Sequential photo listing

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:50:00 -0700, thxheynow
<thxheynow DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>PLease can someone help ... is any clarification needed?
>
>"thxheynow" wrote:
>
>> When i have a folder of photos in an order i want and do a select all and
>> rename the first pic to (1) why does vista take it upon itself to change the
>> order and scramble the pics into some illogical order???!! SO if i had pics
>> of a house being built one would be a concrete slab the next ends up being
>> shingling the roof as pic two.... it doesnt make sense. I have been burning
>> my pics onto a disc to load into an xp computer ... put them in the order i
>> want then put them back on to vista. Can someone tell me how to turn the
>> "what Vista feels like" order off? THis has been driving me crazy!!

Depends if what YOU want as far as order is supported. If you're
renaming by numbers you MIGHT run into the alpha verse numeric sort
issue.

Since what you want to do has to follow in a logical order a quick way
to sort would be by sorting by "date modified", since your first
picture would be digging the hole, then the concrete slab, starting to
put up walls, the roof and so on.

Open the folder in Windows Explorer. Right click on a blank area, then
sort by, then date modified. If that option doesn't show, click on
"more" find it, check it. Be aware you may also need to click on the
move up button to get the sort choice you want to bubble up the list,
otherwise even if your check something, it may not show.

Good luck with the house.

the house was just an example .... all i know is in xp i would put a bunch of
pics that said whatever on them, id hit select all put the title in such as
25th birthday (1) and it would number them in the order i had them. In vista
when i do this it gives the number to to a pic 3 rows down. It just picks
for all over ... even if the pics are in the original order they came out of
the camera in. Hopefully this sounds a little more clear .... if i can
maybe explain it again more clear please ask me.

thanks

"Adam Albright" wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:50:00 -0700, thxheynow
> <thxheynow.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >PLease can someone help ... is any clarification needed?
> >
> >"thxheynow" wrote:
> >
> >> When i have a folder of photos in an order i want and do a select all and
> >> rename the first pic to (1) why does vista take it upon itself to change the
> >> order and scramble the pics into some illogical order???!! SO if i had pics
> >> of a house being built one would be a concrete slab the next ends up being
> >> shingling the roof as pic two.... it doesnt make sense. I have been burning
> >> my pics onto a disc to load into an xp computer ... put them in the order i
> >> want then put them back on to vista. Can someone tell me how to turn the
> >> "what Vista feels like" order off? THis has been driving me crazy!!
>
> Depends if what YOU want as far as order is supported. If you're
> renaming by numbers you MIGHT run into the alpha verse numeric sort
> issue.
>
> Since what you want to do has to follow in a logical order a quick way
> to sort would be by sorting by "date modified", since your first
> picture would be digging the hole, then the concrete slab, starting to
> put up walls, the roof and so on.
>
> Open the folder in Windows Explorer. Right click on a blank area, then
> sort by, then date modified. If that option doesn't show, click on
> "more" find it, check it. Be aware you may also need to click on the
> move up button to get the sort choice you want to bubble up the list,
> otherwise even if your check something, it may not show.
>
> Good luck with the house.
>
>

Wow nobody can help me figure this problem out??

"thxheynow" wrote:

> the house was just an example .... all i know is in xp i would put a bunch of
> pics that said whatever on them, id hit select all put the title in such as
> 25th birthday (1) and it would number them in the order i had them. In vista
> when i do this it gives the number to to a pic 3 rows down. It just picks
> for all over ... even if the pics are in the original order they came out of
> the camera in. Hopefully this sounds a little more clear .... if i can
> maybe explain it again more clear please ask me.
>
> thanks
>
> "Adam Albright" wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:50:00 -0700, thxheynow
> > <thxheynow RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > >PLease can someone help ... is any clarification needed?
> > >
> > >"thxheynow" wrote:
> > >
> > >> When i have a folder of photos in an order i want and do a select all and
> > >> rename the first pic to (1) why does vista take it upon itself to change the
> > >> order and scramble the pics into some illogical order???!! SO if i had pics
> > >> of a house being built one would be a concrete slab the next ends up being
> > >> shingling the roof as pic two.... it doesnt make sense. I have been burning
> > >> my pics onto a disc to load into an xp computer ... put them in the order i
> > >> want then put them back on to vista. Can someone tell me how to turn the
> > >> "what Vista feels like" order off? THis has been driving me crazy!!
> >
> > Depends if what YOU want as far as order is supported. If you're
> > renaming by numbers you MIGHT run into the alpha verse numeric sort
> > issue.
> >
> > Since what you want to do has to follow in a logical order a quick way
> > to sort would be by sorting by "date modified", since your first
> > picture would be digging the hole, then the concrete slab, starting to
> > put up walls, the roof and so on.
> >
> > Open the folder in Windows Explorer. Right click on a blank area, then
> > sort by, then date modified. If that option doesn't show, click on
> > "more" find it, check it. Be aware you may also need to click on the
> > move up button to get the sort choice you want to bubble up the list,
> > otherwise even if your check something, it may not show.
> >
> > Good luck with the house.
> >
> >

On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 07:17:01 -0800, thxheynow
<thxheynow.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Wow nobody can help me figure this problem out??

Part of the problem with TRYING to help is first trying to figure out
what the original poster is REALLY wishing to do. Often, it can be
seen as the OP trying to force square pegs into round holes. The
result can at best be you knock off the corners and end up an
unsatisfactory result.

It still isn't clear what you wish to do. Are you trying to rename
photos so the names change from the original to something else or are
you just trying to force some order for display purposes in a one time
slideshow or make a slideshow you want to burn to a CD or still
something else like just changing the display order as shown in
Windows Explorer. BE CLEAR and SPECIFIC in what you want or we just
end up playing a round of 20 questions.


>
>"thxheynow" wrote:
>
>> the house was just an example .... all i know is in xp i would put a bunch of
>> pics that said whatever on them, id hit select all put the title in such as
>> 25th birthday (1) and it would number them in the order i had them. In vista
>> when i do this it gives the number to to a pic 3 rows down. It just picks
>> for all over ... even if the pics are in the original order they came out of
>> the camera in. Hopefully this sounds a little more clear .... if i can
>> maybe explain it again more clear please ask me.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> "Adam Albright" wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:50:00 -0700, thxheynow
>> > <thxheynow.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >PLease can someone help ... is any clarification needed?
>> > >
>> > >"thxheynow" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> When i have a folder of photos in an order i want and do a select all and
>> > >> rename the first pic to (1) why does vista take it upon itself to change the
>> > >> order and scramble the pics into some illogical order???!! SO if i had pics
>> > >> of a house being built one would be a concrete slab the next ends up being
>> > >> shingling the roof as pic two.... it doesnt make sense. I have been burning
>> > >> my pics onto a disc to load into an xp computer ... put them in the order i
>> > >> want then put them back on to vista. Can someone tell me how to turn the
>> > >> "what Vista feels like" order off? THis has been driving me crazy!!
>> >
>> > Depends if what YOU want as far as order is supported. If you're
>> > renaming by numbers you MIGHT run into the alpha verse numeric sort
>> > issue.
>> >
>> > Since what you want to do has to follow in a logical order a quick way
>> > to sort would be by sorting by "date modified", since your first
>> > picture would be digging the hole, then the concrete slab, starting to
>> > put up walls, the roof and so on.
>> >
>> > Open the folder in Windows Explorer. Right click on a blank area, then
>> > sort by, then date modified. If that option doesn't show, click on
>> > "more" find it, check it. Be aware you may also need to click on the
>> > move up button to get the sort choice you want to bubble up the list,
>> > otherwise even if your check something, it may not show.
>> >
>> > Good luck with the house.
>> >
>> >

I dont know how else to explain this ..... if i have a bunch of pics, put
them in a folder drag and drop them in the order i want then go to select all
and rename. I'll type something like "Vacation (1)" on the first pic, when
id press enter in xp all the pics would number sequential number order. In
vista ill do this hit enter and the second pic will be something from 3 rows
down labeled pic (2). Theyll be in some other kind of order. not the order
i sat there putting them in. I dont know how else to be more clear on this.
its not for doing slideshows or anything although any pic i click on in an
album does give me the same problem. when i click a pic to full screen and
then click to see the next pic it will select something 10 pictures ahead
instead of showing me the pic that was right next to it in the folder.

