Best Free Anti-Virus Solution

"Jan Il" <abuse.DeleteThis@localhost.com> wrote in message
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> "kurt wismer" <kurtw.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> > Jan Il wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > Not to sure about the warm and fuzzy part myself. Putting MS and warm
> and
> > > fuzzy in the same sentence is a bit of a stretch, for me anyway.
> >
> > no stretch here...
> >
> > "ms roasting on an open fire gives me warm fuzzy feelings"....
>
> Yeppers......now /that/ I can relate to........ )

MS controls the computer market. It's not a democracy and you don't have a
vote. Sooner or later you will learn that you can't fight city hall. But
you can minimize the effort required to keep your computers working by using
only MS parts.

"Jan Il" <abuse.RemoveThis@localhost.com> wrote in message
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> Not to sure about the warm and fuzzy part myself. Putting MS and warm and
> fuzzy in the same sentence is a bit of a stretch, for me anyway. <vbg>
> However, that MS seems to promote it means that it is at the least
> compatible with their various software versions, unlike a lot of others.
Not
> all of them play nice together. As I understand, the EZ Trust Firewall
*is*
> Zone Alarm.
>
Hi there Ms. Jan......

Just to sort you out. EZ Trust has a deal both with Microsoft and one I
could find you a link for.......but you get the antivirus free and also
version 3.xxx of Zone Alarm.

I pay for EZ Trust and have used it for some 4 years......since way back
when it was the freebie InoculateIT PE. I have used both the free ZA and
ZAPro.....and wouldn't be without any of the above. I just updated ZAPro to
4.5.58 something or other......I don't bother keeping track. I find I have
to turn off some of the protection tho.

I also use F-Prot for a manual backup and have used that for some 7 or 8
years.......thanks to people on here who taught me a lot (a.c.v. actually).
And once Fridrik gets the new update working right, I will redownload it.

So if Microsoft is backing EZ Trust, that says a lot. I have no quarrel
with that because I KNOW how good it is. I just think they should give ME a
free year for being such a loyal customer!! (VBG) And I think I will write
and tell them that......

I won't tell the MS boys what you said.......heh heh.

Best.....Heather

William W. Plummer wrote:

....
> MS controls the computer market. It's not a democracy and you don't have a
> vote. Sooner or later you will learn that you can't fight city hall.

Yes, Sir.

> But
> you can minimize the effort required to keep your computers working by using
> only MS parts.

No, Sir! E.g., I keep my PC working by using Mozilla instead of IE/OE.
And e.g. Photoshop is superior to MS Paint;-)

Roy

"Heather" <janesmith60.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jan Il" <abuse.TakeThisOut@localhost.com> wrote in message
> news:N%%fc.11287$Yf6.10119@fed1read07...
> > Not to sure about the warm and fuzzy part myself. Putting MS and warm
and
> > fuzzy in the same sentence is a bit of a stretch, for me anyway. <vbg>
> > However, that MS seems to promote it means that it is at the least
> > compatible with their various software versions, unlike a lot of others.
> Not
> > all of them play nice together. As I understand, the EZ Trust Firewall
> *is*
> > Zone Alarm.
> >
> Hi there Ms. Jan......
>
> Just to sort you out. EZ Trust has a deal both with Microsoft and one I
> could find you a link for.......but you get the antivirus free and also
> version 3.xxx of Zone Alarm.
>
> I pay for EZ Trust and have used it for some 4 years......since way back
> when it was the freebie InoculateIT PE. I have used both the free ZA and
> ZAPro.....and wouldn't be without any of the above. I just updated ZAPro
to
> 4.5.58 something or other......I don't bother keeping track. I find I
have
> to turn off some of the protection tho.
>
> I also use F-Prot for a manual backup and have used that for some 7 or 8
> years.......thanks to people on here who taught me a lot (a.c.v.
actually).
> And once Fridrik gets the new update working right, I will redownload it.
>
> So if Microsoft is backing EZ Trust, that says a lot. I have no quarrel
> with that because I KNOW how good it is. I just think they should give ME
a
> free year for being such a loyal customer!! (VBG) And I think I will
write
> and tell them that......

Thanks for the additional info, Heather. I do think it speaks well of the
product, but, seems MS has had their fingers in a lot of pies lately, and
tested the sugar level in some others, not sure if they have acquired the
software or just promoting. I remember when I tried the free offer or free
trial (don't remember which now) for the new EZ Trust Firewall version
several months ago, which I saw here on this ng, only to find that it was
just ZA by another name, which I had already been using for the last year or
more thanks to *you*. <G> A friend of mine argued with me for two days
that it wasn't, until they came over to my house and saw the ZA I had and
then admitted they were the same. People who have never used Zone Alarm
don't know that is what they are getting, just with a different name. Good
luck getting your free year with EZ Trust. I hope you do! )
>
> I won't tell the MS boys what you said.......heh heh.

Lol! Most of them already know how I feel. They're the ones who taught
*me*. <VBG>

Cheers!

