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Anne

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Since: Jun 26, 2006
Posts: 71



(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:36 am
Post subject: Looking for new web design software
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I currently am using Frontpage 2003 and have had problems with creating my
own website using layers. The website does not appear the same on MAC as on
PC ect. Is there any other software available to make your own website
without using templates, that is easier than Frontpage?
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Murray

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Since: Mar 10, 2008
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Looking for new web design software [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> The website does not appear the same on MAC as on
> PC ect.

This is the fault of the code on the page. The code on the page is a
function of the operator of the software, not the application.

In general, using layers to build webpages is a very poor option. The ease
of positioning is way offset by the many disadvantages associated with
putting your content into absolutely positioned containers (i.e., 'layers').

I'm guessing that if you are having problems creating pages in FP, changing
applications is not going to help you.

How about you post a link to one of these pages, so that we can examine it
and its code?

--
Murray
MVP Expression Web


"Anne" <Anne.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:407F3602-70BE-4D0D-B66F-B4466D8D9F4C@microsoft.com...
>I currently am using Frontpage 2003 and have had problems with creating my
> own website using layers. The website does not appear the same on MAC as
> on
> PC ect. Is there any other software available to make your own website
> without using templates, that is easier than Frontpage?
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Anne

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Since: Jun 26, 2006
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:17 am
Post subject: Re: Looking for new web design software [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks for looking at my link. I have tried to use absolute positioning but
can't seem to get it to work in the areas I need it to. This is how I would
like the web page to look. Any help in getting me to this goal is extremely
appreciated.

http://www.nvinvestmentadvisors.com


Anne

"Murray" wrote:

> > The website does not appear the same on MAC as on
> > PC ect.
>
> This is the fault of the code on the page. The code on the page is a
> function of the operator of the software, not the application.
>
> In general, using layers to build webpages is a very poor option. The ease
> of positioning is way offset by the many disadvantages associated with
> putting your content into absolutely positioned containers (i.e., 'layers').
>
> I'm guessing that if you are having problems creating pages in FP, changing
> applications is not going to help you.
>
> How about you post a link to one of these pages, so that we can examine it
> and its code?
>
> --
> Murray
> MVP Expression Web
>
>
> "Anne" <Anne DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:407F3602-70BE-4D0D-B66F-B4466D8D9F4C@microsoft.com...
> >I currently am using Frontpage 2003 and have had problems with creating my
> > own website using layers. The website does not appear the same on MAC as
> > on
> > PC ect. Is there any other software available to make your own website
> > without using templates, that is easier than Frontpage?
>
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Murray

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Since: Mar 10, 2008
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:51 am
Post subject: Re: Looking for new web design software [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

You need to re-thinnk your approach to this layout. There is nothing there
that would suggest the use of absolutely positioned elements. Using them
will buy you far more trouble than you ever imagined at this point in your
learning curve.

Here are some suggestions for you:

1. Do not use file/pathnames that contain spaces. While the space is a
legal character, some browsers will interpret them to mean that the filename
has ended when they encounter one.

src="Sailing%20cropped%202.JPG"

(the %20 is a browser's way to try to 'protect' itself from your space
usage)

2. Be very cautious about using filenames with mixed case letters. Some
server operating systems (*nix, to mention one) are case sensitive, causing
"file.jpg" and "file.JPG" to be interpreted as two different images.

3. Don't resize images in the browser - they will

4. Consider using a simple, three column table to build this website's
layout. Each cell of this table would then contain nested tables with cell
layouts that accommodate your design needs.

5. Don't use points on the web to size your characters. Use pixels, em,
en, ex, percent, or font size names instead.

I'll see if I can get a table layout mocked up for you - we need to get rid
of those layers!

--
Murray
MVP Expression Web


"Anne" <Anne.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:550C2F6A-965C-49C7-9D9E-C3AEBB600999@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for looking at my link. I have tried to use absolute positioning
> but
> can't seem to get it to work in the areas I need it to. This is how I
> would
> like the web page to look. Any help in getting me to this goal is
> extremely
> appreciated.
>
> http://www.nvinvestmentadvisors.com
>
>
> Anne
>
> "Murray" wrote:
>
>> > The website does not appear the same on MAC as on
>> > PC ect.
>>
>> This is the fault of the code on the page. The code on the page is a
>> function of the operator of the software, not the application.
>>
>> In general, using layers to build webpages is a very poor option. The
>> ease
>> of positioning is way offset by the many disadvantages associated with
>> putting your content into absolutely positioned containers (i.e.,
>> 'layers').
>>
>> I'm guessing that if you are having problems creating pages in FP,
>> changing
>> applications is not going to help you.
>>
>> How about you post a link to one of these pages, so that we can examine
>> it
>> and its code?
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>> MVP Expression Web
>>
>>
>> "Anne" <Anne.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:407F3602-70BE-4D0D-B66F-B4466D8D9F4C@microsoft.com...
>> >I currently am using Frontpage 2003 and have had problems with creating
>> >my
>> > own website using layers. The website does not appear the same on MAC
>> > as
>> > on
>> > PC ect. Is there any other software available to make your own website
>> > without using templates, that is easier than Frontpage?
>>
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Anne

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Since: Jun 26, 2006
Posts: 71



(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:03 am
Post subject: Re: Looking for new web design software [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Wow thanks for all of your helpful suggestions. I'm new a this so I will
have to research your suggestions and spend sometime on this but I appreciate
your help very much. If you could suggest a layout to start me out that
would be great.