"Adam Albright" wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 07:17:01 -0800, thxheynow
> <thxheynow.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Wow nobody can help me figure this problem out??
>
> Part of the problem with TRYING to help is first trying to figure out
> what the original poster is REALLY wishing to do. Often, it can be
> seen as the OP trying to force square pegs into round holes. The
> result can at best be you knock off the corners and end up an
> unsatisfactory result.
>
> It still isn't clear what you wish to do. Are you trying to rename
> photos so the names change from the original to something else or are
> you just trying to force some order for display purposes in a one time
> slideshow or make a slideshow you want to burn to a CD or still
> something else like just changing the display order as shown in
> Windows Explorer. BE CLEAR and SPECIFIC in what you want or we just
> end up playing a round of 20 questions.
>
>
> >
> >"thxheynow" wrote:
> >
> >> the house was just an example .... all i know is in xp i would put a bunch of
> >> pics that said whatever on them, id hit select all put the title in such as
> >> 25th birthday (1) and it would number them in the order i had them. In vista
> >> when i do this it gives the number to to a pic 3 rows down. It just picks
> >> for all over ... even if the pics are in the original order they came out of
> >> the camera in. Hopefully this sounds a little more clear .... if i can
> >> maybe explain it again more clear please ask me.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> "Adam Albright" wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:50:00 -0700, thxheynow
> >> > <thxheynow.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >PLease can someone help ... is any clarification needed?
> >> > >
> >> > >"thxheynow" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> When i have a folder of photos in an order i want and do a select all and
> >> > >> rename the first pic to (1) why does vista take it upon itself to change the
> >> > >> order and scramble the pics into some illogical order???!! SO if i had pics
> >> > >> of a house being built one would be a concrete slab the next ends up being
> >> > >> shingling the roof as pic two.... it doesnt make sense. I have been burning
> >> > >> my pics onto a disc to load into an xp computer ... put them in the order i
> >> > >> want then put them back on to vista. Can someone tell me how to turn the
> >> > >> "what Vista feels like" order off? THis has been driving me crazy!!
> >> >
> >> > Depends if what YOU want as far as order is supported. If you're
> >> > renaming by numbers you MIGHT run into the alpha verse numeric sort
> >> > issue.
> >> >
> >> > Since what you want to do has to follow in a logical order a quick way
> >> > to sort would be by sorting by "date modified", since your first
> >> > picture would be digging the hole, then the concrete slab, starting to
> >> > put up walls, the roof and so on.
> >> >
> >> > Open the folder in Windows Explorer. Right click on a blank area, then
> >> > sort by, then date modified. If that option doesn't show, click on
> >> > "more" find it, check it. Be aware you may also need to click on the
> >> > move up button to get the sort choice you want to bubble up the list,
> >> > otherwise even if your check something, it may not show.
> >> >
> >> > Good luck with the house.
> >> >
> >> >
>
>

On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 07:51:00 -0800, thxheynow
<thxheynow.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I dont know how else to explain this ..... if i have a bunch of pics, put
>them in a folder drag and drop them in the order i want then go to select all
>and rename. I'll type something like "Vacation (1)" on the first pic, when
>id press enter in xp all the pics would number sequential number order. In
>vista ill do this hit enter and the second pic will be something from 3 rows
>down labeled pic (2). Theyll be in some other kind of order. not the order
>i sat there putting them in. I dont know how else to be more clear on this.
>its not for doing slideshows or anything although any pic i click on in an
>album does give me the same problem. when i click a pic to full screen and
>then click to see the next pic it will select something 10 pictures ahead
>instead of showing me the pic that was right next to it in the folder.

Ok, so you want to RENAME a bunch of photos in a folder. First
understand how you drop files in a folder has no effect on how they
will get resorted. They will be sorted based on whatever sort option
you selected for the new folder. Which if you're trying to keep them
in some order should be the same sort order in the folder you're
moving from AND the new folder as well. I'll assume you had both
folders sorted by name. So you first mistake is assuming "how you
want" meaning in which order you drag and drop or copy or paste them
to the new folder will effect how they get renamed. It does not.

