F-Prot

"Roger Wilco" <yesman DeleteThis @yourservice.invalid> wrote:
> "Zvi Netiv" <support DeleteThis @replace_with_domain.com> wrote in message
> > "Roger Wilco" <yesman DeleteThis @yourservice.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Sources I trust have mentioned here many times that F-Prot for DOS does
> > > not work properly on XP irrespective of which file system one chooses
> > > when installing XP. The OP should use F-Prot for Windows instead as
> > > mentioned by another poster.
> >
> > NTFS4DOS is a DOS driver, used to mount NTFS volumes *under DOS*. The governing
> > factor whether F-Prot will run properly on the platform is the OS, *not* the
> > target drive file system. As Frisk explained here, years ago, the problem is
> > with the DOS extender used.
>
> So, the answer to "Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??" is still no if
> F-Prot for DOS and XP's DOS emulation are indicated? Using NTFS4DOS
> indicates the user is not using XP's DOS emulator and so the "XP
> platform" part of the question is not relevant to the answer "If you use
> NTFS4DOS it wil". It's like answering "Linux" to the question "What is
> the best AV". )

Idiotic sophistry.

It depends on what you understand as an "XP platform". A PC with only XP
installed will be considered by most users as an XP platform, even when switched
off. Hence, not the running OS is what makes it a "platform", the installed
system does.

I stand by my statement.

Regards, Zvi
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:51:01 +0300, Zvi Netiv
<support.TakeThisOut@replace_with_domain.com> wrote:

>Hence, not the running OS is what makes it a "platform", the installed
>system does.

I don't think many would agree with that.


Jim.

"Roger Wilco" <yesman.TakeThisOut@yourservice.invalid> wrote:
> "* * Chas" <dnafutz.TakeThisOut@aol.spam.com> wrote in message
> > "James Egan" <jegan.TakeThisOut@jegan.com> wrote in message

> > Actually, it does - from a DOS boot disk..... but it probably doesn't
> > scan correctly.
>
> Actually it doesn't - a boot to DOS is no longer an "XP platform"

A platform isn't defined by what you boot to. Most users will call a platform
after the installed OS(s).

> whereas a DOS window within XP would still be. Booting to DOS would not
> support NTFS without the driver supplied by NTFS4DOS (for scanning) and
> then you would need to pro version to affect any changes (write
> capability).

Wrong again. NTFS4DOS is a free full access NTFS driver for DOS, from Datapool.
You are confusing it with NTFSDOS from Winternals. It's the latter that has a
pro version, required for full access (read-write).

Regards, Zvi
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Why has this thread gone on for so long? I will try to finish it here.

It is perfectly simple. F-Prot for DOS will NOT run PROPERLY under a
Windows XP "platform", whatever your file system is. It will NOT run
PROPERLY using a NTFS file system. and it will NOT run PROPERLY under a
FAT32 file system either.

This is because Windows XP does not use DOS, it uses DOS "emulation". And
certain aspects of this DOS "emulation" are not compatible with some
advanced aspects of the F-Prot for DOS Antivirus Program.

Now, if you are going to boot your PC from a floppy disk or CD-ROM, then you
may be able to get F-Prot for DOS to work properly. There are lots of
options if you boot from a floppy disk or CD-ROM. You can choose DOS, DOS
with long filemame support, NTFSDOS Pro with long filename support etc etc.

But if you do this, then you are not running F-Prot for DOS under a Windows
XP "platform". You are running it under whichever "platform" you chose to
boot your PC with.

Simple isn't it?

Yrael wrote:
[snip]
> Now, if you are going to boot your PC from a floppy disk or CD-ROM, then you
> may be able to get F-Prot for DOS to work properly. There are lots of
> options if you boot from a floppy disk or CD-ROM. You can choose DOS, DOS
> with long filemame support, NTFSDOS Pro with long filename support etc etc.
>
> But if you do this, then you are not running F-Prot for DOS under a Windows
> XP "platform". You are running it under whichever "platform" you chose to
> boot your PC with.
>
> Simple isn't it?

in order to not run afoul of zvi's point on what constitutes an xp
platform, you might want to revise this to state that you're not running
in a windows xp *environment*...

the _platform_ is kind of a red herring...

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then left ya for the starvin' crows, hoverin' like hungry whores
one flew down plucked out yer eye, the other he had in his sights
ya snarled at him, said leave me be - i need the bugger so i can see"

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 05:40:23 -0700, Jafo <a.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>>Im sorry to disagree with you, but this is not true. I have
>>used FPROT for DOS on many XP machines and never had a problem.
>>You may have a problem on your machine.
>
>Depends on whether the disk is FAT32 or NTFS.

That's not it, either.

F-Prot DOS won't work properly in a xp dos window irrespective of
filesystem.


Jim.