(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:32 pm
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In article <FZtek.17632$Ri.15146@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>, toidi DeleteThis @tpap.com
says...
> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
>
Do you really want to trust someone that was banned from posting
directly to Microsoft Usenet servers, someone that has posted links to
pornographic materials on HIS WEBSITE, who's website is in the MVP HOST
Block list, and who provides a tool for your use that will block access
to reputable anti-malware sites without telling you he's doing it?
And do you really want to trust someone that has had to change their
posting identity after being busted by MS as a fake MVP?
(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:26 pm
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From: "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous.TakeThisOut@example.invalid>
| Spartacus wrote:
>> If I would have "bothered to ask"??? Nice attitude Dave.
| Posting HJT logs to Usenet pollutes the searching for the bits of
| malware in your log. In fact, so many of you n00bs have posted logs, it
| has become nearly impossible to use google group searches for anything
| worthwhile any more.
The pollution of news group searches is just a small part of the "big picture" as there
are more reasons that are far more important. I will ellaborate...
1. HTTP based forums are moderated and controlled and thus eliminate the troll factor
and misinformation.
2. HJT logs are only a small part of analysis. It only provide an insight to simple
malware. It won't help where there are infections that are using kernel level
capabilities to hide such as drivers (eg., *.SYS files). One might remove a simple BHO
through HJT analysis but the person can still be infected. Usenet responses to such
problems would be infffective in these sistuations. Another exmple would where legitimate
files are Trojanized or replaced. For example take QTTask.exe from quicktime. It may
show up in in a HJT log and thus overlooked. However there are Trojans that will replace
the QTTask.exe with the Trojan EXE and the responder would have no way of knowing that.
3. Helpers in Expert Forums are trained in a malware university of sorts and can't
analyze logs until they graduate and the helpers are monitored by more exprienced
personnel to make sure the right responses and suggestions are provided.
4. Affected forum posters may be asked to submit samples of malware. These samples may
then be dissected and analyzed to provide a more deffinitive response. Addionally these
samples are provided to the various anti malware companies as well may be used for
improvements on anti malware utilities provided by expert forums such as with the
MalwareBytes Anti Malware (MBAM) utility.
5. Usenet is public and not only do affected individuals read the groups but so do the
malware authors. Expert forums may take a discussion of a particular nasty offline such
that malware authors can't read the responses and modify their malware to thwart their
removal. A pefect example would be the Gromozon malware. In this case the malware
authors were modifying their malware to be more evasive and effective in thwarting their
removal. Those posters who had Gromozon were taken to a private area where the malware
authors could no longer view removal instructions and thus the efficacy of expert forums
in helping the affected person to remove the malware was greatly increased.
So there are many *good* reasons why posting of HJT logs is not allowed on Usenet groups.
The most important is the personal 1-on-1 attention given to the affected poster to make
sure when the poster leaves the thread they are indeed clean of malware.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:34 pm
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Malware University Bwaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa! and just where is this university
located? my stomach hurts, where do you come up with this BS?
--
Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:8fidnaJIZ5qlAOfVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@giganews.com...
> From: "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous RemoveThis @example.invalid>
>
> | Spartacus wrote:
>
>>> If I would have "bothered to ask"??? Nice attitude Dave.
>
> | Posting HJT logs to Usenet pollutes the searching for the bits of
> | malware in your log. In fact, so many of you n00bs have posted logs, it
> | has become nearly impossible to use google group searches for anything
> | worthwhile any more.
>
>
> The pollution of news group searches is just a small part of the "big
> picture" as there
> are more reasons that are far more important. I will ellaborate...
>
> 1. HTTP based forums are moderated and controlled and thus eliminate
> the troll factor
> and misinformation.
>
> 2. HJT logs are only a small part of analysis. It only provide an
> insight to simple
> malware. It won't help where there are infections that are using kernel
> level
> capabilities to hide such as drivers (eg., *.SYS files). One might remove
> a simple BHO
> through HJT analysis but the person can still be infected. Usenet
> responses to such
> problems would be infffective in these sistuations. Another exmple would
> where legitimate
> files are Trojanized or replaced. For example take QTTask.exe from
> quicktime. It may
> show up in in a HJT log and thus overlooked. However there are Trojans
> that will replace
> the QTTask.exe with the Trojan EXE and the responder would have no way of
> knowing that.
