(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:17 pm
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"+Bob+" wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:49:01 -0700, LeftFoot
> <LeftFoot DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Please post back with what you learn. I can tell you for certain that the
> >user level power settings in XP and Vista are definitely not enough to keep
> >the NIC alive if it was primed to power down when "not being used". And the
> >OS will wait and wait and wait for response from hardware (or its driver).
> >
> >Here's hoping!
>
> Solved it! I want to post my thanks for your pointer to the net card
> power settings. I had already set the Power Settings for windows to
> Maximize performance of the net card. This was based on a KB I found
> at MS regarding using Vista connected to a router which might not
> understand the "latest" power protocols (something to do with packets
> being queued and/or sent while the net card has gone idle).
>
> Despite the fact that the KB indicated that changing this setting
> would cure the problem (the inference being that the card would stay
> alive), it doesn't do the trick. However, going into device manager
> and manually telling the card it isn't allowed to power down does
> apparently cure it.
>
> I don't know if it's a hardware issue (card ignoring the Vista
> setting) or a software issue (Vista setting not working), but direct
> access to the driver settings does fix it! I still get a slight delay
> after sign-on when the icons go blank, but now it recovers.
>
> It's worth noting that I did make the same change in XP and it never
> cured the problem but at least XP didn't do a system hang.
>
> Thanks again,
>
I'm very glad to read this.
I think that Microsoft with Vista, and even XP, have done a pretty good job
of trying to deal with issues like this. I suspect that it's the drivers from
some vendors that fall short. I never see this sort of issue with recent
drivers / hardware from Intel, for instance. With other vendors it seems to
be a model by model thing. Some work, and some don't.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:10 pm
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:56 am
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"+Bob+" <uctraing.TakeThisOut@ultranet.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:29:01 -0700, LeftFoot
> <LeftFoot.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I'm very glad to read this.
>>
>>I think that Microsoft with Vista, and even XP, have done a pretty good
>>job
>>of trying to deal with issues like this. I suspect that it's the drivers
>>from
>>some vendors that fall short. I never see this sort of issue with recent
>>drivers / hardware from Intel, for instance. With other vendors it seems
>>to
>>be a model by model thing. Some work, and some don't.
>>
>>I'm glad you got some satisfaction on the issue.
>
> I agree that it might be the drivers - but Vista, even worse than
> earlier versions of Windows, hangs too often. For example, if you do
> something like disable your wireless and enable your hardwire
> ethernet, most any Vista system it will hang and you will end up doing
> a hard boot. Or, try hooking up to a network, going to standby (close
> cover) and then travel with your laptop to a new physical locations
> (e.g. Starbucks). When you restart, it's again hard-boot time. You can
> get into the same dilemma when a share you are connected to goes down.
>
> It's not unreasonable that Vista has issues with physical network
> changes, but it is unreasonable that it hangs in these situations.
> There should be timeouts built in that prevent these system hangs.
> While this has always been a problem in Windows, Vista seems to be
> much worse than earlier OS's.
Thanks for starting this thread, as your mention of the nic power settings
might indeed be the cause. I don't have a server setup, just a; 1 vista, 3
xp & 1 linux p to p configuration. I am only having the problem from the
vista machine. I periodically lose connection to the xp machine which has my
printers connected.
David
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