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hmmm

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:17 pm
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David H. Lipman

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:51 pm
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From: <hmmm>

| A list of virus scanning sites was previously posted to alt.comp.freeware
| (see below). I've been using the main ones (Jotti and Virustotal for
| years). Do all these sites provide this service to get fees from the
| major AV program players, and to submit the stats (and file samples) to the
| various program manufacturers?

| In a similar vein, I'm guessing that's the reason for all the free versions
| of AV programs (and Avira's premium offers every so often). In addition to
| getting potential paying customers, they also benefit from that many more
| samples sent in by users. This helps them fine tune the definition files
| and attempt to be the first kid on the block with the scan alert.

| That said, how many programs not only find the virus but clean the file and
| whatever registry strings have been added? If you look at the part of the
| Symantec site which describes the trojans/viruses, the manual cleaning area
| is very specific and detailed. I know that most of us have criticized
| Norton in the past for it's heavy CPU use, but from all reports they've
| taken steps to reduce it. In addition, AV-Comparatives consisently has it
| rated as one of the best and that Symantec site is still the bible in
| figuring out how to manually clean an infection (other than getting advice
| from Wilders).


| (I'm taking the liberty of crossposting this to alt.comp.anti-virus to
| increase the number of comments as I normally would have asked this there).

| Thanks to Sysinternals' light whois program for making it easy to find this
| info. Their search has improved greatly over the last few months. I used
| to constantly get messages that indicated the site wasn't in the db or it
| just hung and returned a general "couldn't find" message.


I'm sorry I don't get the question.

BTW: ANUBIS is NOT a virus scanner.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:51 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:51 pm
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hmmm wrote in news:rpGdnRwY9O90rN3UnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@giganews.com:

> A list of virus scanning sites was previously posted to
> alt.comp.freeware (see below). I've been using the main ones (Jotti
> and Virustotal for years). Do all these sites provide this service
> to get fees from the major AV program players, and to submit the stats
> (and file samples) to the various program manufacturers?
>
> In a similar vein, I'm guessing that's the reason for all the free
> versions of AV programs (and Avira's premium offers every so often).
> In addition to getting potential paying customers, they also benefit
> from that many more samples sent in by users. This helps them fine
> tune the definition files and attempt to be the first kid on the block
> with the scan alert.
>
> That said, how many programs not only find the virus but clean the
> file and whatever registry strings have been added? If you look at
> the part of the Symantec site which describes the trojans/viruses, the
> manual cleaning area is very specific and detailed. I know that most
> of us have criticized Norton in the past for it's heavy CPU use, but
> from all reports they've taken steps to reduce it. In addition,
> AV-Comparatives consisently has it rated as one of the best and that
> Symantec site is still the bible in figuring out how to manually clean
> an infection (other than getting advice from Wilders).
>
>
> (I'm taking the liberty of crossposting this to alt.comp.anti-virus to
> increase the number of comments as I normally would have asked this
> there).
>
> Thanks to Sysinternals' light whois program for making it easy to find
> this info. Their search has improved greatly over the last few
> months. I used to constantly get messages that indicated the site
> wasn't in the db or it just hung and returned a general "couldn't
> find" message.
>
>> Anubis: http://anubis.iseclab.org
>
> Tech Organization:Secure Systems Lab
> Tech Street1:Route des Cretes
> Tech City:Sophia Antipolis
> Tech State/Province:
> Tech Postal Code:06560
>
>
>> Jotti's malware scan: http://virusscan.jotti.org
>
> Registrant Organization:Jotti
> Registrant Street1:Waardweg 12
> Registrant City:Rheden
> Registrant State/Province:
> Registrant Postal Code:6991VB
> Registrant Country:NL
>
>> Virus.org: http://scanner.virus.org
>
> Registrant Organization:Virus.Org
> Registrant Street1:15 Elm Lodge
> Registrant Street2:75 Stevenage Road
> Registrant City:London
> Registrant State/Province:
> Registrant Postal Code:SW6 6NZ
> Registrant Country:ZW
> Tech Organization:Fountainhead Industries
> Tech Street1:PO Box U227
> Tech Street2:University of Wollongong
> Tech Street3:
> Tech City:Wollongong
> Tech State/Province:New South Wales
>
>
>
>> VirSCAN.org: http://www.virscan.org
>
> egistrant Organization:liu yang
> egistrant Street1:Fengtai Qu Cao qiao dong lu 8 hao yuan 8 hao lou
> 2103 shi egistrant Street2:
> egistrant Street3:
> egistrant City:Beijing
> egistrant State/Province:Beijing
> egistrant Postal Code:100000
> egistrant Country:CN
>
>
>>virustotal.com
>
> Hispasec Sistemas
> Edificio Bic Euronova
> Parque Tecnologico Andalucia, Malaga 29590
> ES
> 902161025
>
>
>

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:10 pm
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in news:f72dnfy-
Yr9CpN3UnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d DeleteThis @giganews.com:

>
> I'm sorry I don't get the question.

It was not a question

Merry Christmas
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:18 pm
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In article <f72dnfy-Yr9CpN3UnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d.DeleteThis@giganews.com>,
DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net says...

I use Multi-AV every now and then, along with Avira... Avira being the
resident anti-virus. I like the Sophos, Trend Micro (I've used Trend
Micro for years), and Kaspersky combo, but downloading the KAV stuff is
a real pain in the arse. Is there another way to get the updated
definitions, without having to download these files ONE AT A TIME? Maybe
an all-in-one file? Thanks.

Al
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:17 pm
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From: <hmmm>


| In other words, I'm asking if it's correct that these sites are either non-
| profit organizations or profit making ventures, and that there must be some
| fee provided by the AV vendors in order for them to be maintained - and

| are the results of their scans forwarded to the vendors of those scanning
| engines used (I'm assuming that all the programs used on those sites have
| been donated).

They are not for profit. The results of their scans are NOT forwarded to participating AV
vendors the samples are forwarded to participating AV vendors.

I again state that ANUBIS is not an virus scanning site.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:28 pm
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From: "AlleyCat" <al DeleteThis @aohell.com>

| In article <f72dnfy-Yr9CpN3UnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d DeleteThis @giganews.com>,
| DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net says...

| I use Multi-AV every now and then, along with Avira... Avira being the
| resident anti-virus. I like the Sophos, Trend Micro (I've used Trend
| Micro for years), and Kaspersky combo, but downloading the KAV stuff is
| a real pain in the arse. Is there another way to get the updated
| definitions, without having to download these files ONE AT A TIME? Maybe
| an all-in-one file? Thanks.

| Al

You might find them here...
ftp://updates2.kaspersky-labs.com/

The advantage of the way I do it it in the Multi AV is that it only downloads the updated
files.

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Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
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