(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:58 pm
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>>
>
> I've never had a problem removing pre-installed stuff, including Norton
> (2002 version). I use zone alarm and avast. Avast has an annoying problem
> that sometimes prevents winxp from shutting down without manually killing
> the process and I can't seem to fix it.
> Can one still get new machines with winxp. My scanner isn't going to work
> under vista.
> Dave Cohen
The answer seems to be yes, if you're quick
Both Dabs and e-buyer have HP and Acer computers with XP
Buying XP for the same reason, neither my scanner or printer will work under
Vista
(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:52 am
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"Retired" <anon.DeleteThis@privacy.com> wrote in message
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>
> Can one still get new machines with winxp. My scanner isn't going to work
>> under vista.
>> Dave Cohen
>
> The answer seems to be yes, if you're quick
> Both Dabs and e-buyer have HP and Acer computers with XP
> Buying XP for the same reason, neither my scanner or printer will work
> under Vista
>
> Retired
>
Am buying a laptop from the below firm. They seem to sell PC's with and
without an OS.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:26 am
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"Buffalo" <Eric RemoveThis @nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Jim wrote:
> [snip]
>> In my case, the first step failed. The second step removed it
>> although there still remained a folder and some files. I just
>> renamed the files. After a few days, when nothing bad happened, I
>> deleted the folder.
>>
>> The computer does seem to run faster now.
>>
>> Jim
>
> Well, I'm curious.
> Did it run faster after you uninstalled Norton, or after you deleted the
> renamed files and the folder they were in?
> I would think the former.
> If you had trouble removing Norton completely, don't ever try to uninstall
> ZoneAlarm. >
>
>
It ran faster after I uninstalled Norton. The files in the left over folder
were not accessed after Norton left.
(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:13 pm
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It's really not as easy as that.
Symantec has a bad habit of putting files all over your disks and you need
to manually delete any files you find after removing the program using the
add/remove program and the Norton removal tool has done its thing.
After all that you should run a registry program and the defrag because
there will be more troubles caused by Norton programs.
Be sure to back up the registry before doing anything there.
Regards,
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> "Retired" <anon.DeleteThis@privacy.com> wrote in message
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>>I am buying a new computer (with XP, not Vista!) which has a 3 month
>>trial of Norton pre-installed.
>> I have always found Avast to be satisfactory, and see no reason to change
>> and will want to totally remove Norton from the machine.
>> Friends tell me this is virtually impossible - even once uninstalled, it
>> pops up from time to time.
>> Any advice or comments please for a pensioner who is not a computer
>> expert.
>>
>> Retired
>>
> The instructions from Symantec state you first try to remove it from
> add/remove in the control panel. If it still
> remains, you should use their removal tool.
>
> In my case, the first step failed. The second step removed it although
> there still remained a folder and some files. I just renamed the files.
> After a few days, when nothing bad happened, I deleted the folder.
>
> The computer does seem to run faster now.
>
> Jim
>
(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:04 pm
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"Bullwinkle" <moose DeleteThis @moose.com> wrote in message
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> It's really not as easy as that.
>
> Symantec has a bad habit of putting files all over your disks and you need
> to manually delete any files you find after removing the program using the
> add/remove program and the Norton removal tool has done its thing.
>
> After all that you should run a registry program and the defrag because
> there will be more troubles caused by Norton programs.
>
> Be sure to back up the registry before doing anything there.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> "Jim" <
(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:15 pm
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"Jim" <j.n RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Buffalo" <Eric RemoveThis @nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
[snip]
> > Well, I'm curious.
> > Did it run faster after you uninstalled Norton, or after you deleted the
> > renamed files and the folder they were in?
> > I would think the former.
> > If you had trouble removing Norton completely, don't ever try to
uninstall
> > ZoneAlarm. > >
> >
> >
> It ran faster after I uninstalled Norton. The files in the left over
folder
> were not accessed after Norton left.
>
> I am now using AVG on the computer.
>
> Jim
Thanks for the reply.
I use AVG as well, but I don't think it is as effective as Norton, but, it
might not impact your system as much.
I do practice 'safe hex', mostly.
Overall, I never did notice Norton AntiVirus slowing down my system.
I think that the problem that many have with Norton slowing things down, is
that they run everthing Norton Systemworks has to offer.
(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:21 am
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Buffalo wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> [snip]
>> In my case, the first step failed. The second step removed it
>> although there still remained a folder and some files. I just
>> renamed the files. After a few days, when nothing bad happened, I
>> deleted the folder.
>>
>> The computer does seem to run faster now.
>>
>> Jim
>
> Well, I'm curious.
> Did it run faster after you uninstalled Norton, or after you deleted the
> renamed files and the folder they were in?
> I would think the former.
> If you had trouble removing Norton completely, don't ever try to uninstall
> ZoneAlarm. >
>
>
I maintain an xpcopy partition for trying out downloads etc. I had no
problem removing zone alarm to see if it had any effect on my avast
shutdown problem (it didn't). Replaced ZA with Kerio, prefer ZA.
Dave Cohen
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