>
> 3. Helpers in Expert Forums are trained in a malware university of
> sorts and can't
> analyze logs until they graduate and the helpers are monitored by more
> exprienced
> personnel to make sure the right responses and suggestions are provided.
>
> 4. Affected forum posters may be asked to submit samples of malware.
> These samples may
> then be dissected and analyzed to provide a more deffinitive response.
> Addionally these
> samples are provided to the various anti malware companies as well may be
> used for
> improvements on anti malware utilities provided by expert forums such as
> with the
> MalwareBytes Anti Malware (MBAM) utility.
>
> 5. Usenet is public and not only do affected individuals read the
> groups but so do the
> malware authors. Expert forums may take a discussion of a particular
> nasty offline such
> that malware authors can't read the responses and modify their malware to
> thwart their
> removal. A pefect example would be the Gromozon malware. In this case
> the malware
> authors were modifying their malware to be more evasive and effective in
> thwarting their
> removal. Those posters who had Gromozon were taken to a private area
> where the malware
> authors could no longer view removal instructions and thus the efficacy of
> expert forums
> in helping the affected person to remove the malware was greatly
> increased.
>
> So there are many *good* reasons why posting of HJT logs is not allowed on
> Usenet groups.
> The most important is the personal 1-on-1 attention given to the affected
> poster to make
> sure when the poster leaves the thread they are indeed clean of malware.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp >
>
(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:38 pm
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In article <3Ozek.6613$vn7.4849@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com>, toidi.DeleteThis@tpap.com
says...
> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
>
Do you really want to trust someone that was banned from posting
directly to Microsoft Usenet servers, someone that has posted links to
pornographic materials on HIS WEBSITE, who's website is in the MVP HOST
Block list, and who provides a tool for your use that will block access
to reputable anti-malware sites without telling you he's doing it?
And do you really want to trust someone that has had to change their
posting identity after being busted by MS as a fake MVP?
--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:17 pm
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The Real Truth MVP explained on 7/13/2008 :
> Malware University Bwaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa! and just where is this university
> located? my stomach hurts, where do you come up with this BS?
Oh man I keep forgetting to put you back in the toilet...uh
killfile...there! Ah, that's better.
(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:52 pm
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DrumStick wrote:
> The Real Truth MVP explained on 7/13/2008 :
>> Malware University Bwaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa! and just where is this
>> university located? my stomach hurts, where do you come up with this BS?
>
> Oh man I keep forgetting to put you back in the toilet...uh
> killfile...there! Ah, that's better.
>
> Drumstick
That's 'cause the a-hole keeps changing nams to fool ISPs and posters. Now I
gotta plonk him again too. Sigh. Plonky donkey.
(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:23 pm
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The Biggest Joke MVP wannabe wrote:
> Malware University Bwaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa! and just where is this
> university located? my stomach hurts, where do you come up with this BS?
>
>
>
You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face.
There are many malware removal forums that have a teaching section that
one has to go through before one is allowed to help. I am a member of
one such forum. You have posted,in the past,that you "run" several of
these forums. Don't you know your own rules? You are the biggest joke on
USENET.
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:23 pm
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Look you stupid troll I have been teaching people how to read and interpret
HJT logs for years in my forums and Usenet, there is no such thing as a
malware university period! It's not hard and not dangerous like people
think. You have a lot learn.
--
Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
"What's in a Name?" <maxwachtel RemoveThis @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
news:g5jf2h$o74$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> The Biggest Joke MVP wannabe wrote:
>> Malware University Bwaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa! and just where is this
>> university located? my stomach hurts, where do you come up with this BS?
>>
>>
>>
> You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face.
> There are many malware removal forums that have a teaching section that
> one has to go through before one is allowed to help. I am a member of one
> such forum. You have posted,in the past,that you "run" several of these
> forums. Don't you know your own rules? You are the biggest joke on USENET.
> --
> Virus Removal http://max.shplink.com/removal.html > Keep Clean http://max.shplink.com/keepingclean.html > Tools http://max.shplink.com/tools.html > Change nomail.afraid.org to gmail.com to reply by email.
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