link/upload ques - how do you create absolute links?

We updated the folder to the server at the same level as index and
index_files and they look like they're there. I don't understand why it
doesn't refer to them. I'm sure I'm missing something . . .
--
Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center


"Spike" wrote:

> The site is looking good in IE 7 on Vista OS
>
> Look at page "Our Facility" there is a picture hanging out on the left
>
> You have done well
>
> As for the PDF's
> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Eq Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf
> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Bus aspects of hippo brochure & reg.pdf
>
> Your links appear to be directed to the S drive on a computer Oops!
> PDF's should be placed on the internet server with your web site and linked
> to their directory
>
> All in All GREAT job
>
> Spike
>
>
> "Denise" <Denise.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs work.
> > 2
> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
> > pdf's.
> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong, but
> > one
> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work on
> > IE).
> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute links
> > but I
> > don't know how
> > --
> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>
>

I just re-read my last post and realized I wasn't very clear. First, thanks
for your comments - I wantd to know what some knowledgeable people thought of
the site.

What I was talking about was the fact that the links to pdf's are trying to
go to my server, and that isn't even the lastest version of them. I uploaded
everything again, incl. some changes. Does the order of upload matter?
Should my forms folder be at the same level as the index? Even when I
publish it to my desktop, it's not looking at the latesd version of the
forms. Help!
--
Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center


"Spike" wrote:

> The site is looking good in IE 7 on Vista OS
>
> Look at page "Our Facility" there is a picture hanging out on the left
>
> You have done well
>
> As for the PDF's
> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Eq Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf
> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Bus aspects of hippo brochure & reg.pdf
>
> Your links appear to be directed to the S drive on a computer Oops!
> PDF's should be placed on the internet server with your web site and linked
> to their directory
>
> All in All GREAT job
>
> Spike
>
>
> "Denise" <Denise.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs work.
> > 2
> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
> > pdf's.
> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong, but
> > one
> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work on
> > IE).
> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute links
> > but I
> > don't know how
> > --
> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>
>

The pdf's need to be on the same server as the web site
Then the links on the workshops page need to be changed to reflect the
location of the pdf files
You have the right idea but the hyperlinks are incorrect

Your link reads
S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Eq Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf
The link is directing the user to a harddrive S: (somewhere) in sub
directories \Website\Web Pub\Forms

Should read something like
http://www.shhrc.org/forms/skil_001.pdf

In the above example the PDF is in a folder named "forms" in the root
directory
Be careful of upper case letters in links My self I prefer ALL lower
case letters in links and no spaces
Suggestion rename the PDF's for ease of creating links
Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf could be skill_001.pdf

Spike


"Denise" <Denise.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF66DD59-EBAD-484F-B7F3-0E3BC98FDB94@microsoft.com...
>I just re-read my last post and realized I wasn't very clear. First,
>thanks
> for your comments - I wantd to know what some knowledgeable people thought
> of
> the site.
>
> What I was talking about was the fact that the links to pdf's are trying
> to
> go to my server, and that isn't even the lastest version of them. I
> uploaded
> everything again, incl. some changes. Does the order of upload matter?
> Should my forms folder be at the same level as the index? Even when I
> publish it to my desktop, it's not looking at the latesd version of the
> forms. Help!
> --
> Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>
>
> "Spike" wrote:
>
>> The site is looking good in IE 7 on Vista OS
>>
>> Look at page "Our Facility" there is a picture hanging out on the left
>>
>> You have done well
>>
>> As for the PDF's
>> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Eq Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf
>> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Bus aspects of hippo brochure & reg.pdf
>>
>> Your links appear to be directed to the S drive on a computer Oops!
>> PDF's should be placed on the internet server with your web site and
>> linked
>> to their directory
>>
>> All in All GREAT job
>>
>> Spike
>>
>>
>> "Denise" <Denise.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs
>> > work.
>> > 2
>> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
>> > pdf's.
>> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong,
>> > but
>> > one
>> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work on
>> > IE).
>> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute links
>> > but I
>> > don't know how
>> > --
>> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>>
>>

Denise,

I will address your pdf issue here. Yes, the "Forms" folder should be at the
same directory level as the index.htm file and the index_files folder. I
would not put it in the index_files folder as you will be periodically
updating that folder, and you don't want to have to upload the "Forms"
folder again.

