Computer running SOOOO SLOW

"Denise" <denise.RemoveThis@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> "Brian Cryer" <www.cryer.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Brian Cryer" <www.cryer.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> "Denise" <denise.RemoveThis@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OtzLj75sIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> i've been running my computer pretty much without problems. Recently I
>>>> have noticed a real slow down in performance. I currently have Spybot
>>>> S&D, and the purchased version of AVG installed. Thinking that perhaps
>>>> one of these programs may be causing some kind of problem, I disabled
>>>> both of them, but to no avail.
>>>> I run spyware searches and virus searches daily, which never really
>>>> show up any thing of concern. I delete cookies etc on a daily basis
>>>> too. My computer doesnt need defragged.
>>>> Could anyone give me any ideas as to what could be slowing it down so
>>>> much.
>>>> I tried to access my company site to process some work stuff and it
>>>> took forever and a day to load what would normally be a couple of
>>>> seconds.
>>>> My computer is only about 8 months old, Intel Core Duo CPU, Memory
>>>> 2047MB, 32 Bit O.S, with a Windows experience Index rating of 5.5.
>>>> Any help or advice greatly appreciated, P.S, running Vista
>>>> Professional.
>>>>
>>>> Denise
>>>
>>> Just some thoughts:
>>>
>>> 1. Start "task manager", on the "Performance tab" how much memory is it
>>> currently using? This may give you an indication whether its time to
>>> upgrade your RAM.
>>>
>>> 2. Download ccleaner. Its free, and let it clean out your registry. Its
>>> amazing what junk can accumulte - especially if you've uninstalled any
>>> applications.
>>>
>>> 3. Uninstall any toolbars you may have, such as the google or yahoo
>>> toolbars.
>>>
>>> 4. Again using task manager, look at what applications are currently
>>> running on your pc. Consider whether you can uninstall any of these.
>>> Things that you have installed but aren't actually running aren't an
>>> issue here, its what applications are always taking up RAM.
>>>
>>> 5. Have you installed the vista service pack? I didn't notice any
>>> difference, but there are supposed to be performance enhancements there.
>>>
>>> 6. Look in the windows event log - the system log in particular. There
>>> will be lots of messages there, most of which you can safely ignore.
>>> What is of interest is whether there are any disk errors being
>>> recorded - slow performance can be caused by disk problems. Its unlikely
>>> given the reliability of disks but if there are any errors then that is
>>> where they will be recorded.
>>>
>>> 7. Run "Command Prompt" as administrator and type "chkdsk c: /f" and
>>> when its convenient reboot. This will do a disk check the next time you
>>> reboot, the check is checking the logical file consistency. It may turn
>>> up a few bits, that's not uncommon, but unless there are serious
>>> problems (again unlikely) its probably not the cause of your performance
>>> woes, but good to eliminate.
>>>
>>> 8. Again using "Task manager", look on the "Processes" tab, click "Show
>>> processes from all users" and then click the heading "CPU" to order on
>>> CPU usage. Are there any processes (other than "System Idle Process")
>>> which are taking up a lot of CPU time? If there are then that may be why
>>> your pc feels slow.
>>>
>>> 9. Does your PC still feel slow if you are not running any mail tool?
>>>
>>> Thats all I can think of for now. Hope something makes a difference.
>>
>> Another thought, with "Task manager, on the "Performance" tab click on
>> [Resource Monitor...]. When the PC feels slow look at the "Resource
>> monitor" display and if you click on CPU, Disk, Network or Memory it will
>> show you what the peak tasks are. If there is a particular task which is
>> causing a problem then hopefully you should be able to spot it.
>> --
>> Brian Cryer
>> www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>>
>
> Hi there again,
>
> thanks again, all your advice which has been greatly appreciated.
>
> I thought I'd do a restart after using the ccleaner. The CPU indicator
> was idling at about 15 to 20%, now its seems to be between 0 & 5%, which
> seems much more reasonable. When I mentioned about it hitting 100% when
> visiting web pages, it was actually staying in the 100% until I shut the
> web page. Now it seems again to be more as it should be because it comes
> right back down after a few seconds.
>
> It does seem to be running a bit faster, but logging into MSN etc takes a
> while for email to load etc, and pages that I try to load on the web still
> take longer than usual, but there is a definate improvement.
>
> The computer, as I mentioned is only 8 months old, and used primarily by
> myself (my daughters use wireless laptops). I know computers slow down
> after a while which is normal, but the performance of my computer is far
> inferior to the performance of my daughters laptops, which are used to
> download and visit sites such as bebo etc and are always downloading
> applications to add to it, they seem to zip through pages with ease.
>
> One thing I noticed is that I have the Microsoft Toolbar, the Google
> Toolbar and now the Yahoo Toolbar (which came with CCleaner), is it an
> easy process to cancel these additional toolbars, and would it have an
> affect on the CCleaner. Would this also perhaps have any effect with the
> performance??
>
> Once again Many Thanks
>
> Denise

On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:25:16 +0100, "Denise" <denise.RemoveThis@microsoft.com>
wrote:

>The computer, as I mentioned is only 8 months old, and used primarily by
>myself (my daughters use wireless laptops). I know computers slow down
>after a while which is normal,

No it's not. Only if something is wrong with it, is it "normal".

> but the performance of my computer is far
>inferior to the performance of my daughters laptops, which are used to
>download and visit sites such as bebo etc and are always downloading
>applications to add to it, they seem to zip through pages with ease.

