link/upload ques - how do you create absolute links?

Must have been a bug between my ISP and yours
They work OK now

Spike

"Spike" <woodchipsnospam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oxi6gJwAJHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I see you fixed the links to the pdf's
>
> http://shhrc.org/forms/bus-aspects.pdf
> http://shhrc.org/forms/skill-treat-2.pdf
>
> I do not get the pdf's
> Did you rename them and post them in the forms directory?
>
> Spike
>
>
> "Denise" <Denise.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:45CDF195-2ACC-46F7-AC72-167269600A9E@microsoft.com...
>> Thank you all so much! I could not have done this without you.
>> Everything seems to be working, incl. in FF, except for one bookmark. If
>> there's no easy fix, I'll take it out. I'm using Pub 2007. On shhrc.org,
>> from the home page, there's a bookmark at Premier Accredited Center.
>> You'll
>> see what it does in FF.
>> Again thank you so much!
>> --
>> Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>>
>>
>> "DavidF" wrote:
>>
>>> Denise,
>>>
>>> Both Spike and I have addressed your pdf question...
>>>
>>> As per the links. Please always give specifics. We don't have time to
>>> look
>>> at every page and test every link, and we are likely to miss some
>>> anyway.
>>> Also, even if you posted it before, always give us your Publisher
>>> version.
>>> Each version works a bit different.
>>>
>>> With that said, I see that on your home page http://shhrc.org/ the links
>>> in
>>> the main text such as the one for: "For more information on Equine
>>> assisted
>>> activities and therapy." do not work, and yet on
>>> http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page1964.htm the links work. I suspect that
>>> is
>>> because you have grouped your text boxes on the home page with some
>>> other
>>> design elements, and you did not on the Staff page. When you grouped it,
>>> it
>>> converted all that text into an image, which can kill the links. Try
>>> left
>>> click drag to try to select some of the text on your home page and you
>>> will
>>> see that you can't...tis a picture. So, assuming that is what you did,
>>> now
>>> that you have everything arranged, ungroup the text box and test it
>>> again.
>>>
>>> One other place where the links always fail in FF is when you use a
>>> bottom
>>> navbar in Publisher...tis a bug. It too is converted to an image and the
>>> links won't work in FF. Once again the solution is to ungroup that
>>> navbar
>>> from the vertical navbar in the left column that you created using the
>>> wizard. Select the bottom navbar > Arrange > Ungroup. Now, before you do
>>> this, note that this will also disconnect that navbar from the wizard,
>>> so if
>>> you decide to change your site...add another page with a new navbar
>>> button,
>>> that link will not show up in the bottom navbar...you will have to add
>>> it
>>> manually. So wait until you are pretty sure that you are finished with
>>> the
>>> organization of the site and then do it. Worse case, edit manually, or
>>> you
>>> could rebuild your navbar.
>>>
>>> Now if you have other links that are failing in FF, post back and give
>>> us a
>>> link to that page, and be specific.
>>>
>>> One thing you did not ask about but you should do is to compress your
>>> graphics before you upload them. Right now they are very slow loading.
>>>
>>> Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web
>>> pages (2003):
>>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx
>>>
>>> Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
>>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033
>>>
>>> Good job on the design though...how did you make the "rounded corner
>>> text"
>>> boxes? Are you using Pub 2007?
>>>
>>> DavidF
>>>
>>>
>>> "Denise" <Denise.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
>>> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs
>>> > work.
>>> > 2
>>> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
>>> > pdf's.
>>> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong,
>>> > but
>>> > one
>>> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work
>>> > on
>>> > IE).
>>> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute
>>> > links
>>> > but I
>>> > don't know how
>>> > --
>>> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

You are welcome.

The link works just fine. It is the page that has the problem:
http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page4297.htm The blue background image you are
using on each page is not working correctly. I get a dark, gradient fill
instead. I assume that is what you are talking about?

