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John

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:14 am
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I've been using WinXP Pro since it was first released and I'm very happy
with it. However, I have a requirement to learn about Vista and Linux so I
recently bought a 500GB hard drive and intend to partition it in the
following way: three partitions, each 50GB in size, one for XP, one for
Vista Ultimate and one for Linux (probably Ubuntu) with the remainder of the
disc probably split into either two or three partitions for music, photos
and user documents/data.

My question is, in what order do I install the operating systems, so that
when I power up the machine, I'm presented with the choice of which OS to
boot into?

Thanks,

John
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Rick Rogers

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:14 am
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Hi John,

XP/Vista/Linux

Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two. Window's
version cannot load Linux. Alternatively you can use a third party
bootloader that can handle any of them, then it won't matter which order you
install them in.

Alternately, you can use Virtual PC or a similar product under XP to install
and run Vista and Linux without having to repartition or worry about
bootloaders. You'll find it here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=04D26402-3199...A3-AFA2

For installing Ubuntu in Virtual PC, you'll need to see this to correct
video and mouse issues:
http://haacked.com/archive/2007/05/06/installing-ubuntu-on-virtual-pc-...-window

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"John" <replyingroup@notemail> wrote in message
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> I've been using WinXP Pro since it was first released and I'm very happy
> with it. However, I have a requirement to learn about Vista and Linux so I
> recently bought a 500GB hard drive and intend to partition it in the
> following way: three partitions, each 50GB in size, one for XP, one for
> Vista Ultimate and one for Linux (probably Ubuntu) with the remainder of
> the disc probably split into either two or three partitions for music,
> photos and user documents/data.
>
> My question is, in what order do I install the operating systems, so that
> when I power up the machine, I'm presented with the choice of which OS to
> boot into?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
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John

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:42 pm
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That's brilliant Rick, thanks very much.

John.

Rick Rogers wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> XP/Vista/Linux
>
> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two.
> Window's version cannot load Linux. Alternatively you can use a third
> party bootloader that can handle any of them, then it won't matter
> which order you install them in.
>
> Alternately, you can use Virtual PC or a similar product under XP to
> install and run Vista and Linux without having to repartition or
> worry about bootloaders. You'll find it here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=04D26402-3199...A3-AFA2
>
> For installing Ubuntu in Virtual PC, you'll need to see this to
> correct video and mouse issues:
> http://haacked.com/archive/2007/05/06/installing-ubuntu-on-virtual-pc-...-window
>
>
> "John" <replyingroup@notemail> wrote in message
> news:lLmdnd_E96UMhbXVnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@bt.com...
>> I've been using WinXP Pro since it was first released and I'm very
>> happy with it. However, I have a requirement to learn about Vista
>> and Linux so I recently bought a 500GB hard drive and intend to
>> partition it in the following way: three partitions, each 50GB in
>> size, one for XP, one for Vista Ultimate and one for Linux (probably
>> Ubuntu) with the remainder of the disc probably split into either
>> two or three partitions for music, photos and user documents/data.
>>
>> My question is, in what order do I install the operating systems, so
>> that when I power up the machine, I'm presented with the choice of
>> which OS to boot into?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:42 pm
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"John" <replyingroup@notemail> wrote in message
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> That's brilliant Rick, thanks very much.
>
> John.
>
John, you may also consider installing Ubuntu 8.04 using the Wibi installer
which is included in the Live CD of Ubuntu 8.04 ;Wubi installs the distro as
a virtual file in Windows .
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#head-47448c7ce144e88d6ee1a0c5aa37a215fec00d86

Regards
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:55 pm
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"Rick Rogers" <rick.TakeThisOut@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Hi John,
>
> XP/Vista/Linux
>
> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two. Window's
> version cannot load Linux.

Wubi sets up windows loader to load linux or windows so it can boot linux
and it has been able to do so for years.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:22 pm
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:31:11 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:#3#t#sBtIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi John,
>>
>> XP/Vista/Linux
>>
>> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two. Window's
>> version cannot load Linux.
>
> Wubi sets up windows loader to load linux or windows so it can boot linux
> and it has been able to do so for years.

Boots Linux from an ext3 partition or only a copy installed in wubi?

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:02 am
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"Trevor Best" <newsreply.RemoveThis@besty.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:31:11 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick.RemoveThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:#3#t#sBtIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> XP/Vista/Linux
>>>
>>> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two. Window's
>>> version cannot load Linux.
>>
>> Wubi sets up windows loader to load linux or windows so it can boot linux
>> and it has been able to do so for years.
>
> Boots Linux from an ext3 partition or only a copy installed in wubi?
>
> --
> A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.

Only one issue with wubi... but I admit I have never run Ubuntu that way.

Do you get the FULL performance benefit of disk and network read/writes or
does the Vista drivers still cripple you?

For example, I can copy in files to vista at about 5mbs. In linux in a real
partition I get 100mbs. That is 20 times faster!

Question, is this hit not as bad in wubi? Is it worth the hit?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:02 am
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Canuck57 wrote:

> "Trevor Best" <newsreply.DeleteThis@besty.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.05.12.22.22.48.24484@besty.org.uk...
>
>>On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:31:11 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"Rick Rogers" <rick.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>news:#3#t#sBtIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>Hi John,
>>>>
>>>>XP/Vista/Linux
>>>>
>>>>Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two. Window's
>>>>version cannot load Linux.
>>>
>>>Wubi sets up windows loader to load linux or windows so it can boot linux
>>>and it has been able to do so for years.
>>
>>Boots Linux from an ext3 partition or only a copy installed in wubi?
>>
>>--
>>A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.
>
>
> Only one issue with wubi... but I admit I have never run Ubuntu that way.
>
> Do you get the FULL performance benefit of disk and network read/writes or
> does the Vista drivers still cripple you?
>
> For example, I can copy in files to vista at about 5mbs. In linux in a real
> partition I get 100mbs. That is 20 times faster!
>
> Question, is this hit not as bad in wubi? Is it worth the hit?
>
>
Bullshit! Something you're famous for.
Frank
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