(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:04 am
Post subject: Re: AVG 8 free [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
sherwindu wrote:
> Tommy McClure wrote:
>
>> Have a buddy in the business, claims AVG 8 free is much faster than
>> anything else he has.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> --
>> tommy
>
> I don't know about your buddy, but after installing AVG 8, my
> computer slowed
>
> down to a crawl. It was using close to 100 per cent cpu, with no
> other processes
> loaded. I did not have this problem with AVG 7.5 and I am sorry
> I upgraded.
>
> Of course Grisoft is going to pull the plug on 7.5 in a few
> months anyways.
>
> What made me more frustrated was that using either the AVG
> uninstaller or Windows Add/Delete program software, I was
> getting errors preventing me from unloading the AVG 8.0. I
> just took a hammer to it and stripped out
> all
> file and registry references. Programs like this are scary.
> Now I have to search
> for a new replacement for AVG. I am running an 1.3 gig cpu
> with 500 meg of
> ram and windows 2000. Certainly enough horse power to handle a
> anti-virus
>
> program.
see this thread : news:48581a48$0$9836$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org
here are the processes for AVG 7.5 running on my box:
avgamsvr.exe 192k
avgcc.exe 1,320k
avgemc.exe 556k
avgupsvc.exe 528k
total ~ 2,500k
my comparable for Avast 4 free home version
ashDisp. 2,156k
ashMaiSv.exe 2,448k
ashServ.exe 28,300k
ashWebSv.exe 32,356k
aswUpdSv.exe 292k
total ~65,000k
Ernie's number's for same thing
<quote>
Check your settings. I just installed avast
ashWebSv.exe 1,652k
ashDisp.exe 1,300k
ashMaiSv.exe 1,908k
ashServ.exe 11,516k
doesn't even come close to 45mb.<unquote>
total 14,000k
I don't know why there was a difference in his numbers. I run W2K Pro dual
PIIs @500mhz 768mb ram. It is very slow. I am afraid to even try AVG 8 free.
My theory is that the new pcs all have about 2gb ram , 3ghz cpus and the
programmers have left folks with older systems behind. The commercial
security suites are even worse.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:20 pm
Post subject: Re: AVG 8 free [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Tommy McClure wrote:
> sherwindu wrote:
>> Tommy McClure wrote:
>>
>>> Have a buddy in the business, claims AVG 8 free is much faster than
>>> anything else he has.
>>>
>>> Any comments?
>>>
>>> --
>>> tommy
>> I don't know about your buddy, but after installing AVG 8, my
>> computer slowed
>>
>> down to a crawl. It was using close to 100 per cent cpu, with no
>> other processes
>> loaded. I did not have this problem with AVG 7.5 and I am sorry
>> I upgraded.
>>
>> Of course Grisoft is going to pull the plug on 7.5 in a few
>> months anyways.
>>
>> What made me more frustrated was that using either the AVG
>> uninstaller or Windows Add/Delete program software, I was
>> getting errors preventing me from unloading the AVG 8.0. I
>> just took a hammer to it and stripped out
>> all
>> file and registry references. Programs like this are scary.
>> Now I have to search
>> for a new replacement for AVG. I am running an 1.3 gig cpu
>> with 500 meg of
>> ram and windows 2000. Certainly enough horse power to handle a
>> anti-virus
>>
>> program.
>
> see this thread : news:48581a48$0$9836$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org
>
> here are the processes for AVG 7.5 running on my box:
> avgamsvr.exe 192k
> avgcc.exe 1,320k
> avgemc.exe 556k
> avgupsvc.exe 528k
> total ~ 2,500k
>
> my comparable for Avast 4 free home version
> ashDisp. 2,156k
> ashMaiSv.exe 2,448k
> ashServ.exe 28,300k
> ashWebSv.exe 32,356k
> aswUpdSv.exe 292k
> total ~65,000k
>
> Ernie's number's for same thing
> <quote>
> Check your settings. I just installed avast
> ashWebSv.exe 1,652k
> ashDisp.exe 1,300k
> ashMaiSv.exe 1,908k
> ashServ.exe 11,516k
> doesn't even come close to 45mb.<unquote>
> total 14,000k
>
> I don't know why there was a difference in his numbers. I run W2K Pro dual
> PIIs @500mhz 768mb ram. It is very slow. I am afraid to even try AVG 8 free.
> My theory is that the new pcs all have about 2gb ram , 3ghz cpus and the
> programmers have left folks with older systems behind. The commercial
> security suites are even worse.
>
> --
> tommy
>
Well, I don't think W2K is suited to dual processors, and it isn't
exactly happy running on PIIs either. PIIs were made for DOS/Windows
(and they had problems, which is why most everybody who had a PII
machine went to PIII as soon as soon as they were available.) PIIs lack
a number of features that modern CPUs include (starting with larger
command sets.) IMO that's the main reason Avast is using more RAM on
your machine: on a modern CPU a lot of stuff that Avast is doing on your
machine is done by the OS.
OTOH, it's true that modern programmers don't try to tweak their code
the way people did when 64K of RAM was all that was available. All
modern programs are much larger than they need to be, but with RAM and
HD space so cheap nowadays it's not worth the effort to make programs
smaller. Human labour is much more expensive than silicon.
(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:57 pm
Post subject: Re: AVG 8 free [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
> Tommy McClure wrote:
>> sherwindu wrote:
>>> Tommy McClure wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have a buddy in the business, claims AVG 8 free is much faster
>>>> than anything else he has.