I asked in my previous post how you built that rounded edge background, and
now I would suggest that you study what you did on that page that is
different than the other pages, and you will find your solution. If you used
"bring forward" or send to back or some other series of Arrange commands,
perhaps that is the problem. Perhaps the whole thing is off the page
slightly in the scratch area. Perhaps run Design Checker under Tools on that
page and see if that helps you find the problem. If all else fails, rebuild
the background on that page.

One thing I notice is that you apparently still have the "allow Png..."
option checked, as that blue background is a huge PNG file in FF. Here is an
example: http://shhrc.org/index_files/image4419.png That image is
approaching 1 meg in size and as a result takes almost 5 minutes to download
on my machine with dial-up. In IE, the background is not converted to an
image...different code for IE. The good news is the content of your page
loads quickly, so I didn't have to wait to read that. I would suggest that
you try unchecking the PNG option and see if the background becomes
something easier to load than the PNG. It is possible that it will only
become a slightly smaller GIF, and not look as good as the PNG, but you
might want to try it...and at least should be aware of it...

DavidF

"Denise" <Denise DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:45CDF195-2ACC-46F7-AC72-167269600A9E@microsoft.com...
> Thank you all so much! I could not have done this without you.
> Everything seems to be working, incl. in FF, except for one bookmark. If
> there's no easy fix, I'll take it out. I'm using Pub 2007. On shhrc.org,
> from the home page, there's a bookmark at Premier Accredited Center.
> You'll
> see what it does in FF.
> Again thank you so much!
> --
> Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>
>> Denise,
>>
>> Both Spike and I have addressed your pdf question...
>>
>> As per the links. Please always give specifics. We don't have time to
>> look
>> at every page and test every link, and we are likely to miss some anyway.
>> Also, even if you posted it before, always give us your Publisher
>> version.
>> Each version works a bit different.
>>
>> With that said, I see that on your home page http://shhrc.org/ the links
>> in
>> the main text such as the one for: "For more information on Equine
>> assisted
>> activities and therapy." do not work, and yet on
>> http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page1964.htm the links work. I suspect that
>> is
>> because you have grouped your text boxes on the home page with some other
>> design elements, and you did not on the Staff page. When you grouped it,
>> it
>> converted all that text into an image, which can kill the links. Try left
>> click drag to try to select some of the text on your home page and you
>> will
>> see that you can't...tis a picture. So, assuming that is what you did,
>> now
>> that you have everything arranged, ungroup the text box and test it
>> again.
>>
>> One other place where the links always fail in FF is when you use a
>> bottom
>> navbar in Publisher...tis a bug. It too is converted to an image and the
>> links won't work in FF. Once again the solution is to ungroup that navbar
>> from the vertical navbar in the left column that you created using the
>> wizard. Select the bottom navbar > Arrange > Ungroup. Now, before you do
>> this, note that this will also disconnect that navbar from the wizard, so
>> if
>> you decide to change your site...add another page with a new navbar
>> button,
>> that link will not show up in the bottom navbar...you will have to add it
>> manually. So wait until you are pretty sure that you are finished with
>> the
>> organization of the site and then do it. Worse case, edit manually, or
>> you
>> could rebuild your navbar.
>>
>> Now if you have other links that are failing in FF, post back and give us
>> a
>> link to that page, and be specific.
>>
>> One thing you did not ask about but you should do is to compress your
>> graphics before you upload them. Right now they are very slow loading.
>>
>> Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web
>> pages (2003):
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx
>>
>> Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033
>>
>> Good job on the design though...how did you make the "rounded corner
>> text"
>> boxes? Are you using Pub 2007?
>>
>> DavidF
>>
>>
>> "Denise" <Denise DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs
>> > work.
>> > 2
>> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
>> > pdf's.
>> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong,
>> > but
>> > one
>> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work on
>> > IE).
>> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute links
>> > but I
>> > don't know how
>> > --
>> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>>
>>
>>

It makes sense that the problem is the page, not the link - didn't think of
that. I will play around. The rounded corners came from an autoshape in the
template "Radial", and then I did fill. I'll recreate the page and see if
that fixes it. Thanks again.
--
Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center


