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andy t

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:31 am
Post subject: Backup files with Windows defender or Norton??
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Hello, am I right in saying windows defender can back up your files, at the
moment I have the norton control for backup files as "off", do I need both of
them for this purpose or will they conflict??
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:40 pm
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"andy t" <andyt RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:680E89E6-B7F2-425C-996C-8AA762DB62B0@microsoft.com...
> Hello, am I right in saying windows defender can back up your files, at
> the
> moment I have the norton control for backup files as "off", do I need both
> of
> them for this purpose or will they conflict??
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> andy t


Windows defender is NOT a backup utility.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:14 pm
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"Gordon" <gordonbparker DeleteThis @yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

> Windows defender is NOT a backup utility.

It is an anti-spyware program. Still, Windows Vista has a built in Backup
and Restore Center which you can use if you do not fancy the Norton
application.

Windows Vista - Backup and Restore FAQ:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9eb3d150-fe33-41a0...f6-233d

Using Windows Defender:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/4ef8da25-133e-4947...c1-5c79

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:50 pm
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Windows Defender is not a backup application, it is simply an
anti-spyware/malware application.

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"andy t" <andyt.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello, am I right in saying windows defender can back up your files, at
> the
> moment I have the norton control for backup files as "off", do I need both
> of
> them for this purpose or will they conflict??
> --
> andy t
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:28 pm
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Thanks for your replies guys, as I said, my Norton settings are showing that
my "backup files" setting, is set to off. What is your advice on this,
should I back them up? And if I do, will it slow down the workings of my PC?

Thanks again
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andy t


"John MVP" wrote:

> Windows Defender is not a backup application, it is simply an
> anti-spyware/malware application.
>
> --
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail/post..
>
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> "andy t" <andyt.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:680E89E6-B7F2-425C-996C-8AA762DB62B0@microsoft.com...
> > Hello, am I right in saying windows defender can back up your files, at
> > the
> > moment I have the norton control for backup files as "off", do I need both
> > of
> > them for this purpose or will they conflict??
> > --
> > andy t
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:27 pm
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andy t wrote:
> Hello, am I right in saying windows defender can back up your files, at the
> moment I have the norton control for backup files as "off", do I need both of
> them for this purpose or will they conflict??


Andy,
if you are referring to *SCANNING* backup archives, you can enable both
apps to scan. There are drawbacks to this, such as scanning speed, etc.
Whether or not backups need to be scanned is another question.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:44 pm
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"andy t" <andyt.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your replies guys, as I said, my Norton settings are
> showing that my "backup files" setting, is set to off. What is your
> advice on this, should I back them up?

You should *always* back up. Schedule regular backups of your files.
Consider making disk image backups as well (backup the entire disk so that
it can be restored in case of a disk crash or a malware infestation).

As for what backup tool to use, it is for you to decide. Norton will backup
up things just fine, and so will Vista. The disk imaging part depends on
what Vista edition or Norton program you have. Vista Business and Ultimate
can do it.

> And if I do, will it slow down the workings of my PC?

Sorry to say, but yes. Backups involve a lot of disk reading, writing and
caching, and it will keep your system busy. Schedule backups to run at
night, or some other time when you do not use the computer.

In my experience, Norton products are worse in this respect than Vista
itself or other products, but that is just a general remark. You may not
notice any difference between them.

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andy t

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:48 am
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I am beginning to understand now, I accidentally clicked on something
recently, so I went to "system restore" went back a couple of days, and it
restored the problem. I think I am I right in saying that it backs up files
for so many days, and automatically terminates the old ones so as to free up
disk space, perhaps you can confirm this to me Guy's.

I have Windows Vista Home Premium and Norton 360 version 2.O. What are "disk
image backups" and how do you perform them? My Norton shows that it is
disabled and say's "your scheduled automatic backups are currently turned
off".

As I said, my scheduled automatic backups are working anyway, and if I open
the Norton backup as well, will this not clog up the system more? I know
when opening it, it will show me a list of the files to be backed up, and as
you said, scan everything.

Finally, you mentioned that the "Norton antivirus" package is one of the
worst, why is it? And what would be a more suitable replacement?
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andy t


"Charlie42" wrote:

> "andy t" <andyt DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your replies guys, as I said, my Norton settings are
> > showing that my "backup files" setting, is set to off. What is your
> > advice on this, should I back them up?
>
> You should *always* back up. Schedule regular backups of your files.
> Consider making disk image backups as well (backup the entire disk so that
> it can be restored in case of a disk crash or a malware infestation).
>
> As for what backup tool to use, it is for you to decide. Norton will backup
> up things just fine, and so will Vista. The disk imaging part depends on listening
> what Vista edition or Norton program you have. Vista Business and Ultimate
> can do it.
>
> > And if I do, will it slow down the workings of my PC?
>
> Sorry to say, but yes. Backups involve a lot of disk reading, writing and
> caching, and it will keep your system busy. Schedule backups to run at
> night, or some other time when you do not use the computer.
>
> In my experience, Norton products are worse in this respect than Vista
> itself or other products, but that is just a general remark. You may not
> notice any difference between them.
>
> Charlie42
>
>
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