System Restore / System Checkpoint

Thank you. Are any of them done while the notebook (VistaHPsp1) is turned on
and I am not using it for a specific length of time?
Or are all of these (automatic) System Restore Checkpoints done in the
'background' while I am actually using the notebook?

========
"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi Alice,
>
> It's similar. Open Task Scheduler and go to Task Scheduler
> Library\Microsoft\Windows\System Restore and click on the system restore
> task in the upper pane, then check conditions and settings tabs in the
> lower. The default setting is for a specific time, time-out, and to run as
> soon as possible if missed. These will usually cause a daily backup to be
> created without user intervention.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "AliceZ" <AliceZ RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:66F3D549-2CA9-4A72-9FD0-20A5F48BA61C@microsoft.com...
> >I remember with WinXP that if I had my computer turned on and was not using
> > it for a certain length of time (maybe 30 minutes), it would
> > 'automatically'
> > create a 'System Checkpoint' in the System Restore area.
> > I could also 'manually' create a 'System Checkpoint.'
> > What I would like to know is - doees Vista (Home Premium) create such an
> > 'automatic' System Checkpoint if I have notebook turned on, but don't use
> > if
> > for about 30 minutes?
> >
> > (I believe there is a way to turn on an Automatic 'System Checkpoint' that
> > you can schedule to be done at a certain time. That is not what I am
> > talking
> > about. I am talking about an 'automatic' System Checkpoint' that is done
> > if
> > the computer is turned on, but not used for 30 minutes or more
> > (approximately).
>
>

Hi,

If you are using the default settings, Alice, then a missed restore point
creation will be implemented as soon as the system is idle for the specified
time (10 minutes is the default).

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"AliceZ" <AliceZ DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:49D0E571-D124-480B-97FB-A1A0FBB0D9E0@microsoft.com...
> Thank you. Are any of them done while the notebook (VistaHPsp1) is turned
> on
> and I am not using it for a specific length of time?
> Or are all of these (automatic) System Restore Checkpoints done in the
> 'background' while I am actually using the notebook?
>
> ========
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi Alice,
>>
>> It's similar. Open Task Scheduler and go to Task Scheduler
>> Library\Microsoft\Windows\System Restore and click on the system restore
>> task in the upper pane, then check conditions and settings tabs in the
>> lower. The default setting is for a specific time, time-out, and to run
>> as
>> soon as possible if missed. These will usually cause a daily backup to be
>> created without user intervention.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "AliceZ" <AliceZ DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:66F3D549-2CA9-4A72-9FD0-20A5F48BA61C@microsoft.com...
>> >I remember with WinXP that if I had my computer turned on and was not
>> >using
>> > it for a certain length of time (maybe 30 minutes), it would
>> > 'automatically'
>> > create a 'System Checkpoint' in the System Restore area.
>> > I could also 'manually' create a 'System Checkpoint.'
>> > What I would like to know is - doees Vista (Home Premium) create such
>> > an
>> > 'automatic' System Checkpoint if I have notebook turned on, but don't
>> > use
>> > if
>> > for about 30 minutes?
>> >
>> > (I believe there is a way to turn on an Automatic 'System Checkpoint'
>> > that
>> > you can schedule to be done at a certain time. That is not what I am
>> > talking
>> > about. I am talking about an 'automatic' System Checkpoint' that is
>> > done
>> > if
>> > the computer is turned on, but not used for 30 minutes or more
>> > (approximately).
>>
>>

AliceZ - The default System Restore creation is the same on Vista as XP. If
no action is performed that would automatically create a restore point,
Vista creates a "System Checkpoint" restore point after 24 hours - note it
is 24 hours of "computer on" time - not calendar 24 hours.

Default in XP was not ten minutes - if your XP created a restore point
(redundant?) every ten minutes it was based on a set schedule.



"AliceZ" <AliceZ.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:66F3D549-2CA9-4A72-9FD0-20A5F48BA61C@microsoft.com...
>I remember with WinXP that if I had my computer turned on and was not using
> it for a certain length of time (maybe 30 minutes), it would
> 'automatically'
> create a 'System Checkpoint' in the System Restore area.
> I could also 'manually' create a 'System Checkpoint.'
> What I would like to know is - doees Vista (Home Premium) create such an
> 'automatic' System Checkpoint if I have notebook turned on, but don't use
> if
> for about 30 minutes?
>
> (I believe there is a way to turn on an Automatic 'System Checkpoint' that
> you can schedule to be done at a certain time. That is not what I am
> talking
> about. I am talking about an 'automatic' System Checkpoint' that is done
> if
> the computer is turned on, but not used for 30 minutes or more
> (approximately).

Thank you both.
I left notebook on for 30 minutes today (not using it) and did not see a
restore point created.
I did go toL:
"Task Scheduler Library\Microsoft\Windows\System Restore and click on the
system restore task in the upper pane, then check conditions and settings
tabs in the lower."
In Conditions, everything was 'gray-ed' out.
In Properties I saw Start Tast was checked and marked for "10 mins," and
Wait for idle was for "365 days."
Should that "Wait for idle" be set for 365 days?"
As you can tell, I am quite confused about all of this. Thanks again.


