AVG free 8.5 warning

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"FredW" <fredw.DeleteThis@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:17:51 -0500, "tommy"
> <tommylee9_2000.DeleteThis@removeyahoo.dropcom> wrote:
>>FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> "tommy" <tommylee9_2000.DeleteThis@removeyahoo.dropcom> wrote in message
>>> news:h7kkk7$f7t$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>> I removed all AV, AS that I could. Those weren't on there. An old
>>>> Kaspersky
>>>> was on there, I removed it.
>>>
>>> Maybe this will help (if you didn't already use it):
>>>
>>http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Kaspersky-Anti-Virus-Remover-Download-99015.html
>>>
>>>> Windows Defender, formerly known as Microsoft AntiSpyware, is a
>>>> software
>>>> product from Microsoft to prevent, remove and quarantine spyware in
>>>> Microsoft Windows.
>>>
>>> I am aware of what it is, and also aware of what it *isn't*.
>>>
>>> It *isn't* an AV program.
>>>
>>>> I used Revo, and it didn't show WD, but it was a process running, I
>>>> halted
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> It is common practice to disable almost all such programs when
>>> installing new software.
>>
>>Why disable it if it isn't an AV program?
>
>
> A. It is a "service" that has nothing to do with the working of
> Windows.
>
> B. It is a Microsoft security product.
>
> C. It has a conflict with your AVG 8.5 (warning from AVG)
>
> Both AVG and WindowsDefender are real-time anti-spyware.
> Two real-time AV quarrel.
> Two firewalls (real-time) quarrel.
> Two real-time AS ............

....or that's what they would like you to believe.

"tommy" <tommylee9_2000.TakeThisOut@removeyahoo.dropcom> wrote in message
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> I guess I will look on the AVG free forum for WD conflict.

Please share with us the results, if any.

Good luck.

"tommy" <tommylee9_2000 DeleteThis @removeyahoo.dropcom> wrote in
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> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> "tommy" <tommylee9_2000 DeleteThis @removeyahoo.dropcom> wrote in message
>> news:h7kkk7$f7t$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>> I removed all AV, AS that I could. Those weren't on there. An old
>>> Kaspersky
>>> was on there, I removed it.
>>
>> Maybe this will help (if you didn't already use it):
>>
> http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Kaspersky-Anti-Virus-Remover-Down
> load-99015.html
>>
>>> Windows Defender, formerly known as Microsoft AntiSpyware, is a
>>> software
>>> product from Microsoft to prevent, remove and quarantine spyware in
>>> Microsoft Windows.
>>
>> I am aware of what it is, and also aware of what it *isn't*.
>>
>> It *isn't* an AV program.
>>
>>> I used Revo, and it didn't show WD, but it was a process running, I
>>> halted
>>> it.
>>
>> It is common practice to disable almost all such programs when
>> installing new software.
>
> Why disable it if it isn't an AV program?
>
>
>
>
>

Depending on the software, it might misinterpret the installers actions
as a possible trojan and/or worm trying something. Same with AV
programs. You don't want anything to interfere with a legitimate
installation, right?


--
Dustin Cook [Malware Researcher]
MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk

"FromTheRafters" <erratic.RemoveThis@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:h7m2h0$nmu$1
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> "tommy" <tommylee9_2000.RemoveThis@removeyahoo.dropcom> wrote in message
> news:h7lusg$t7h$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> I guess I will look on the AVG free forum for WD conflict.
>
> Please share with us the results, if any.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>

It's probably more of a generic warning. IE: If your running Norton
preinstalled, please remove it BEFORE you install AVG.


--
Dustin Cook [Malware Researcher]
MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "FromTheRafters" <erratic.RemoveThis@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
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> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> "tommy" <tommylee9_2000.RemoveThis@removeyahoo.dropcom> wrote in message
>> news:h7lusg$t7h$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>> I guess I will look on the AVG free forum for WD conflict.
>>
>> Please share with us the results, if any.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>>
>
> It's probably more of a generic warning. IE: If your running Norton
> preinstalled, please remove it BEFORE you install AVG.

Yes, but I think it is disingenuous for these security related programs
to warn against competing anti-spyware programs unless there actually
*is* conflict between them. It seems like they are making suggestions
that result in the user removing the competition's software for fear of
conflicts that don't actually exist.

I believe that several "realtime" entities can run without conflict as
long as there aren't "on access" conflicts involved, and these vendors
(Microsoft included) use this misunderstanding of "realtime" to get
users to remove the competition's software from their system.