(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Kill process [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>vista>performance_maintenance (more info?)
"I may be stupid because I don't get it!"
this is probably beacuse u did not read the original post.
btw, this problem is not just restricted to firefox; other users have said
that winamp, and other apps hang on them. since i only use my laptop for work
only, i cited only firefox. u can read OTHER programs that hang for no good
reasons throughout the thread.
but to answer u properly; the problem is i CANT KILL a hung process (see
original post, and topic title). i have no problems with processes hanging,
until i used Vista, coz i cant kill em, and no kill = no restart OS.
System Spec: Duo Core 1.7GHz
Memory: 3GB
for the problem and description, it was stated in the original post. but
since im quite free now, i will describe it in greater detail:
After using firefox (or just open the browser and leave it for about
5-30mins, depending on the computer's mood), i find that i cannot surf the
web; the new pages are not displaying at all. A check at the network icon
shows that im still connected to the net.
So, browser problem right? fine. i click on the X button, and the window
closes, no visible instances of firefox running now.
then, i open another instance of firefox. it tells me that an instance is
open and so it cannot open another (or something like that) and i need to
restart/shut down my computer.
a check using Process Explorer shows that the firefox.exe is still running.
try to kill it using Process Explorer, doesnt work.
"taskkill /im <pid>" in command prompt doesnt work too. it says that the
force kill signal is sent, but the app is still running.
network problem? no. other apps, including IE still works.
so, the OS unable to force kill a process is Firefox's problem?
basically, no kill = no restart = hardware off and on = not good.
honestly, just tell me how to kill a hung process, and i'll be happy.
(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Kill process [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
=?Utf-8?B?UmlzdGFy?= <Ristar.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:8EEADBBF-F58C-4F45-97E0-94C9CB02815F@microsoft.com:
> isnt Vista pathetic?
Nope.
>
> not only does the processes hang for NO RHYME OR REASON, we have to
> depend on a 3rd party freeware to solve the problem this OS (which
> costs $$) has.
>
> lol... it's just like MS to produce such an OS. oh, and they
> conveniently dont have a bunch of people who customers can contact
> regarding their s/w problems, and we, paying customers, have to rely
> on forums.
>
> wat a joke.
Methinks you are trolling spouting garbage such as this........
>
> thanks for recommending Unlocker 1.8, i will try using it the next
> time firefox hangs to see if it works.
>
Running Vista SP1 and various flavours of linux here....never had
Firefox lock up on me in either OS.....
(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Kill process [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
thats wat u think.
firefox locks up on me for no rhyme or reason. wat trolling? this is
PERSONAL experience, for goodness sake. and right now, im damned pissed that
i have to do a hardware restart everytime firefox hangs for no good reason,
because it just wont shut down or restart.
good for u that apps dun lock up on u, if u searched around, this problem is
COMMON. jeez.
"propman" wrote:
> =?Utf-8?B?UmlzdGFy?= <Ristar.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> news:8EEADBBF-F58C-4F45-97E0-94C9CB02815F@microsoft.com:
>
> > isnt Vista pathetic?
>
> Nope.
>
> >
> > not only does the processes hang for NO RHYME OR REASON, we have to
> > depend on a 3rd party freeware to solve the problem this OS (which
> > costs $$) has.
> >
> > lol... it's just like MS to produce such an OS. oh, and they
> > conveniently dont have a bunch of people who customers can contact
> > regarding their s/w problems, and we, paying customers, have to rely
> > on forums.
> >
> > wat a joke.
>
> Methinks you are trolling spouting garbage such as this........
>
>
> >
> > thanks for recommending Unlocker 1.8, i will try using it the next
> > time firefox hangs to see if it works.
> >
>
> Running Vista SP1 and various flavours of linux here....never had
> Firefox lock up on me in either OS.....
>
>
>
(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Kill process [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Ristar" <Ristar DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8E3F44A4-9FB6-4BCA-B6A7-75AA2C319425@microsoft.com...
> "I may be stupid because I don't get it!"
>
> this is probably beacuse u did not read the original post.