=================
"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you are using the default settings, Alice, then a missed restore point
> creation will be implemented as soon as the system is idle for the specified
> time (10 minutes is the default).
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "AliceZ" <AliceZ.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:49D0E571-D124-480B-97FB-A1A0FBB0D9E0@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you. Are any of them done while the notebook (VistaHPsp1) is turned
> > on
> > and I am not using it for a specific length of time?
> > Or are all of these (automatic) System Restore Checkpoints done in the
> > 'background' while I am actually using the notebook?
> >
> > ========
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Alice,
> >>
> >> It's similar. Open Task Scheduler and go to Task Scheduler
> >> Library\Microsoft\Windows\System Restore and click on the system restore
> >> task in the upper pane, then check conditions and settings tabs in the
> >> lower. The default setting is for a specific time, time-out, and to run
> >> as
> >> soon as possible if missed. These will usually cause a daily backup to be
> >> created without user intervention.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> "AliceZ" <AliceZ.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:66F3D549-2CA9-4A72-9FD0-20A5F48BA61C@microsoft.com...
> >> >I remember with WinXP that if I had my computer turned on and was not
> >> >using
> >> > it for a certain length of time (maybe 30 minutes), it would
> >> > 'automatically'
> >> > create a 'System Checkpoint' in the System Restore area.
> >> > I could also 'manually' create a 'System Checkpoint.'
> >> > What I would like to know is - doees Vista (Home Premium) create such
> >> > an
> >> > 'automatic' System Checkpoint if I have notebook turned on, but don't
> >> > use
> >> > if
> >> > for about 30 minutes?
> >> >
> >> > (I believe there is a way to turn on an Automatic 'System Checkpoint'
> >> > that
> >> > you can schedule to be done at a certain time. That is not what I am
> >> > talking
> >> > about. I am talking about an 'automatic' System Checkpoint' that is
> >> > done
> >> > if
> >> > the computer is turned on, but not used for 30 minutes or more
> >> > (approximately).
> >>
> >>
>
>

Hi,

Yes, that is the default setting. It just means that if powered on, the
machine will wait for up to one year for it to become idle to start the
task. I suspect your system is probably not idle at this point, but is
downloading updates to Windows or perhaps anti-malware programs.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"AliceZ" <AliceZ.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DD0AAFC7-556A-4EAD-9A89-38D910297A0B@microsoft.com...
> Thank you both.
> I left notebook on for 30 minutes today (not using it) and did not see a
> restore point created.
> I did go toL:
> "Task Scheduler Library\Microsoft\Windows\System Restore and click on the
> system restore task in the upper pane, then check conditions and settings
> tabs in the lower."
> In Conditions, everything was 'gray-ed' out.
> In Properties I saw Start Tast was checked and marked for "10 mins," and
> Wait for idle was for "365 days."
> Should that "Wait for idle" be set for 365 days?"
> As you can tell, I am quite confused about all of this. Thanks again.
>
>
> =================
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you are using the default settings, Alice, then a missed restore point
>> creation will be implemented as soon as the system is idle for the
>> specified
>> time (10 minutes is the default).
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "AliceZ" <AliceZ.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:49D0E571-D124-480B-97FB-A1A0FBB0D9E0@microsoft.com...
>> > Thank you. Are any of them done while the notebook (VistaHPsp1) is
>> > turned
>> > on
>> > and I am not using it for a specific length of time?
>> > Or are all of these (automatic) System Restore Checkpoints done in the
>> > 'background' while I am actually using the notebook?
>> >
>> > ========
>> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Alice,
>> >>
>> >> It's similar. Open Task Scheduler and go to Task Scheduler
>> >> Library\Microsoft\Windows\System Restore and click on the system
>> >> restore
>> >> task in the upper pane, then check conditions and settings tabs in the
>> >> lower. The default setting is for a specific time, time-out, and to
>> >> run
>> >> as
>> >> soon as possible if missed. These will usually cause a daily backup to
>> >> be
>> >> created without user intervention.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best of Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> >>
>> >> "AliceZ" <AliceZ.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:66F3D549-2CA9-4A72-9FD0-20A5F48BA61C@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I remember with WinXP that if I had my computer turned on and was not
>> >> >using
>> >> > it for a certain length of time (maybe 30 minutes), it would
>> >> > 'automatically'
>> >> > create a 'System Checkpoint' in the System Restore area.
>> >> > I could also 'manually' create a 'System Checkpoint.'
>> >> > What I would like to know is - doees Vista (Home Premium) create
>> >> > such
>> >> > an
>> >> > 'automatic' System Checkpoint if I have notebook turned on, but
>> >> > don't
>> >> > use
>> >> > if
>> >> > for about 30 minutes?
>> >> >
>> >> > (I believe there is a way to turn on an Automatic 'System
>> >> > Checkpoint'
>> >> > that
>> >> > you can schedule to be done at a certain time. That is not what I am
>> >> > talking
>> >> > about. I am talking about an 'automatic' System Checkpoint' that is
>> >> > done
>> >> > if
>> >> > the computer is turned on, but not used for 30 minutes or more
>> >> > (approximately).
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

don't worry - windows were designed to confuse the already
confused minds of many windows users



"AliceZ" wrote:

> I remember with WinXP that if I had my computer turned on and was not using
> it for a certain length of time (maybe 30 minutes), it would 'automatically'
> create a 'System Checkpoint' in the System Restore area.
> I could also 'manually' create a 'System Checkpoint.'
> What I would like to know is - doees Vista (Home Premium) create such an
> 'automatic' System Checkpoint if I have notebook turned on, but don't use if
> for about 30 minutes?
>
> (I believe there is a way to turn on an Automatic 'System Checkpoint' that
> you can schedule to be done at a certain time. That is not what I am talking
> about. I am talking about an 'automatic' System Checkpoint' that is done if
> the computer is turned on, but not used for 30 minutes or more
> (approximately).