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Enough 3rd-party apps to make 64bit Vista worthwhile?

 
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Mark Conrad

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:54 pm
Post subject: Enough 3rd-party apps to make 64bit Vista worthwhile?
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I have been considering switching to 64 bit Vista.

Would anyone please list a few of the pros and cons?

Here presently running 32 bit Vista on Mac hardware.

My main app is Dragon NaturallySpeaking. (medical)

Think I will check their website to see if they plan
to grind out a 64 bit version of Dragon.

Really just interested whether or not a lot of
mainstream "general" apps are available yet.

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Mark Conrad

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Enough 3rd-party apps to make 64bit Vista worthwhile? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article
<noneof-A7C7A2.18543014082008.RemoveThis@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Mark Conrad <noneof.RemoveThis@urbusiness.invalid> wrote:

> I have been considering switching to 64 bit Vista.
>
> Would anyone please list a few of the pros and cons?
>
> Here presently running 32 bit Vista on Mac hardware.
>
> My main app is Dragon NaturallySpeaking. (medical)
>
> Think I will check their website to see if they plan
> to grind out a 64 bit version of Dragon.
>
> Really just interested whether or not a lot of
> mainstream "general" apps are available yet.
>
> Mark-


Phooey, out of luck, Nuance has no plans to create
a 64 bit version of Dragon, oh well...

Mark-

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Phillips

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:00 am
Post subject: Re: Enough 3rd-party apps to make 64bit Vista worthwhile? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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If you have the money, you can build a nice (lots of RAM) Vista 64-bit PC
and then run virtual machines w/ a 32-bit OS.
Otherwise, not yet... and probably it will take a couple of years till
64-bit CPUs will become mainstream so that there will be some incentives for
software companies to produce competitive 64-bit applications.
Michael


"Mark Conrad" <noneof RemoveThis @urbusiness.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I have been considering switching to 64 bit Vista.
>
> Would anyone please list a few of the pros and cons?
>
> Here presently running 32 bit Vista on Mac hardware.
>
> My main app is Dragon NaturallySpeaking. (medical)
>
> Think I will check their website to see if they plan
> to grind out a 64 bit version of Dragon.
>
> Really just interested whether or not a lot of
> mainstream "general" apps are available yet.
>
> Mark-
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Mark Conrad

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:00 am
Post subject: Re: Enough 3rd-party apps to make 64bit Vista worthwhile? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <2F0F8D1E-2DCA-404A-AE29-9FF5044367AB.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com>,
"Phillips" <afn18721.TakeThisOut@afn.org> wrote:

> If you have the money, you can build a nice (lots of RAM) Vista 64-bit PC
> and then run virtual machines w/ a 32-bit OS.
> Otherwise, not yet... and probably it will take a couple of years till
> 64-bit CPUs will become mainstream so that there will be some incentives for
> software companies to produce competitive 64-bit applications.
> Michael

Thanks, that is what I wanted to find out.

Guess like most others I will wait, except for
possibly a little "dabbling" to see how difficult
it is to install/run a 64 bit OS.

Appears to be a catch-22 situation, users not
switching, therefore no incentive to create software.

Mark-
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Curious

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:15 am
Post subject: Re: Enough 3rd-party apps to make 64bit Vista worthwhile? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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AFAIK 32bit programs run in Vista 64 just as fast as they do in 32 bit.
However, Since Vista 64 itself is a 64 bit program all OS functions run
faster. You can also fully support 4GB or more memory with Vista 64.
"Mark Conrad" <noneof.RemoveThis@urbusiness.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <2F0F8D1E-2DCA-404A-AE29-9FF5044367AB.RemoveThis@microsoft.com>,
> "Phillips" <afn18721.RemoveThis@afn.org> wrote:
>
>> If you have the money, you can build a nice (lots of RAM) Vista 64-bit PC
>> and then run virtual machines w/ a 32-bit OS.
>> Otherwise, not yet... and probably it will take a couple of years till
>> 64-bit CPUs will become mainstream so that there will be some incentives
>> for
>> software companies to produce competitive 64-bit applications.
>> Michael
>
> Thanks, that is what I wanted to find out.
>
> Guess like most others I will wait, except for
> possibly a little "dabbling" to see how difficult
> it is to install/run a 64 bit OS.
>
> Appears to be a catch-22 situation, users not
> switching, therefore no incentive to create software.
>
> Mark-
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Mike Hall - MVP

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:29 am
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"Mark Conrad" <noneof DeleteThis @urbusiness.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I have been considering switching to 64 bit Vista.
>
> Would anyone please list a few of the pros and cons?
>
> Here presently running 32 bit Vista on Mac hardware.
>
> My main app is Dragon NaturallySpeaking. (medical)
>
> Think I will check their website to see if they plan
> to grind out a 64 bit version of Dragon.
>
> Really just interested whether or not a lot of
> mainstream "general" apps are available yet.
>
> Mark-


Many applications would not benefit from being 64bit, but eventually they
will be converted if only to put 32bit to sleep forever.. presently, there
is little or no incentive to do this..


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Mark Conrad

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:29 am
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In article <#VR3zrt$IHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall.TakeThisOut@remove_mvps.com> wrote:

> Many applications would not benefit from being 64bit,
> but eventually they will be converted if only to put
> 32bit to sleep forever.. presently, there
> is little or no incentive to do this..

Thanks for that info'.

I guess I will experiment with 64 bit a little, if for
no other reason than I can say that I am doing my part
to encourage its adoption.

Meanwhile, I have to put up with my Mac friends yapping
about how they have had it for years now. grrr

Mark-
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Mark Conrad

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Enough 3rd-party apps to make 64bit Vista worthwhile? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <00C1CFD7-C68A-44F3-99EF-92C5EA34EE11.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com>,
"Curious" <<spammenot.TakeThisOut@nomail.com>> wrote:

> AFAIK 32bit programs run in Vista 64 just as fast
> as they do in 32 bit.

Yeah, I guess that is correct about most 32 bit mainstream
applications, however I suspect that next-to-the-metal
32-bit _utilities_ will refuse to run on a 64-bit OS...

....UNLESS the underlying PC hardware is all 64-bit :-\


Hmm, that brings up another question, namely how
difficult is it to buy a 64-bit computer in todays
PC market that is designed to run Windows OSs ?

It would be terrible if we had to buy a 64-bit Mac
just to run a Vista 64-bit OS Wink Wink Wink

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