>
> btw, this problem is not just restricted to firefox; other users have said
> that winamp, and other apps hang on them. since i only use my laptop for
> work
> only, i cited only firefox. u can read OTHER programs that hang for no
> good
> reasons throughout the thread.
(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Kill process [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
yes. process explorer, taskkill /F /PID, and task manager ALL doesnt work.
"Gordon" wrote:
> "Ristar" <Ristar.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8E3F44A4-9FB6-4BCA-B6A7-75AA2C319425@microsoft.com...
> > "I may be stupid because I don't get it!"
> >
> > this is probably beacuse u did not read the original post.
> >
> > btw, this problem is not just restricted to firefox; other users have said
> > that winamp, and other apps hang on them. since i only use my laptop for
> > work
> > only, i cited only firefox. u can read OTHER programs that hang for no
> > good
> > reasons throughout the thread.
>
> Have you tried Process Explorer?
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx >
>
(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:09 am
Post subject: Re: Kill process [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Ristar wrote:
> "I may be stupid because I don't get it!"
>
> this is probably beacuse u did not read the original post.
>
> btw, this problem is not just restricted to firefox; other users have said
> that winamp, and other apps hang on them. since i only use my laptop for work
> only, i cited only firefox. u can read OTHER programs that hang for no good
> reasons throughout the thread.
>
> but to answer u properly; the problem is i CANT KILL a hung process (see
> original post, and topic title). i have no problems with processes hanging,
> until i used Vista, coz i cant kill em, and no kill = no restart OS.
>
> System Spec: Duo Core 1.7GHz
> Memory: 3GB
>
>
> for the problem and description, it was stated in the original post. but
> since im quite free now, i will describe it in greater detail:
>
> After using firefox (or just open the browser and leave it for about
> 5-30mins, depending on the computer's mood), i find that i cannot surf the
> web; the new pages are not displaying at all. A check at the network icon
> shows that im still connected to the net.
>
> So, browser problem right? fine. i click on the X button, and the window
> closes, no visible instances of firefox running now.
>
> then, i open another instance of firefox. it tells me that an instance is
> open and so it cannot open another (or something like that) and i need to
> restart/shut down my computer.
>
> a check using Process Explorer shows that the firefox.exe is still running.
> try to kill it using Process Explorer, doesnt work.
> "taskkill /im <pid>" in command prompt doesnt work too. it says that the
> force kill signal is sent, but the app is still running.
>
> network problem? no. other apps, including IE still works.
>
> so, the OS unable to force kill a process is Firefox's problem?
>
>
> basically, no kill = no restart = hardware off and on = not good.
>
>
>
> honestly, just tell me how to kill a hung process, and i'll be happy.
This is not so much a hung process, but something is holding Firefox
open (as viewed as still there in Task Manager). This was a problem
back in one of the iterations of v2.x. What version are you now
running? 3.2.3 is the latest. Try closing some of the other tray icons
that maybe holding it open. Like I found a setting in Skype that holds
Outlook open in the background. It will be a third party, NOT Vista at
fault
If you use Task Manager and then highlight the firefox that is still
there and then click END PROCESS, you will get a warning but it should
close.
(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:09 am
Post subject: Re: Kill process [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Frenchy" <invalid.DeleteThis@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:gbr7ki$sla$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> This is not so much a hung process, but something is holding Firefox open
> (as viewed as still there in Task Manager). This was a problem back in
> one of the iterations of v2.x. What version are you now running? 3.2.3
> is the latest.
(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:09 am
Post subject: Re: Kill process [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
hmm... i didnt know about that..
anyway, im using Firefox 3.0.3.. im one of those that likes to keep stuff
updated.
using Task Manager, firefox.exe is listed under Processes.
im running pretty "cleanly", i think, considering that this laptop isnt the
brightest bulb in the block...
my current processes are (using Process Explorer):
under wininit.exe, a few svchost.exe, drivers for audio, VMware stuff,
mdm.exe, antivirus, zone alarm stuff, and the usual stuff...
for those under explorer.exe... other than the usual stuff like Windows
Defender, Audio ctrl panel, antivirus, synaptics touchpad, VM Hqtray i have:
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