You need to take it into a shop, or you need to restore it to it's
original factory condition and begin all over again.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:19:43 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

>On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:25:16 +0100, "Denise" <denise.RemoveThis@microsoft.com>
>wrote:
>
>> I know computers slow down
>> after a while which is normal,
>
>
>No, it's entirely *abnormal*. If that's what's happening to your
>computer, it means that you are improperly maintaining it.

Oh wow, another great MVP non answer. You suggesting she take her
computer into the shop for a oil change? Maybe the tires need to be
rotated?

Pray tell what "improper maintaining" did she do?

Personal Computers can slow down when you install Windows on them.
That's the kiss of death. So many things can cause a slow down it
would be impossible to list them all.

Something misconfigured, missing, altered or corrupt in the Registry.

Memory leak, driver not loading, Windows keeps trying to load it.

Depleted System Resources (common if computer left running for a long
time without rebooting)

System doing "housecleaning"

System indexing.

Some anti-virus running.

Defragemention in process.

Trojan has hijacked your computer and somebody else has taken control
of it by remote control to use in a networked denial of service
attack. More common than you think.

And about 200 other reasons.

The OP gets told to take it into a shop or she didn't do proper
maintaining.

This backward, often retarded newsgroup is priceless, but useful only
for it's entertainment value.

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:19:43 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake.DeleteThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:25:16 +0100, "Denise" <denise.DeleteThis@microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know computers slow down
>>> after a while which is normal,
>>
>> No, it's entirely *abnormal*. If that's what's happening to your
>> computer, it means that you are improperly maintaining it.
>
> Oh wow, another great MVP non answer. You suggesting she take her
> computer into the shop for a oil change? Maybe the tires need to be
> rotated?
>
> Pray tell what "improper maintaining" did she do?

Here you embicle

http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html
>
> Personal Computers can slow down when you install Windows on them.
> That's the kiss of death. So many things can cause a slow down it
> would be impossible to list them all.

So?

>
> Something misconfigured, missing, altered or corrupt in the Registry.

No
>
> Memory leak, driver not loading, Windows keeps trying to load it.

No
>
> Depleted System Resources (common if computer left running for a long
> time without rebooting)

No
>
> System doing "housecleaning"

No
>
> System indexing.
No
>
> Some anti-virus running.

No
>
> Defragemention in process.

No
>
> Trojan has hijacked your computer and somebody else has taken control
> of it by remote control to use in a networked denial of service
> attack. More common than you think.

You don't know what a DOs is about.
>
> And about 200 other reasons.
>
No
> The OP gets told to take it into a shop or she didn't do proper
> maintaining.
>

It's sound advice, and besides, you're just flapping you gums as usual.

> This backward, often retarded newsgroup is priceless, but useful only
> for it's entertainment value.
>

You're not useful and your lip drivel is entertainment. You're just a
moron plain and simple. No one should listen to you or take your advise.
It's not priceless and heavy on the worthlessness.

You should turn in your computer and just leave, because you are sick.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 23:37:58 -0400, ????What <What?@Wha???t.com>
wrote:

>You should turn in your computer and just leave, because you are sick.

And you are another troll feeder.

Buh-bye

Denise;824731 Wrote:
> Hi,
> i've been running my computer pretty much without problems. Recently I
> have
> noticed a real slow down in performance. I currently have Spybot S&D,
> and
> the purchased version of AVG installed. Thinking that perhaps one of
> these
> programs may be causing some kind of problem, I disabled both of them,
> but
> to no avail.
> I run spyware searches and virus searches daily, which never really
> show up
> any thing of concern. I delete cookies etc on a daily basis too. My
> computer doesnt need defragged.
> Could anyone give me any ideas as to what could be slowing it down so
> much.
> I tried to access my company site to process some work stuff and it
> took
> forever and a day to load what would normally be a couple of seconds.
> My computer is only about 8 months old, Intel Core Duo CPU, Memory
> 2047MB,
> 32 Bit O.S, with a Windows experience Index rating of 5.5.
> Any help or advice greatly appreciated, P.S, running Vista
> Professional.
>
> Denise
Denise,
First of all, Happy Mothers Day whether you have kids or not.
I have a couple of comments/recommendations pertaining to your
problems:
A. First, any version of Windows prepares and stores temporary files
for
many reasons and and has no great tool to remove them even when they
are no
longer required. Do these things in the order I list them:
a. Close any programs you have running THEN left click "Computer" on
your
Desktop. When that opens, right click your main drive icon (usually
"C")
then left click "Properties" at the bottom of the Context Menu. When
that
opens, left click "Disk Cleanup" mid-way down the "General" Tab and let
it
do the job it is intended to accomplish.
b. Download and install "CCleaner" from here:
'http://www.ccleaner.com/' (http://tinyurl.com/4dt8oq) .
Once it installs, make only one change to the default options which
contain
check marks. That is, insert a check mark in the box beside the
Advanced
option "old Prefetch data" THEN left click "Run Cleaner" and "OK" the
"are
you sure" box.
c. IMO Spybot is not sufficient to keep spyware and malware off your
computer. IF you do not already have "Windows Defender", download and
install it from here:
'http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx'
(http://tinyurl.com/3wodma) . Be
certain you keep it on your "Start" Menu. After installation, update it
first then scan your entire computer. If any malware/spyware is
identified, UNLESS you are certain there is a legitimate reason to keep
it let the program delete/quarantine it. Frankly, many regard Windows
Defender as not the best identifier/remover of spyware/malware; however,
it is free and is regarded as a great blocker of spyware/malware (that
is the reason for it to be on your Start Menu). If you wish to spend
money on better spyware programs, look at CounterSpy, Webroots
SpySweeper, or Spyware Doctor plus there are others.
Gene K


--
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