Assuming that you created a folder called "forms" on your host at the same
level as your web files, and uploaded your
files to that folder, then write an absolute link to the file, vs a relative
link. Currently it would be:

http://shhrc.org/Forms/Eq Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf


However, this won't work until you rename your files...and you should
probably also rename Forms to forms. In general, when you name your files
avoid using spaces, and do not use other special characters other than
underscores or dashes...that means no "&"...that alone would break the link
even if everything else is correct. I personally also avoid underscores
because when the hyperlink underline is present, you can't tell whether
there is a underscore or a space, and that sets you up for errors. Most
people suggest using only lower case also, as this is another place where it
is easy to make an error. With those "rules" in mind, then your link would
look perhaps like this:

http://shhrc.org/forms/eq-skill-treat-prin-2-broch-reg.pdf
or perhaps
http://shhrc.org/forms/EqSkillTreatPrinIIBrochReg.pdf
or all lower case. The main thing is to decide now how you are going to do
it, and then be consistent or you will have problems. You might also think
seriously about using a much shorter file name...once again, less chance of
making an error.

Including external files in a Publisher web:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/07/80561.aspx
This is an article for more background, though the site seems to be down
right now.

DavidF

"Denise" <Denise.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF66DD59-EBAD-484F-B7F3-0E3BC98FDB94@microsoft.com...
>I just re-read my last post and realized I wasn't very clear. First,
>thanks
> for your comments - I wantd to know what some knowledgeable people thought
> of
> the site.
>
> What I was talking about was the fact that the links to pdf's are trying
> to
> go to my server, and that isn't even the lastest version of them. I
> uploaded
> everything again, incl. some changes. Does the order of upload matter?
> Should my forms folder be at the same level as the index? Even when I
> publish it to my desktop, it's not looking at the latesd version of the
> forms. Help!
> --
> Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>
>
> "Spike" wrote:
>
>> The site is looking good in IE 7 on Vista OS
>>
>> Look at page "Our Facility" there is a picture hanging out on the left
>>
>> You have done well
>>
>> As for the PDF's
>> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Eq Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf
>> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Bus aspects of hippo brochure & reg.pdf
>>
>> Your links appear to be directed to the S drive on a computer Oops!
>> PDF's should be placed on the internet server with your web site and
>> linked
>> to their directory
>>
>> All in All GREAT job
>>
>> Spike
>>
>>
>> "Denise" <Denise.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs
>> > work.
>> > 2
>> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
>> > pdf's.
>> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong,
>> > but
>> > one
>> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work on
>> > IE).
>> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute links
>> > but I
>> > don't know how
>> > --
>> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>>
>>

Sorry, I posted a few minutes after you and didn't see your post. You win
<g>.