Thanks again,
Anne





"Murray" wrote:

> You need to re-thinnk your approach to this layout. There is nothing there
> that would suggest the use of absolutely positioned elements. Using them
> will buy you far more trouble than you ever imagined at this point in your
> learning curve.
>
> Here are some suggestions for you:
>
> 1. Do not use file/pathnames that contain spaces. While the space is a
> legal character, some browsers will interpret them to mean that the filename
> has ended when they encounter one.
>
> src="Sailing%20cropped%202.JPG"
>
> (the %20 is a browser's way to try to 'protect' itself from your space
> usage)
>
> 2. Be very cautious about using filenames with mixed case letters. Some
> server operating systems (*nix, to mention one) are case sensitive, causing
> "file.jpg" and "file.JPG" to be interpreted as two different images.
>
> 3. Don't resize images in the browser - they will
>
> 4. Consider using a simple, three column table to build this website's
> layout. Each cell of this table would then contain nested tables with cell
> layouts that accommodate your design needs.
>
> 5. Don't use points on the web to size your characters. Use pixels, em,
> en, ex, percent, or font size names instead.
>
> I'll see if I can get a table layout mocked up for you - we need to get rid
> of those layers!
>
> --
> Murray
> MVP Expression Web
>
>
> "Anne" <Anne.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:550C2F6A-965C-49C7-9D9E-C3AEBB600999@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for looking at my link. I have tried to use absolute positioning
> > but
> > can't seem to get it to work in the areas I need it to. This is how I
> > would
> > like the web page to look. Any help in getting me to this goal is
> > extremely
> > appreciated.
> >
> > http://www.nvinvestmentadvisors.com
> >
> >
> > Anne
> >
> > "Murray" wrote:
> >
> >> > The website does not appear the same on MAC as on
> >> > PC ect.
> >>
> >> This is the fault of the code on the page. The code on the page is a
> >> function of the operator of the software, not the application.
> >>
> >> In general, using layers to build webpages is a very poor option. The
> >> ease
> >> of positioning is way offset by the many disadvantages associated with
> >> putting your content into absolutely positioned containers (i.e.,
> >> 'layers').
> >>
> >> I'm guessing that if you are having problems creating pages in FP,
> >> changing
> >> applications is not going to help you.
> >>
> >> How about you post a link to one of these pages, so that we can examine
> >> it
> >> and its code?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Murray
> >> MVP Expression Web
> >>
> >>
> >> "Anne" <Anne.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:407F3602-70BE-4D0D-B66F-B4466D8D9F4C@microsoft.com...
> >> >I currently am using Frontpage 2003 and have had problems with creating
> >> >my
> >> > own website using layers. The website does not appear the same on MAC
> >> > as
> >> > on
> >> > PC ect. Is there any other software available to make your own website
> >> > without using templates, that is easier than Frontpage?
> >>
>
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Anne

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Since: Jun 26, 2006
Posts: 71



(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Looking for new web design software [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I am starting to understand this thinking. I have found a website that I
would like to find a template similar too:
http://www.oldmissioninvestment.com

How do I find a template to get started?





"Murray" wrote:

> You need to re-thinnk your approach to this layout. There is nothing there
> that would suggest the use of absolutely positioned elements. Using them
> will buy you far more trouble than you ever imagined at this point in your
> learning curve.
>
> Here are some suggestions for you:
>
> 1. Do not use file/pathnames that contain spaces. While the space is a
> legal character, some browsers will interpret them to mean that the filename
> has ended when they encounter one.
>
> src="Sailing%20cropped%202.JPG"
>
> (the %20 is a browser's way to try to 'protect' itself from your space
> usage)
>
> 2. Be very cautious about using filenames with mixed case letters. Some
> server operating systems (*nix, to mention one) are case sensitive, causing
> "file.jpg" and "file.JPG" to be interpreted as two different images.
>
> 3. Don't resize images in the browser - they will
>
> 4. Consider using a simple, three column table to build this website's
> layout. Each cell of this table would then contain nested tables with cell
> layouts that accommodate your design needs.
>
> 5. Don't use points on the web to size your characters. Use pixels, em,
> en, ex, percent, or font size names instead.
>
> I'll see if I can get a table layout mocked up for you - we need to get rid
> of those layers!
>
> --
> Murray
> MVP Expression Web
>
>
> "Anne" <Anne.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:550C2F6A-965C-49C7-9D9E-C3AEBB600999@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for looking at my link. I have tried to use absolute positioning
> > but
> > can't seem to get it to work in the areas I need it to. This is how I
> > would
> > like the web page to look. Any help in getting me to this goal is
> > extremely
> > appreciated.
> >
> > http://www.nvinvestmentadvisors.com
> >
> >
> > Anne
> >
> > "Murray" wrote:
> >
> >> > The website does not appear the same on MAC as on
> >> > PC ect.
> >>
> >> This is the fault of the code on the page. The code on the page is a
> >> function of the operator of the software, not the application.
> >>
> >> In general, using layers to build webpages is a very poor option. The
> >> ease
> >> of positioning is way offset by the many disadvantages associated with
> >> putting your content into absolutely positioned containers (i.e.,
> >> 'layers').
> >>
> >> I'm guessing that if you are having problems creating pages in FP,
> >> changing
> >> applications is not going to help you.
> >>
> >> How about you post a link to one of these pages, so that we can examine
> >> it
> >> and its code?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Murray
> >> MVP Expression Web
> >>
> >>
> >> "Anne" <Anne.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:407F3602-70BE-4D0D-B66F-B4466D8D9F4C@microsoft.com...
> >> >I currently am using Frontpage 2003 and have had problems with creating
> >> >my
> >> > own website using layers. The website does not appear the same on MAC
> >> > as
> >> > on
> >> > PC ect. Is there any other software available to make your own website
> >> > without using templates, that is easier than Frontpage?
> >>
>
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