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sjh

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Since: Aug 12, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:15 pm
Post subject: Migrating from Windows 98SE to Vista
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I have several questions.
I have just purchased a new PC with Vista Home Premium. I plan to install
Lotus123 and Word Pro (Millenium Edition 9.5) which I've been using on my old
PC and migrate the files that I've backed up to the new machine. These were
backed up using the backup program that Microsoft provided with 98SE.
Assuming that I can extract and install the backup program on the new system,
is there any problem in doing this? Can that program be extracted? Would
that backup program work on Vista?
I've also backed up my favorites and my address files with this program. I
know Vista is very different but can you give me any guidance as to how I
might transfer these two files so that they would be usable on Vista?
Thanks...
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Bruce Chambers

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Migrating from Windows 98SE to Vista [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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sjh wrote:
> I have several questions.
> I have just purchased a new PC with Vista Home Premium. I plan to install
> Lotus123


What specific version? It looks as if you'll need to upgrade to Lotus
SmartSuite 9.8 to gain Vista-compatibility.


> .... and Word Pro (Millenium Edition 9.5) which I've been using on my old
> PC .....


Again, it looks as if you'll need to upgrade to Lotus SmartSuite 9.8 to
gain Vista-compatibility.


and migrate the files that I've backed up to the new machine. These were
> backed up using the backup program that Microsoft provided with 98SE.
> Assuming that I can extract and install the backup program on the new system,
> is there any problem in doing this?

Yes. You won't be able to install Win98's backup program on Vista. I
can't even imagine why you'd think it possible; the operating systems
are generations (from a technology point-of-view) apart and radically
different.

> Can that program be extracted?

Doesn't matter.

> Would
> that backup program work on Vista?

No. You'll need to extract those files on a Win98 machine before
attempting to transfer them to the new PC.

> I've also backed up my favorites and my address files with this program. I
> know Vista is very different but can you give me any guidance as to how I
> might transfer these two files so that they would be usable on Vista?


Restore the file from the Win98 backup format, copy them to a CD or
thumb drive, and use that medium to transfer them to the Vista machine.


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sjh

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:08 pm
Post subject: RE: Migrating from Windows 98SE to Vista [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thank you very much for responding to my question. I had the erroneous
impression that the Millenium 9.5 editon of Lotus was the most recent version.
You asked why I would think that the MS98 backup program might work. My
point of reference comes from working with IBM mainframes where program
compatibility was an objective. A program written to work on 360
architecture in the late 1960's could be expected to work twenty year later
even though the hardware architecture went through some number of iterations
during that period. That served the interests of their customer community.
From your comment this obviously has not been the case in the world of PC's.

"sjh" wrote:

> I have several questions.
> I have just purchased a new PC with Vista Home Premium. I plan to install
> Lotus123 and Word Pro (Millenium Edition 9.5) which I've been using on my old
> PC and migrate the files that I've backed up to the new machine. These were
> backed up using the backup program that Microsoft provided with 98SE.
> Assuming that I can extract and install the backup program on the new system,
> is there any problem in doing this? Can that program be extracted? Would
> that backup program work on Vista?
> I've also backed up my favorites and my address files with this program. I
> know Vista is very different but can you give me any guidance as to how I
> might transfer these two files so that they would be usable on Vista?
> Thanks...
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Mr. Arnold

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:53 am
Post subject: Re: Migrating from Windows 98SE to Vista [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"sjh" <sjh RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA4CB803-88C1-483D-8EA1-5A68E4777EA7@microsoft.com...
> Thank you very much for responding to my question. I had the erroneous
> impression that the Millenium 9.5 editon of Lotus was the most recent
> version.
> You asked why I would think that the MS98 backup program might work. My
> point of reference comes from working with IBM mainframes where program
> compatibility was an objective. A program written to work on 360
> architecture in the late 1960's could be expected to work twenty year
> later
> even though the hardware architecture went through some number of
> iterations
> during that period. That served the interests of their customer
> community.
> From your comment this obviously has not been the case in the world of
> PC's.
>

No, PC(s) and various versions of the O/S are not the IBM 360/370 O/S(s)
running on a mainframe platform. You have to be very careful what you
install on Vista that is not Vista compliant, because it may crash Vista or
cause other applications that are running on Vista to crash. Vista does have
backwards capability setting to run a program that's is for Win 9'x, XP or
Win 2k, etc, ect, but you have to be careful.

If you must run legacy solutions the you have this option.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

Some other things you may want to look at.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=785
http://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=5175
http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/

Since you're talking IBM 360 and Windows 9'x, Windows 9'X is a root
privileged O/S and Vista is not, so you may need to be aware of things.

<http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin-Approval-Mode-in-Windows-Vista-45312.shtml>
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx

Also if the Vista O/S has been preinstalled on the computer by the
manufacture, then the very first thing you should do before you do anything
else is make those Recovery DVD(s), because you don't have an install Vista
DVD, and the only way you can install the O/S is from that Recovery DVD.

One last thing, do you see how I am reply posting to you. That is proper
etiquette in making a reply post to someone, because otherwise, the way
you're doing it, you're posting back to your original post and no marker is
in the post as to whom you are posting to, if you are replying to several
posters in the thread.
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Tulsaboyw

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Since: Aug 17, 2008
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Migrating from Windows 98SE to Vista [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Another thing to consider if you are a old mainframer like me ..is
Doing mainframe on your pc..

Hercules Mainframe Emulator (free) allows one to a certain amt of 'old
style' mainframing' And is free since IBM released the older os's to
public domain.

Its not fully usuable as a production environment though there are some
(companys & people) doing that.

Google it, there are several sites and (yahoo group forums) covering
various aspects of it.

I like in that I can actually keep up on my Cobol & PL1 & Assembler
skills despite having been laid off from programming in 2003.

Its not altogether unlikely though for him to ask if a win98 program
might work on Vista, afterall I have 4 games and 3 old programs from
Win95 that are working just fine on Vista and all of them have run on
every windows os I ever had.

But in all 7 cases these programs were self contained code, and were
very well written (yes even in the Microsoft world, there are well
written programs). None of these were graphic intensive or similar.


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