DavidF

"Spike" <woodchipsnospam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eJEXiflAJHA.2276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The pdf's need to be on the same server as the web site
> Then the links on the workshops page need to be changed to reflect the
> location of the pdf files
> You have the right idea but the hyperlinks are incorrect
>
> Your link reads
> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Eq Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf
> The link is directing the user to a harddrive S: (somewhere) in sub
> directories \Website\Web Pub\Forms
>
> Should read something like
> http://www.shhrc.org/forms/skil_001.pdf
>
> In the above example the PDF is in a folder named "forms" in the root
> directory
> Be careful of upper case letters in links My self I prefer ALL lower
> case letters in links and no spaces
> Suggestion rename the PDF's for ease of creating links
> Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf could be skill_001.pdf
>
> Spike
>
>
> "Denise" <Denise.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EF66DD59-EBAD-484F-B7F3-0E3BC98FDB94@microsoft.com...
>>I just re-read my last post and realized I wasn't very clear. First,
>>thanks
>> for your comments - I wantd to know what some knowledgeable people
>> thought of
>> the site.
>>
>> What I was talking about was the fact that the links to pdf's are trying
>> to
>> go to my server, and that isn't even the lastest version of them. I
>> uploaded
>> everything again, incl. some changes. Does the order of upload matter?
>> Should my forms folder be at the same level as the index? Even when I
>> publish it to my desktop, it's not looking at the latesd version of the
>> forms. Help!
>> --
>> Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>>
>>
>> "Spike" wrote:
>>
>>> The site is looking good in IE 7 on Vista OS
>>>
>>> Look at page "Our Facility" there is a picture hanging out on the left
>>>
>>> You have done well
>>>
>>> As for the PDF's
>>> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Eq Skill & Treat Prin II broch & reg.pdf
>>> S:\Website\Web Pub\Forms\Bus aspects of hippo brochure & reg.pdf
>>>
>>> Your links appear to be directed to the S drive on a computer Oops!
>>> PDF's should be placed on the internet server with your web site and
>>> linked
>>> to their directory
>>>
>>> All in All GREAT job
>>>
>>> Spike
>>>
>>>
>>> "Denise" <Denise.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
>>> > Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs
>>> > work.
>>> > 2
>>> > big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
>>> > pdf's.
>>> > I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong,
>>> > but
>>> > one
>>> > of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work
>>> > on
>>> > IE).
>>> > I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute
>>> > links
>>> > but I
>>> > don't know how
>>> > --
>>> > Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center
>>>
>>>
>

Denise,

Both Spike and I have addressed your pdf question...

As per the links. Please always give specifics. We don't have time to look
at every page and test every link, and we are likely to miss some anyway.
Also, even if you posted it before, always give us your Publisher version.
Each version works a bit different.

With that said, I see that on your home page http://shhrc.org/ the links in
the main text such as the one for: "For more information on Equine assisted
activities and therapy." do not work, and yet on
http://shhrc.org/index_files/Page1964.htm the links work. I suspect that is
because you have grouped your text boxes on the home page with some other
design elements, and you did not on the Staff page. When you grouped it, it
converted all that text into an image, which can kill the links. Try left
click drag to try to select some of the text on your home page and you will
see that you can't...tis a picture. So, assuming that is what you did, now
that you have everything arranged, ungroup the text box and test it again.

One other place where the links always fail in FF is when you use a bottom
navbar in Publisher...tis a bug. It too is converted to an image and the
links won't work in FF. Once again the solution is to ungroup that navbar
from the vertical navbar in the left column that you created using the
wizard. Select the bottom navbar > Arrange > Ungroup. Now, before you do
this, note that this will also disconnect that navbar from the wizard, so if
you decide to change your site...add another page with a new navbar button,
that link will not show up in the bottom navbar...you will have to add it
manually. So wait until you are pretty sure that you are finished with the
organization of the site and then do it. Worse case, edit manually, or you
could rebuild your navbar.

Now if you have other links that are failing in FF, post back and give us a
link to that page, and be specific.

One thing you did not ask about but you should do is to compress your
graphics before you upload them. Right now they are very slow loading.

Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web
pages (2003):
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx

Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033

Good job on the design though...how did you make the "rounded corner text"
boxes? Are you using Pub 2007?

DavidF


"Denise" <Denise.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:469FF67F-A2A4-4534-9F5B-1E78D5038D44@microsoft.com...
> Hi, again. We published our website (shhrc.org), but it still needs work.
> 2
> big things: on IE, most of the links work except for some linking to
> pdf's.
> I see that thay are trying to link to our server, which looks wrong, but
> one
> of them works. Also a lot of links on FF don't work (some that work on
> IE).
> I saw where you told someone about changing the links to absolute links
> but I
> don't know how
> --
> Denise - Somerset Hills Handicapped Riding Center