"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> The bookmark works in both IE7 & FF, but the page it goes to is messed up.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Rob Giordano
> Microsoft MVP Expression
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Denise" <Denise RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:45CDF195-2ACC-46F7-AC72-167269600A9E@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you all so much! I could not have done this without you.
> > Everything seems to be working, incl. in FF, except for one bookmark. If
> > there's no easy fix, I'll take it out. I'm using Pub 2007. On shhrc.org,
> > from the home page, there's a bookmark at Premier Accredited Center.
> > You'll
> > see what it does in FF.
> > Again thank you so much!
> > --
> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
> >
> >
> > "DavidF" wrote:
> >
> >> Denise,
> >>
> >> Both Spike and I have addressed your pdf question...
> >>
> >> As per the links. Please always give specifics. We don't have time to
> >> look
> >> at every page and test every link, and we are likely to miss some anyway.
> >> Also, even if you posted it before, always give us your Publisher
> >> version.
> >> Each version works a bit different.
> >>
> >> With that said, I see that on your home page http://shhrc.org/ the links
> >> in
> >> the main text such as the one for: "For more information on Equine
> >> assisted
> >> activities and therapy." do not work, and yet on
> >> http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page1964.htm the links work. I suspect that
> >> is
> >> because you have grouped your text boxes on the home page with some other
> >> design elements, and you did not on the Staff page. When you grouped it,
> >> it
> >> converted all that text into an image, which can kill the links. Try left
> >> click drag to try to select some of the text on your home page and you
> >> will
> >> see that you can't...tis a picture. So, assuming that is what you did,
> >> now
> >> that you have everything arranged, ungroup the text box and test it
> >> again.
> >>
> >> One other place where the links always fail in FF is when you use a
> >> bottom
> >> navbar in Publisher...tis a bug. It too is converted to an image and the
> >> links won't work in FF. Once again the solution is to ungroup that navbar
> >> from the vertical navbar in the left column that you created using the
> >> wizard. Select the bottom navbar > Arrange > Ungroup. Now, before you do
> >> this, note that this will also disconnect that navbar from the wizard, so
> >> if
> >> you decide to change your site...add another page with a new navbar
> >> button,
> >> that link will not show up in the bottom navbar...you will have to add it
> >> manually. So wait until you are pretty sure that you are finished with
> >> the
> >> organization of the site and then do it. Worse case, edit manually, or
> >> you
> >> could rebuild your navbar.
> >>
> >> Now if you have other links that are failing in FF, post back and give us
> >> a
> >> link to that page, and be specific.
> >>
> >> One thing you did not ask about but you should do is to compress your
> >> graphics before you upload them. Right now they are very slow loading.
> >>
> >> Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web
> >> pages (2003):
> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx
> >>
> >> Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033
> >>
> >> Good job on the design though...how did you make the "rounded corner
> >> text"
> >> boxes? Are you using Pub 2007?
> >>
> >> DavidF
> >>
> >>
> >> "Denise" <Denise RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs
> >> > work.
> >> > 2
> >> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
> >> > pdf's.
> >> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong,
> >> > but
> >> > one
> >> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work on
> >> > IE).
> >> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute links
> >> > but I
> >> > don't know how
> >> > --
> >> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

I tried your suggestions and they worked. The page looks OK now. I also
turned off "allow png". David, would you try it one more time and let me
know if it still takes 5 min to load? Thanks!
--
Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center


"DavidF" wrote:

> You are welcome.
>
> The link works just fine. It is the page that has the problem:
> http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page4297.htm The blue background image you are
> using on each page is not working correctly. I get a dark, gradient fill
> instead. I assume that is what you are talking about?
>
> I asked in my previous post how you built that rounded edge background, and
> now I would suggest that you study what you did on that page that is
> different than the other pages, and you will find your solution. If you used
> "bring forward" or send to back or some other series of Arrange commands,
> perhaps that is the problem. Perhaps the whole thing is off the page
> slightly in the scratch area. Perhaps run Design Checker under Tools on that
> page and see if that helps you find the problem. If all else fails, rebuild
> the background on that page.
>
> One thing I notice is that you apparently still have the "allow Png..."
> option checked, as that blue background is a huge PNG file in FF. Here is an
> example: http://shhrc.org/index_files/image4419.png That image is
> approaching 1 meg in size and as a result takes almost 5 minutes to download
> on my machine with dial-up. In IE, the background is not converted to an
> image...different code for IE. The good news is the content of your page
> loads quickly, so I didn't have to wait to read that. I would suggest that
> you try unchecking the PNG option and see if the background becomes
> something easier to load than the PNG. It is possible that it will only
> become a slightly smaller GIF, and not look as good as the PNG, but you
> might want to try it...and at least should be aware of it...
>
> DavidF
>
> "Denise" <Denise.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:45CDF195-2ACC-46F7-AC72-167269600A9E@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you all so much! I could not have done this without you.
> > Everything seems to be working, incl. in FF, except for one bookmark. If
> > there's no easy fix, I'll take it out. I'm using Pub 2007. On shhrc.org,
> > from the home page, there's a bookmark at Premier Accredited Center.
> > You'll
> > see what it does in FF.
> > Again thank you so much!
> > --
> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
> >
> >
> > "DavidF" wrote:
> >
> >> Denise,
> >>
> >> Both Spike and I have addressed your pdf question...
> >>
> >> As per the links. Please always give specifics. We don't have time to
> >> look
> >> at every page and test every link, and we are likely to miss some anyway.
> >> Also, even if you posted it before, always give us your Publisher
> >> version.
> >> Each version works a bit different.
> >>
> >> With that said, I see that on your home page http://shhrc.org/ the links
> >> in
> >> the main text such as the one for: "For more information on Equine
> >> assisted
> >> activities and therapy." do not work, and yet on
> >> http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page1964.htm the links work. I suspect that
> >> is
> >> because you have grouped your text boxes on the home page with some other
> >> design elements, and you did not on the Staff page. When you grouped it,
> >> it
> >> converted all that text into an image, which can kill the links. Try left
> >> click drag to try to select some of the text on your home page and you
> >> will
> >> see that you can't...tis a picture. So, assuming that is what you did,
> >> now
> >> that you have everything arranged, ungroup the text box and test it
> >> again.
> >>
> >> One other place where the links always fail in FF is when you use a
> >> bottom
> >> navbar in Publisher...tis a bug. It too is converted to an image and the
> >> links won't work in FF. Once again the solution is to ungroup that navbar
> >> from the vertical navbar in the left column that you created using the
> >> wizard. Select the bottom navbar > Arrange > Ungroup. Now, before you do
> >> this, note that this will also disconnect that navbar from the wizard, so
> >> if
> >> you decide to change your site...add another page with a new navbar
> >> button,
> >> that link will not show up in the bottom navbar...you will have to add it
> >> manually. So wait until you are pretty sure that you are finished with
> >> the
> >> organization of the site and then do it. Worse case, edit manually, or
> >> you
> >> could rebuild your navbar.
> >>
> >> Now if you have other links that are failing in FF, post back and give us
> >> a
> >> link to that page, and be specific.
> >>
> >> One thing you did not ask about but you should do is to compress your
> >> graphics before you upload them. Right now they are very slow loading.
> >>
> >> Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web
> >> pages (2003):
> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx
> >>
> >> Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033
> >>
> >> Good job on the design though...how did you make the "rounded corner
> >> text"
> >> boxes? Are you using Pub 2007?
> >>
> >> DavidF
> >>
> >>
> >> "Denise" <Denise.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs
> >> > work.
> >> > 2
> >> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
> >> > pdf's.
> >> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong,
> >> > but
> >> > one
> >> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work on
> >> > IE).
> >> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute links
> >> > but I
> >> > don't know how
> >> > --
> >> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Most image links on the home page are broken, only two images visible, links
to all other pages ... pages are missing (404).



