Free AntiVir vs Free BitDefender

What's in a Name? wrote:
> On 8/30/2007 3:31 AM, n o s p a m p l e a s e after much thought,came up
> with this jewel:
>> At http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30082.0 , I find AntiVir and
>> BitDefender are rated higher than Avast and AVG.
>> I am told there are problems with Free AntiVir update.
> The only "problem" is a nag screen that comes up during an update.
>> How is the update function of Free BitDefender?
> about the same as all others.
>> Is Free BitDefender better placed as compared to Free Avast?
> Bit Defender(free version) is an on-demand scanner.
>> Thanx/NSP
> max
Jeanette wrote:

I use antivir on a couple of boxes here and it updates ok just that
their update is slow and there is a pop up.

Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:15:35 -0500 schrieb What's in a Name?:

> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this jewel:

>>[delete or rename avnotify.exe and .dll to prevent the update
>>commercial popup in Antivir]

> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it runs? I
> haven't tried it myself.

Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe and
the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm no
Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to try if
this works .

Gabriela

"Gabriela Salvisberg" <salvie DeleteThis @verboten.net> wrote in message
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> Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:15:35 -0500 schrieb What's in a Name?:
>
>> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this jewel:
>
>>>[delete or rename avnotify.exe and .dll to prevent the update
>>>commercial popup in Antivir]
>
>> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it runs? I
>> haven't tried it myself.
>
> Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
> firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe and
> the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm no
> Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to try if
> this works .
>
> Gabriela

A lot of grief over a nag screen that can be closed with a single mouse
click.......Especially one that does nothing, and prevents nothing. The
update goes on even if you ignore it. Drag it off the screen if it
bothers you. Close your eyes for the few seconds it takes to update.
Hardly a high price to pay for an excellent free application.


Bob

Gabriela Salvisberg wrote:
> Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:15:35 -0500 schrieb What's in a Name?:
>
>> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this jewel:
>
>>> [delete or rename avnotify.exe and .dll to prevent the update
>>> commercial popup in Antivir]
>
>> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it runs? I
>> haven't tried it myself.
>
> Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
> firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe and
> the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm no
> Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to try if
> this works .
>
> Gabriela

I have AntiVir on an XP Pro box and disallow avnotify.exe with the
security policy editor to prevent the nag screen from opening. I'm not
sure if it's possible with a software firewall.

"Gabriela Salvisberg" <salvie.DeleteThis@verboten.net> wrote in message
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> Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:15:35 -0500 schrieb What's in a Name?:
>
>> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this
>> jewel:
>
>>>[delete or rename avnotify.exe and .dll to prevent the update
>>>commercial popup in Antivir]
>
>> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it
>> runs? I
>> haven't tried it myself.
>
> Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
> firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe
> and
> the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm
> no
> Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to
> try if
> this works .


Accessing the net is not what the avnotify.exe window is about. It is
nagware to get you to buy their commercialware. You need to use an
IPS (intrusion protection system), like System Safety Monitor or
ProcessGuard, to prevent avnotify.exe from loading in the first place.

Don't what the point would be to use the free version, anyway. The
current downloads available will expire after 3 months, go into "demo"
mode for another month, and then you don't get updates after the 4th
month. So you get a 3-month trial although Avira doesn't tell you
that. Do a download of their latest version into a VM, like in VMWare
Server or Virtual PC, don't do an update, move the clock forward 4.5
months, reboot, and then try to do an update. You'll get an error in
the log saying that you don't have a valid license which results in
not getting an update. Good AV if you buy it. Free version
self-destructs.

"What's in a Name?" <maxpro4u DeleteThis @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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>> I am told there are problems with Free AntiVir update.
> The only "problem" is a nag screen that comes up during an update.

Re: Eliminating the 'nag-screen'.
Has anybody tried this?

1- rename file avnotify.exe to avnotify
or
2- delete avnotify.exe and avnotify.dll from the antivir program files
folder
or
3- use Eraser to wipe out files C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition
Classic\avnotify.dll
and C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avnotify.exe