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Ivan A. Vasilyev

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Since: Sep 24, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:07 pm
Post subject: usability problem Add to elertz
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>visio>troubleshoot (more info?)

Hello

I use Visio 2007 and some strange problem arised recently. When I edit text
in any shape in any type of diagram some keyboard keys work not as it is
expected. In particular, LEFT arrow key moves cursor to the RIGTH, and RIGTH
arrow key moves cursor to the LEFT. More over, END key moves cursor to the
begining of a text, and HOME key moves cursor (as you already guessed Smile )
to the end of a text.

It is VERY annoying. Any ideas how to fix it?

TIA.
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John Goldsmith

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Since: Jul 02, 2007
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:07 pm
Post subject: Re: usability problem Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hello Ivan,

Sounds like you've somehow changed to a right-to-left language such as
Hebrew or Arabic. You can select the text, for existing text, and
right-click and select Format text..., then change the language to English
(US) or another left-to-right language. However for new text / documents
you might want to check the selected keyboard language under Control Panel /
Regional and Language Options / Languages.

For more information on right-to-left languages in Visio, check out this
link:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/visio/HP010500021033.aspx

Hope that helps.

Best regards

John


John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.co.uk

"Ivan A. Vasilyev" <vasilyevia.RemoveThis@yandex.ru> wrote in message
news:%23S9%23Wsp$HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hello
>
> I use Visio 2007 and some strange problem arised recently. When I edit
> text in any shape in any type of diagram some keyboard keys work not as it
> is expected. In particular, LEFT arrow key moves cursor to the RIGTH, and
> RIGTH arrow key moves cursor to the LEFT. More over, END key moves cursor
> to the begining of a text, and HOME key moves cursor (as you already
> guessed Smile ) to the end of a text.
>
> It is VERY annoying. Any ideas how to fix it?
>
> TIA.
>
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Ivan A. Vasilyev

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Since: Sep 24, 2007
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:44 pm
Post subject: Re: usability problem Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hello, John.

Thanks for the response.
I've checked my Regional Options and it is correct. "Text format" command
also shows correct settings.
It seems to be some other problem. May be related but other...
Unfortunately, I can't remember when this problem arised. So I can't even
imagine what caused the problem.
May be you have any other ideas?

TIA


"John Goldsmith" <FirstName.LastName.DeleteThis@visualsignals.co.uk> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ ×
ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ: news:OhJNvsq$HHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello Ivan,
>
> Sounds like you've somehow changed to a right-to-left language such as
> Hebrew or Arabic. You can select the text, for existing text, and
> right-click and select Format text..., then change the language to English
> (US) or another left-to-right language. However for new text / documents
> you might want to check the selected keyboard language under Control Panel
> / Regional and Language Options / Languages.
>
> For more information on right-to-left languages in Visio, check out this
> link:
>
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/visio/HP010500021033.aspx
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Best regards
>
> John
>
>
> John Goldsmith
> www.visualSignals.co.uk
>
> "Ivan A. Vasilyev" <vasilyevia.DeleteThis@yandex.ru> wrote in message
> news:%23S9%23Wsp$HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hello
>>
>> I use Visio 2007 and some strange problem arised recently. When I edit
>> text in any shape in any type of diagram some keyboard keys work not as
>> it is expected. In particular, LEFT arrow key moves cursor to the RIGTH,
>> and RIGTH arrow key moves cursor to the LEFT. More over, END key moves
>> cursor to the begining of a text, and HOME key moves cursor (as you
>> already guessed Smile ) to the end of a text.
>>
>> It is VERY annoying. Any ideas how to fix it?
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>
>
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Mark Nelson [MS]

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Since: Nov 11, 2003
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:54 pm
Post subject: Re: usability problem Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In Visio there is a paragraph direction button on the toolbar that appears
if you have any Right-to-Left languages installed on your system. What you
describe sounds like the button is set to Right-to-Left paragraphs.

--
Mark Nelson
Office Graphics - Visio
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Ivan A. Vasilyev" <vasilyevia.RemoveThis@yandex.ru> wrote in message
news:Oi87fE2$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello, John.
>
> Thanks for the response.
> I've checked my Regional Options and it is correct. "Text format" command
> also shows correct settings.
> It seems to be some other problem. May be related but other...
> Unfortunately, I can't remember when this problem arised. So I can't even
> imagine what caused the problem.
> May be you have any other ideas?
>
> TIA
>
>
> "John Goldsmith" <FirstName.LastName.RemoveThis@visualsignals.co.uk> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ
> ×
> ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ: news:OhJNvsq$HHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hello Ivan,
>>
>> Sounds like you've somehow changed to a right-to-left language such as
>> Hebrew or Arabic. You can select the text, for existing text, and
>> right-click and select Format text..., then change the language to
>> English
>> (US) or another left-to-right language. However for new text / documents
>> you might want to check the selected keyboard language under Control
>> Panel
>> / Regional and Language Options / Languages.
>>
>> For more information on right-to-left languages in Visio, check out this
>> link:
>>
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/visio/HP010500021033.aspx
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> John Goldsmith
>> www.visualSignals.co.uk
>>
>> "Ivan A. Vasilyev" <vasilyevia.RemoveThis@yandex.ru> wrote in message
>> news:%23S9%23Wsp$HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I use Visio 2007 and some strange problem arised recently. When I edit
>>> text in any shape in any type of diagram some keyboard keys work not as
>>> it is expected. In particular, LEFT arrow key moves cursor to the RIGTH,
>>> and RIGTH arrow key moves cursor to the LEFT. More over, END key moves
>>> cursor to the begining of a text, and HOME key moves cursor (as you
>>> already guessed Smile ) to the end of a text.
>>>
>>> It is VERY annoying. Any ideas how to fix it?
>>>
>>> TIA.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Ivan A. Vasilyev