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






"Denise" <Denise RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:343DCE25-EB65-4638-BD54-513A545A9A86@microsoft.com...
> I tried your suggestions and they worked. The page looks OK now. I also
> turned off "allow png". David, would you try it one more time and let me
> know if it still takes 5 min to load? Thanks!
> --
> Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>
>> You are welcome.
>>
>> The link works just fine. It is the page that has the problem:
>> http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page4297.htm The blue background image you
>> are
>> using on each page is not working correctly. I get a dark, gradient fill
>> instead. I assume that is what you are talking about?
>>
>> I asked in my previous post how you built that rounded edge background,
>> and
>> now I would suggest that you study what you did on that page that is
>> different than the other pages, and you will find your solution. If you
>> used
>> "bring forward" or send to back or some other series of Arrange commands,
>> perhaps that is the problem. Perhaps the whole thing is off the page
>> slightly in the scratch area. Perhaps run Design Checker under Tools on
>> that
>> page and see if that helps you find the problem. If all else fails,
>> rebuild
>> the background on that page.
>>
>> One thing I notice is that you apparently still have the "allow Png..."
>> option checked, as that blue background is a huge PNG file in FF. Here is
>> an
>> example: http://shhrc.org/index_files/image4419.png That image is
>> approaching 1 meg in size and as a result takes almost 5 minutes to
>> download
>> on my machine with dial-up. In IE, the background is not converted to an
>> image...different code for IE. The good news is the content of your page
>> loads quickly, so I didn't have to wait to read that. I would suggest
>> that
>> you try unchecking the PNG option and see if the background becomes
>> something easier to load than the PNG. It is possible that it will only
>> become a slightly smaller GIF, and not look as good as the PNG, but you
>> might want to try it...and at least should be aware of it...
>>
>> DavidF
>>
>> "Denise" <Denise RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:45CDF195-2ACC-46F7-AC72-167269600A9E@microsoft.com...
>> > Thank you all so much! I could not have done this without you.
>> > Everything seems to be working, incl. in FF, except for one bookmark.
>> > If
>> > there's no easy fix, I'll take it out. I'm using Pub 2007. On
>> > shhrc.org,
>> > from the home page, there's a bookmark at Premier Accredited Center.
>> > You'll
>> > see what it does in FF.
>> > Again thank you so much!
>> > --
>> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>> >
>> >
>> > "DavidF" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Denise,
>> >>
>> >> Both Spike and I have addressed your pdf question...
>> >>
>> >> As per the links. Please always give specifics. We don't have time to
>> >> look
>> >> at every page and test every link, and we are likely to miss some
>> >> anyway.
>> >> Also, even if you posted it before, always give us your Publisher
>> >> version.
>> >> Each version works a bit different.
>> >>
>> >> With that said, I see that on your home page http://shhrc.org/ the
>> >> links
>> >> in
>> >> the main text such as the one for: "For more information on Equine
>> >> assisted
>> >> activities and therapy." do not work, and yet on
>> >> http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page1964.htm the links work. I suspect
>> >> that
>> >> is
>> >> because you have grouped your text boxes on the home page with some
>> >> other
>> >> design elements, and you did not on the Staff page. When you grouped
>> >> it,
>> >> it
>> >> converted all that text into an image, which can kill the links. Try
>> >> left
>> >> click drag to try to select some of the text on your home page and you
>> >> will
>> >> see that you can't...tis a picture. So, assuming that is what you did,
>> >> now
>> >> that you have everything arranged, ungroup the text box and test it
>> >> again.
>> >>
>> >> One other place where the links always fail in FF is when you use a
>> >> bottom
>> >> navbar in Publisher...tis a bug. It too is converted to an image and
>> >> the
>> >> links won't work in FF. Once again the solution is to ungroup that
>> >> navbar
>> >> from the vertical navbar in the left column that you created using the
>> >> wizard. Select the bottom navbar > Arrange > Ungroup. Now, before you
>> >> do
>> >> this, note that this will also disconnect that navbar from the wizard,
>> >> so
>> >> if
>> >> you decide to change your site...add another page with a new navbar
>> >> button,
>> >> that link will not show up in the bottom navbar...you will have to add
>> >> it
>> >> manually. So wait until you are pretty sure that you are finished with
>> >> the
>> >> organization of the site and then do it. Worse case, edit manually, or
>> >> you
>> >> could rebuild your navbar.
>> >>
>> >> Now if you have other links that are failing in FF, post back and give
>> >> us
>> >> a
>> >> link to that page, and be specific.
>> >>
>> >> One thing you did not ask about but you should do is to compress your
>> >> graphics before you upload them. Right now they are very slow loading.
>> >>
>> >> Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher
>> >> Web
>> >> pages (2003):
>> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx
>> >>
>> >> Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
>> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033
>> >>
>> >> Good job on the design though...how did you make the "rounded corner
>> >> text"
>> >> boxes? Are you using Pub 2007?
>> >>
>> >> DavidF
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Denise" <Denise RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs
>> >> > work.
>> >> > 2
>> >> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
>> >> > pdf's.
>> >> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong,
>> >> > but
>> >> > one
>> >> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work
>> >> > on
>> >> > IE).
>> >> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute
>> >> > links
>> >> > but I
>> >> > don't know how
>> >> > --
>> >> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Hi Denise,