>>>>
>>>> Any comments?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> tommy
>>> I don't know about your buddy, but after installing AVG 8, my
>>> computer slowed
>>>
>>> down to a crawl. It was using close to 100 per cent cpu, with no
>>> other processes
>>> loaded. I did not have this problem with AVG 7.5 and I am sorry
>>> I upgraded.
>>>
>>> Of course Grisoft is going to pull the plug on 7.5 in a few
>>> months anyways.
>>>
>>> What made me more frustrated was that using either the AVG
>>> uninstaller or Windows Add/Delete program software, I was
>>> getting errors preventing me from unloading the AVG 8.0. I
>>> just took a hammer to it and stripped out
>>> all
>>> file and registry references. Programs like this are scary.
>>> Now I have to search
>>> for a new replacement for AVG. I am running an 1.3 gig cpu
>>> with 500 meg of
>>> ram and windows 2000. Certainly enough horse power to handle
>>> a anti-virus
>>>
>>> program.
>>
>> see this thread : news:48581a48$0$9836$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org
>>
>> here are the processes for AVG 7.5 running on my box:
>> avgamsvr.exe 192k
>> avgcc.exe 1,320k
>> avgemc.exe 556k
>> avgupsvc.exe 528k
>> total ~ 2,500k
>>
>> my comparable for Avast 4 free home version
>> ashDisp. 2,156k
>> ashMaiSv.exe 2,448k
>> ashServ.exe 28,300k
>> ashWebSv.exe 32,356k
>> aswUpdSv.exe 292k
>> total ~65,000k
>>
>> Ernie's number's for same thing
>> <quote>
>> Check your settings. I just installed avast
>> ashWebSv.exe 1,652k
>> ashDisp.exe 1,300k
>> ashMaiSv.exe 1,908k
>> ashServ.exe 11,516k
>> doesn't even come close to 45mb.<unquote>
>> total 14,000k
>>
>> I don't know why there was a difference in his numbers. I run W2K
>> Pro dual PIIs @500mhz 768mb ram. It is very slow. I am afraid to
>> even try AVG 8 free. My theory is that the new pcs all have about
>> 2gb ram , 3ghz cpus and the programmers have left folks with older
>> systems behind. The commercial security suites are even worse.
>>
>> --
>> tommy
>>
>
> Well, I don't think W2K is suited to dual processors, and it isn't
> exactly happy running on PIIs either. PIIs were made for DOS/Windows
> (and they had problems, which is why most everybody who had a PII
> machine went to PIII as soon as soon as they were available.) PIIs
> lack a number of features that modern CPUs include (starting with
> larger command sets.) IMO that's the main reason Avast is using more
> RAM on your machine: on a modern CPU a lot of stuff that Avast is
> doing on your machine is done by the OS.
>
> OTOH, it's true that modern programmers don't try to tweak their code
> the way people did when 64K of RAM was all that was available. All
> modern programs are much larger than they need to be, but with RAM and
> HD space so cheap nowadays it's not worth the effort to make programs
> smaller. Human labour is much more expensive than silicon.
>
> HTH
Interesting theory. I think I agree with you. I wonder if anybody else has
seen this. [ I haven't seen anybody else on this group post any process /
memory use info (except Ernie B.) , no details ] I wonder why AVG works out
so efficiently and streamlined compared to AVAST and V8/0 free?
(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:34 am
Post subject: Re: AVG 8 free [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:51:10 -0500, sherwindu <sherwindu.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>
>Tommy McClure wrote:
>
>> Have a buddy in the business, claims AVG 8 free is much faster than
>> anything else he has.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> --
>> tommy
>
> I don't know about your buddy, but after installing AVG 8, my computer slowed
>
> down to a crawl. It was using close to 100 per cent cpu, with no other
>processes
> loaded. I did not have this problem with AVG 7.5 and I am sorry I upgraded.
>
> Of course Grisoft is going to pull the plug on 7.5 in a few months anyways.
>
> What made me more frustrated was that using either the AVG uninstaller or
> Windows Add/Delete program software, I was getting errors preventing me
> from unloading the AVG 8.0. I just took a hammer to it and stripped out
>all
> file and registry references. Programs like this are scary. Now I have
>to search
> for a new replacement for AVG. I am running an 1.3 gig cpu with 500 meg
>of
> ram and windows 2000. Certainly enough horse power to handle a anti-virus
>
> program.
>
The popup I am getting is that AVG 7.5 Free will no longer be
supported as of the 25th June 2008. It sounds to me that if you have a
more or less up to date machine AVG 8.0 works fine but if, like my old
girl, it dates back to the era of P11 Pentium's and 320MB RAM then I
found, as others, have that it slowed things up quite noticeably. 7.5
worked(s) fine (reinstalled) but will need to replace it very soon -
am looking toward NOD32, not free, I know but sounds a good one.
(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:33 pm
Post subject: Re: AVG 8 free [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:34:55 +0100, Reg M
<onceabusman-newsgroups.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Snip.........
>>
> The popup I am getting is that AVG 7.5 Free will no longer be
>supported as of the 25th June 2008. It sounds to me that if you have a
>more or less up to date machine AVG 8.0 works fine but if, like my old
>girl, it dates back to the era of P11 Pentium's and 320MB RAM then I
>found, as others, have that it slowed things up quite noticeably. 7.5
>worked(s) fine (reinstalled) but will need to replace it very soon -
>am looking toward NOD32, not free, I know but sounds a good one.
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