Just 12 minutes

External Since: Feb 06, 2008 Posts: 17

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump.RemoveThis@invalid.com>
>
>
>>> My IP address is in my reply.
>>> Prove otherwise.
> |
> | Thats like saying your house is burgal proof and inviting me to burgal
> | it to prove you wrong.
> |
> | My IP address has been in my reply for the last ten years, and I have
> | not suffered any infections really, one or two possible incidents but
> | these were no doubt caused by my careless use of the internet or were
> | merely over zealous antivirus software reports.
> | I am sure there are many people using NAT routers who had serious
> problems
> | with viruses. I certaintly have not and certaintly nothting that a NAT
> | router would have
> | prevented. I can guarantee you that.
> |
> | But anyway you have avoided the question as to how you are
> | protected, asking me to prove you are not an adaquate answer, it
> | suggests you don't know.
> |
> | All you router is doing is routing the traffic to your computer, it has
> no
> | more
> | idea whether that traffic is a 'virus' or not.
> |
> | Anyway there are a lot of 12 minutes in the time I have been connected
> to
> | to the interenet, and I don't appear to have acquired my yearly
> alloction
> | of 43,000 viruses, in fact I should be up to the 1/2 million mark my
> now!!
> | Or maybe I have!! Maybe that is why my hard drive is nearly full :O)
> |
>
> I have posted numerous times about the use of FireWall appliance and NAT
> Routers. Find and
> read them.
>
> If you probe my IP you won't find out anything.
> Why ?

Computer off line due to a virus infection?

> Because the Router has ports specifically blocked

However without some open ports you cannot use the internet.

> and only on invites from the LAN side will
> WAN access get through the WAN/LAN barrier. The Routers enforcement
> through simplistic
> FireWall constructs and Network Address Translation is far superior then
> attempting to close
> ports on nodes on the LAN side.

No it is effecively the same thing.

>
> I look forward to seeing activity from NTL Internet Ltd. Smile

Either that or an annomouuus proxy anyway.

Anyway I am not a hacker so it is pointless asking me to hack you,
so if you want to be tested you better ask more widely, prehaps in a
'hackers'
group and see how you get on.

Or you could go to one of many sites which will test you open ports.
I have just had all my 'ports tested' and I passed with flying colours.
Perhaps you would like to give it a try too???

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

So..... what extra is a router going to offer me? (Apart from extra cost).

Of course you need to test you router is secure too ;O)

Some what more difficult me thinks :O|

>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
>

External Since: Feb 06, 2008 Posts: 17

"David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins DeleteThis @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:01:02 -0500, Lord Turkey Cough
> <spamdump DeleteThis @invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>> news:m2rpj.31284$ds2.30990@trnddc05...
>>> Using a NAT Router will mitigate the BOT/Worm threat as well as hacking
>>> attempts.
>>
>> Do you really believe this? I think you are deluding yourself here.
>
> Worms that spread by taking advantage of exploits in software listening to
> tcp/udp ports are blocked by the router.
>
>> I don't really see what protection your router is giving you.
>> Would you care to explain how it protects you?
>
> When you use a properly configured router, all incoming traffic is
> blocked,
> unless it's in response to an outgoing packet.

Ah so its the same as my computer then!! Interestinig!!

> The router has to be configured,
> to allow traffic for the ports where you do want incoming traffic, to be
> allowed.

Bit like my comp :O)

>
> For example, if you are running an http server, you would have to setup
> the
> router to forward all data coming in to port 80, to forward it to the
> computer with the server running.
>
> Your web browser will still work, because it is initiating the connection,
> by sending a tcp syn packet, that the router will allow responses to.
>
> You'll still have to keep your software, that accesses the internet
> updated,
> but you no longer have to worry about printer&file sharing, for example.
>
> You can think of the nat router, as a hardware firewall, for incoming
> traffic. Like the windows firewall, it does nothing to help with
> connections
> established by software, on your computer.

I have had my securirty tested and passed with flying colours, I don't
use windows firewall I use another. I would sooner but my balls into
the mouth of a rotweiller than use a windows product for security.
And no I am not into beatiality.

AS far as I can see a router offers me nowt, infact I think relying on one
for security is the height of folly.

>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
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