In FireFox the background has been turned into a GIF instead of a PNG this
time, and it is smaller at 170KB, and loads quicker.
http://shhrc.org/index_files/image320.gif

But in fact, your pages and specifically the images looked better with the
PNG option. Larger image sizes, but cleaner images. Even your "banner" and
menu buttons looked better as PNGs. You might have to go with the PNG option
for better looking pages in FF, even if they do take longer to load.

Did you compress your images after unticking the PNG option, and before
republishing? If you insert a jpg image into your page, and resize it on the
page to less than 100% of it's original size, and do not compress it, then
when you publish that page, Publisher will make either a lower quality gif
copy of that image, or a PNG if you have that option selected. However, if
you compress the image before publishing, Publisher will resample and resize
that image, and produce just a smaller size version of that image in JPG
format. There are images that I think were originally inserted as jpgs that
are being converted to lower quality gif files this time, and better looking
png files the last time, though larger in file size. If you compress all the
images before publishing with the PNG option unchecked, those jpg images
would stay jpg images and maintain that quality. Try that and compare the
quality of the graphics in FF.

To test this out, without making any changes to your Pub file, Publish to
the Web, and direct your output to a folder on your computer. Then compress
all the images in your Pub file, and publish to a different folder on your
computer, and open the .htm files in FF, and compare them side by side.
Compare the index.htm files of both before and after compressing. Then check
the option to allow PNGs, compress, and publish to yet a third folder on
your computer, and open those .htm files. You can open all three home pages
(index.htm) in different tabs in FF...or different windows. My hope is that
after compressing the images, the quality will be comparable to the quality
of the version using PNGs. Let me know what you discover if you have time.

By the way, I didn't have the same experience as Rob. The images were there,
and the links worked. He probably looked at your pages before you got the
index_files folder uploaded.