I just tried myself using Windows Explorer.

1. I made a new folder, called it vacation photos.

2. I then copied 5 images to this folder.

3. Before copying, the files were named as follows:

a. Billy
b. Cory
c. Frank
d. Tom
e. Zeb

4. Once the files were copied to the new folder I clicked 'select all'
from Edit on the tool bar. All 5 images were highlighted, meaning
they were selected and could be worked on as a group.

5. I right clicked on the first one (Billy) then renamed to
Vacation (1)

After doing that the result was the five files got renamed to Vacation
(1) through Vacation (5). Billy got renamed to Vacation (1), Cory to
Vacation (2) and so on.

If you wanted Frank to be Vacation (1) and not Vacation (3) you would
have had to rename it before to change it's position or do it after.
In order words there is no way to do what you want... have files
renamed in the sequence to place them in the new folder and Windows
never could do that that I'm aware because it would make no sense. The
reason being Windows isn't designed to "remember" how you place files
in a folder. Instead it gives many options to sort by, but not that
one.









>
>"Adam Albright" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 07:17:01 -0800, thxheynow
>> <thxheynow.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Wow nobody can help me figure this problem out??
>>
>> Part of the problem with TRYING to help is first trying to figure out
>> what the original poster is REALLY wishing to do. Often, it can be
>> seen as the OP trying to force square pegs into round holes. The
>> result can at best be you knock off the corners and end up an
>> unsatisfactory result.
>>
>> It still isn't clear what you wish to do. Are you trying to rename
>> photos so the names change from the original to something else or are
>> you just trying to force some order for display purposes in a one time
>> slideshow or make a slideshow you want to burn to a CD or still
>> something else like just changing the display order as shown in
>> Windows Explorer. BE CLEAR and SPECIFIC in what you want or we just
>> end up playing a round of 20 questions.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >"thxheynow" wrote:
>> >
>> >> the house was just an example .... all i know is in xp i would put a bunch of
>> >> pics that said whatever on them, id hit select all put the title in such as
>> >> 25th birthday (1) and it would number them in the order i had them. In vista
>> >> when i do this it gives the number to to a pic 3 rows down. It just picks
>> >> for all over ... even if the pics are in the original order they came out of
>> >> the camera in. Hopefully this sounds a little more clear .... if i can
>> >> maybe explain it again more clear please ask me.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> "Adam Albright" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:50:00 -0700, thxheynow
>> >> > <thxheynow.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >PLease can someone help ... is any clarification needed?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >"thxheynow" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> When i have a folder of photos in an order i want and do a select all and
>> >> > >> rename the first pic to (1) why does vista take it upon itself to change the
>> >> > >> order and scramble the pics into some illogical order???!! SO if i had pics
>> >> > >> of a house being built one would be a concrete slab the next ends up being
>> >> > >> shingling the roof as pic two.... it doesnt make sense. I have been burning
>> >> > >> my pics onto a disc to load into an xp computer ... put them in the order i
>> >> > >> want then put them back on to vista. Can someone tell me how to turn the
>> >> > >> "what Vista feels like" order off? THis has been driving me crazy!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Depends if what YOU want as far as order is supported. If you're
>> >> > renaming by numbers you MIGHT run into the alpha verse numeric sort
>> >> > issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since what you want to do has to follow in a logical order a quick way
>> >> > to sort would be by sorting by "date modified", since your first
>> >> > picture would be digging the hole, then the concrete slab, starting to
>> >> > put up walls, the roof and so on.
>> >> >
>> >> > Open the folder in Windows Explorer. Right click on a blank area, then
>> >> > sort by, then date modified. If that option doesn't show, click on
>> >> > "more" find it, check it. Be aware you may also need to click on the
>> >> > move up button to get the sort choice you want to bubble up the list,
>> >> > otherwise even if your check something, it may not show.
>> >> >
>> >> > Good luck with the house.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>