Jan

In article <ce1f22b76849f3474c8b6b3c02d63564 RemoveThis @news.teranews.com>,
Dave Cohen <dgone RemoveThis @spamgis.net> wrote:

>"John Brock" <jbrock RemoveThis @panix.com> wrote in message
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>> This Sunday if all goes well I will be setting up an old Pentium
>> clunker to give to a non-technical friend of a friend. I had been
>> thinking of putting Avast! on it, because at least in the short
>> time I've been reading this newsgroup people seem to have been a
>> bit down on AVG6. Still, if AVG6 is much lighter than Avast! it
>> might be more appropriate here. The two things that bothered me
>> in reading about AVG6 were 1) updates don't seem to be working
>> right recently, and 2) it detects viruses but doesn't disinfect.
>>
>> Have I understood these problems properly? What exactly is wrong
>> with the updates? What exactly can AVG6 do when it finds a virus,
>> other than tell you it's there? In general, what are the pro &
>> cons of AVG6 vs Avast! on an old, slow PC?

>The updates seem ok when using the modified url.ini described elsehwhere in
>these groups.
>It does fix a virus but only after you scan the whole drive, alternative is
>just to manually delete since it does identify the errant file. In the event
>you should need the deleted file, well, that's a good reason to keep
>backups, just don't wait until you need them.

I don't understand. What does the user actually need to do if AVG6
detects a virus, and how is the procedure different from most other
AV products (in particular Avast!)?

It sounds like you are saying that if AVG6 is only scanning a single
file or directory it offers no remedy for an infected file other
than for the user to delete it by hand, but that if you run a full
disk scan then AVG6 at the end of the scan will fix up all infected
files. Is that accurate?

BTW, can AVG6 actually "fix" an infected executable (i.e., make it
safe to run)?

Remember, the eventual user for this is technically unsophisticated,
so the confusion factor needs to be as small as possible.
--
John Brock
jbrock RemoveThis @panix.com

..> Dave Cohen <dgone RemoveThis @spamgis.net> wrote:
>
> >"John Brock" <jbrock RemoveThis @panix.com> wrote in message
> >news:c5mbqf$e5c$1@panix2.panix.com...
>
> >> This Sunday if all goes well I will be setting up an old Pentium
> >> clunker to give to a non-technical friend of a friend. I had been
> >> thinking of putting Avast! on it, because at least in the short
> >> time I've been reading this newsgroup people seem to have been a
> >> bit down on AVG6. Still, if AVG6 is much lighter than Avast! it
> >> might be more appropriate here. The two things that bothered me
> >> in reading about AVG6 were 1) updates don't seem to be working
> >> right recently, and 2) it detects viruses but doesn't disinfect.
> >>
> >> Have I understood these problems properly? What exactly is wrong
> >> with the updates? What exactly can AVG6 do when it finds a virus,
> >> other than tell you it's there? In general, what are the pro &
> >> cons of AVG6 vs Avast! on an old, slow PC?
>
> >The updates seem ok when using the modified url.ini described elsehwhere
in
> >these groups.
> >It does fix a virus but only after you scan the whole drive, alternative
is
> >just to manually delete since it does identify the errant file. In the
event
> >you should need the deleted file, well, that's a good reason to keep
> >backups, just don't wait until you need them.
>
> I don't understand. What does the user actually need to do if AVG6
> detects a virus, and how is the procedure different from most other
> AV products (in particular Avast!)?
>
> It sounds like you are saying that if AVG6 is only scanning a single
> file or directory it offers no remedy for an infected file other
> than for the user to delete it by hand, but that if you run a full
> disk scan then AVG6 at the end of the scan will fix up all infected
> files. Is that accurate?

> BTW, can AVG6 actually "fix" an infected executable (i.e., make it
> safe to run)?
>
> Remember, the eventual user for this is technically unsophisticated,
> so the confusion factor needs to be as small as possible.

Sorry about the delay in my reply, I just saw your response. As far as I
know, and my experience using the AVG6, when the scan is complete, the
viruses found during the scan are neutralized and placed in the Virus Vault.
Then the user has the opportunity to check the list for and either delete it
Heal it or Restore it.

Here is the description of the Virus Vault and how it works from the AVG6
Help files. Perhaps this will answer your questions;

The AVG Virus Vault:

When AVG detects a virus that cannot be removed by healing, it uses a
special way of deleting the infected file - AVG moves it to the AVG Virus
Vault.

What is the AVG Virus Vault?

The AVG Virus Vault is a special directory that stores infected files. The
name of the files are changed and their content is encrypted so they cannot
be used and virus infection cannot spread. It is almost the same as ordinary
deleting techniques; however, the AVG Virus Vault gives you the ability to
restore the files, if necessary.

· Delete File – deletes – finally removes the file. It cannot be restored
later.

· The AVG Virus Vault has its own automatic maintenance - files stored in
the AVG Virus Vault are deleted automatically depending on the parameters
set.

· File Restore - runs the function providing File Restore - the file is
moved back to its original directory under its original name. It is
important to realize that the file is still infected.

HTH

Jan