DavidF

"Denise" <Denise.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:343DCE25-EB65-4638-BD54-513A545A9A86@microsoft.com...
>I tried your suggestions and they worked. The page looks OK now. I also
> turned off "allow png". David, would you try it one more time and let me
> know if it still takes 5 min to load? Thanks!
> --
> Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>
>> You are welcome.
>>
>> The link works just fine. It is the page that has the problem:
>> http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page4297.htm The blue background image you
>> are
>> using on each page is not working correctly. I get a dark, gradient fill
>> instead. I assume that is what you are talking about?
>>
>> I asked in my previous post how you built that rounded edge background,
>> and
>> now I would suggest that you study what you did on that page that is
>> different than the other pages, and you will find your solution. If you
>> used
>> "bring forward" or send to back or some other series of Arrange commands,
>> perhaps that is the problem. Perhaps the whole thing is off the page
>> slightly in the scratch area. Perhaps run Design Checker under Tools on
>> that
>> page and see if that helps you find the problem. If all else fails,
>> rebuild
>> the background on that page.
>>
>> One thing I notice is that you apparently still have the "allow Png..."
>> option checked, as that blue background is a huge PNG file in FF. Here is
>> an
>> example: http://shhrc.org/index_files/image4419.png That image is
>> approaching 1 meg in size and as a result takes almost 5 minutes to
>> download
>> on my machine with dial-up. In IE, the background is not converted to an
>> image...different code for IE. The good news is the content of your page
>> loads quickly, so I didn't have to wait to read that. I would suggest
>> that
>> you try unchecking the PNG option and see if the background becomes
>> something easier to load than the PNG. It is possible that it will only
>> become a slightly smaller GIF, and not look as good as the PNG, but you
>> might want to try it...and at least should be aware of it...
>>
>> DavidF
>>
>> "Denise" <Denise.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:45CDF195-2ACC-46F7-AC72-167269600A9E@microsoft.com...
>> > Thank you all so much! I could not have done this without you.
>> > Everything seems to be working, incl. in FF, except for one bookmark.
>> > If
>> > there's no easy fix, I'll take it out. I'm using Pub 2007. On
>> > shhrc.org,
>> > from the home page, there's a bookmark at Premier Accredited Center.
>> > You'll
>> > see what it does in FF.
>> > Again thank you so much!
>> > --
>> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>> >
>> >
>> > "DavidF" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Denise,
>> >>
>> >> Both Spike and I have addressed your pdf question...
>> >>
>> >> As per the links. Please always give specifics. We don't have time to
>> >> look
>> >> at every page and test every link, and we are likely to miss some
>> >> anyway.
>> >> Also, even if you posted it before, always give us your Publisher
>> >> version.
>> >> Each version works a bit different.
>> >>
>> >> With that said, I see that on your home page http://shhrc.org/ the
>> >> links
>> >> in
>> >> the main text such as the one for: "For more information on Equine
>> >> assisted
>> >> activities and therapy." do not work, and yet on
>> >> http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page1964.htm the links work. I suspect
>> >> that
>> >> is
>> >> because you have grouped your text boxes on the home page with some
>> >> other
>> >> design elements, and you did not on the Staff page. When you grouped
>> >> it,
>> >> it
>> >> converted all that text into an image, which can kill the links. Try
>> >> left
>> >> click drag to try to select some of the text on your home page and you
>> >> will
>> >> see that you can't...tis a picture. So, assuming that is what you did,
>> >> now
>> >> that you have everything arranged, ungroup the text box and test it
>> >> again.
>> >>
>> >> One other place where the links always fail in FF is when you use a
>> >> bottom
>> >> navbar in Publisher...tis a bug. It too is converted to an image and
>> >> the
>> >> links won't work in FF. Once again the solution is to ungroup that
>> >> navbar
>> >> from the vertical navbar in the left column that you created using the
>> >> wizard. Select the bottom navbar > Arrange > Ungroup. Now, before you
>> >> do
>> >> this, note that this will also disconnect that navbar from the wizard,
>> >> so
>> >> if
>> >> you decide to change your site...add another page with a new navbar
>> >> button,
>> >> that link will not show up in the bottom navbar...you will have to add
>> >> it
>> >> manually. So wait until you are pretty sure that you are finished with
>> >> the
>> >> organization of the site and then do it. Worse case, edit manually, or
>> >> you
>> >> could rebuild your navbar.
>> >>
>> >> Now if you have other links that are failing in FF, post back and give
>> >> us
>> >> a
>> >> link to that page, and be specific.
>> >>
>> >> One thing you did not ask about but you should do is to compress your
>> >> graphics before you upload them. Right now they are very slow loading.
>> >>
>> >> Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher
>> >> Web
>> >> pages (2003):
>> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx
>> >>
>> >> Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
>> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033
>> >>
>> >> Good job on the design though...how did you make the "rounded corner
>> >> text"
>> >> boxes? Are you using Pub 2007?
>> >>
>> >> DavidF
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Denise" <Denise.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs
>> >> > work.
>> >> > 2
>> >> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
>> >> > pdf's.
>> >> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong,
>> >> > but
>> >> > one
>> >> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work
>> >> > on
>> >> > IE).
>> >> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute
>> >> > links
>> >> > but I
>> >> > don't know how
>> >> > --
>> >> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>