
>> Click on a day that you experienced a crash and look for any red x's or
>> yellow warning symbols. That will correspond with either an application
>> failure, hardware failure or somesuch. See what actually failed and post
>> it
>> in here if you're not sure what it is.
>>
>> Let me know if this helps!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Will
>>
>> "taurusbeeegot" wrote:
>>
>> > I've had my computer for about two months now. It came with Windows
>> > Vista. I
>> > installed Norton antivirus on it right away. For the past month it's
>> > been
>> > crashing almost every other day.
>> >
>> > I have no idea what is going on. I asked a Dell tech and they said to
>> > run
>> > startup repair, but I'm still having problems.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:20 pm
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Okay, I ran the check and what pops up a lot is that my OS has stopped
working. How do I fix this?
"William Anderson" wrote:
> Hey there Taurus,
>
> I know everyone is telling you to uninstall Norton, but let's try to get
> confirmation that Norton is actually the issue first.
>
> Go to Start>Search> Type in compmgmt.msc
> Click on System Tools>Reliability and Performance>Monitoring
> Tools>Reliability Monitor
> Click on a day that you experienced a crash and look for any red x's or
> yellow warning symbols. That will correspond with either an application
> failure, hardware failure or somesuch. See what actually failed and post it
> in here if you're not sure what it is.
>
> Let me know if this helps!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
>
> "taurusbeeegot" wrote:
>
> > I've had my computer for about two months now. It came with Windows Vista. I
> > installed Norton antivirus on it right away. For the past month it's been
> > crashing almost every other day.
> >
> > I have no idea what is going on. I asked a Dell tech and they said to run
> > startup repair, but I'm still having problems.
> >
> > Thanks!
(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:06 pm
Post subject: Re: crashing every day...help! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
balderdash? DL - i beleived your are a norton man - you are not addressing
the problem. taurus said his pc "crashes almost every other day" after
antivirus was installed. why blame on the other driver when in fact
anti-virus can conflict with other drivers or program?
"DL" wrote:
> more balderdash
>
> "ICQM Houston" <ICQMHouston.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6B2DE6E9-9EAD-42A8-8F6E-F56B1D06E3F0@microsoft.com...
> >i think there is no need to confirm if antivirus is the issue or not.
> > judges arrived at their verdict using common sense -
> >
> > if one uses common sense, pc's compromised performance and crashes
> > occur after installing antivirus - then if one disable antivirus or
> > completely remove
> > antivirus from a PC or do not install antivirus - the problem is gone or
> > no
> > problem at all with just using awesome firewall like ZoneAlarm --- it is
> > then
> > safe to say that antivirus can affect or conflict or destroy other
> > applications theat leads to poor performance and crashes.
> >
> > i might be wrong saying that antivirus can attract viruses into your PC
> > but
> > antivirus is the real culprit if poor perforamnce and crashes occurs after
> > installing one.
> >
> >
> > "William Anderson" wrote:
> >
> >> Hey there Taurus,
> >>
> >> I know everyone is telling you to uninstall Norton, but let's try to get
> >> confirmation that Norton is actually the issue first.
> >>
> >> Go to Start>Search> Type in compmgmt.msc
> >> Click on System Tools>Reliability and Performance>Monitoring
> >> Tools>Reliability Monitor
> >> Click on a day that you experienced a crash and look for any red x's or
> >> yellow warning symbols. That will correspond with either an application
> >> failure, hardware failure or somesuch. See what actually failed and post
> >> it
> >> in here if you're not sure what it is.
> >>
> >> Let me know if this helps!
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Will
> >>
> >> "taurusbeeegot" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I've had my computer for about two months now. It came with Windows
> >> > Vista. I
> >> > installed Norton antivirus on it right away. For the past month it's
> >> > been
> >> > crashing almost every other day.
> >> >
> >> > I have no idea what is going on. I asked a Dell tech and they said to
> >> > run
> >> > startup repair, but I'm still having problems.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
>
>
>
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