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Since: Sep 24, 2007
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:11 pm
Post subject: Re: usability problem Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hello, Mark.

The buttons you mentioned are only visible during toolbar "customization
mode". So i conclude i have no any Right-to-Left languages installed.
Actually, i have two input languages installed: English (US) and Russian.
None of them are of right-to-left type.
It seems to be something out of the scope of designed behavior. But i still
hope to fix it )
TIA


"Mark Nelson [MS]" <marknel.DeleteThis@online.microsoft.com> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ ×
ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ: news:OBdg2GAAIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> In Visio there is a paragraph direction button on the toolbar that appears
> if you have any Right-to-Left languages installed on your system. What
> you describe sounds like the button is set to Right-to-Left paragraphs.
>
> --
> Mark Nelson
> Office Graphics - Visio
> Microsoft Corporation
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> "Ivan A. Vasilyev" <vasilyevia.DeleteThis@yandex.ru> wrote in message
> news:Oi87fE2$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hello, John.
>>
>> Thanks for the response.
>> I've checked my Regional Options and it is correct. "Text format" command
>> also shows correct settings.
>> It seems to be some other problem. May be related but other...
>> Unfortunately, I can't remember when this problem arised. So I can't even
>> imagine what caused the problem.
>> May be you have any other ideas?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>> "John Goldsmith" <FirstName.LastName.DeleteThis@visualsignals.co.uk>
>> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ ×
>> ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ: news:OhJNvsq$HHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello Ivan,
>>>
>>> Sounds like you've somehow changed to a right-to-left language such as
>>> Hebrew or Arabic. You can select the text, for existing text, and
>>> right-click and select Format text..., then change the language to
>>> English
>>> (US) or another left-to-right language. However for new text /
>>> documents
>>> you might want to check the selected keyboard language under Control
>>> Panel
>>> / Regional and Language Options / Languages.
>>>
>>> For more information on right-to-left languages in Visio, check out this
>>> link:
>>>
>>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/visio/HP010500021033.aspx
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> John Goldsmith
>>> www.visualSignals.co.uk
>>>
>>> "Ivan A. Vasilyev" <vasilyevia.DeleteThis@yandex.ru> wrote in message
>>> news:%23S9%23Wsp$HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> I use Visio 2007 and some strange problem arised recently. When I edit
>>>> text in any shape in any type of diagram some keyboard keys work not as
>>>> it is expected. In particular, LEFT arrow key moves cursor to the
>>>> RIGTH,
>>>> and RIGTH arrow key moves cursor to the LEFT. More over, END key moves
>>>> cursor to the begining of a text, and HOME key moves cursor (as you
>>>> already guessed Smile ) to the end of a text.
>>>>
>>>> It is VERY annoying. Any ideas how to fix it?
>>>>
>>>> TIA.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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DiRTy GaRRy

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Since: Nov 15, 2007
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:14 pm
Post subject: Re: usability problem Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Do you found any solution for your problem? I have some problem in
similar enviroment: Windows Server 2003 R2 SP2, Visio 2007 with
Russian MUI, Russian and English input laguages, right-to-left
langauges support installed.
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Ivan A. Vasilyev

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:18 pm
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Not yet. But the hope is still alive. Smile

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> Do you found any solution for your problem? I have some problem in
> similar enviroment: Windows Server 2003 R2 SP2, Visio 2007 with
> Russian MUI, Russian and English input laguages, right-to-left
> langauges support installed.
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Apc

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Since: Feb 15, 2008
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:24 am
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Hello. This is exactly what's giong on: if I just use "Text Tool" - the text
is left-to-right, then I bring a shape from a stencil to the scene - and it's
Right-to-Left.

Is there any way to create a VBscript that will run over all the stencils
and change the flag?
Can you provide more info about this very flag as MSDN has nothing on it?
It the worst case, I'd have to HEX-Edit the files flipping bits, because
this issue is sooooo irritating Sad(

"Barb Way" wrote:

> I found that this issue has been logged, but no fix is currently available
> for it. The problem occurs because of a flag setting which incorrectly
> identifies the stencils/templates/shapes as being RTL (Right to Left) for
> language navigation. This occurs in both the original release and in SP1,
> unfortunately. I'm not aware of work arounds right now.
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