(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:46 pm
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"a a r o n _ k e m p f" wrote:
> is DAO included on Windows XP x64 edition?
> which components of JET don't work on X64 editions of Windows?
Oh, him so smart, he think. He head be where sun don shine.
(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:00 am
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"David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet.RemoveThis@dfenton.com.invalid> wrote
>> SQL Server _Express_
>> can be downloaded for free. SQL Server Express is a limited
>> edition of SQL Server, lacking many of the very real features of
>> the full product, which features Mr. Kempf often recommends.
>
> It *is* more full-featured that MySQL, so the fact
> that it is free, too, makes it more than competitive,
> in my opinion.
I only drew the distinction between the free MS SQL Server product from
which Mr. Kempf omitted the "Express" part of the name and the full MS SQL
Server product, so others would not be misled.
His other assertions here fail any test for merit, especially his claim that
"It (SQL Server Express) has a great interface- SQL Server Management Studio
Express Edition." implying that "interface" is in competition with Access.
The "Management Studio" is, as its name implies, for managing your SQL
Server and it is very good for what it is intended to do; it most definitely
does not have the ability to create database applications for users.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:12 am
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"BruceM" <bamoob.TakeThisOut@yawhodotcalm.not> wrote
> Larry knows that Access is not included withWindows.
No, of course Access is not part of the Windows distribution. I tried to be
quite clear that the _Jet database engine_ is included with Windows.
> He seems to have made a misstatement, no doubt in
> part because he had become weary of having to
> argue with a bitter and illogical troll.
No misstatement. I do not engage in debate or argument with Mr. Kempf, and
generally do not even comment on his posts unless it is necessary to keep
him from misleading some new users of Access or of the newsgroup-- and
that's what I was doing.
And, as I said, the Jet database engine has been included with Windows for
many years.
(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:49 pm
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what.. SQL Server Express doesn't have Analysis Services. and SQL
Agent.
If you need SQL Agent, run MSDE 2.0
It''s still a 100 times better database _ENGINE_ than coasting down
the information highway _WITHOUT_AN_ENGINE_.
On Jul 2, 11:39 pm, So Sorry For Poor Aaron
<SoSorryForPoorAa....TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> "a a r o n _ k e m p f" wrote:
>
> > SQL Server Express has _ALL_ the features that 90%
> > of the people need.
>
> So you sayin' The Man, he right -- it don't have all the stuff of the full
> product. Le's hear it for The Man!
>
> Pull your head out, babykins. Big Bruce, Big Bubba, and Big Barney ain't
> gonna want your empty head in their way, anyway.
>
> > Stick a fork in it, old man-- your so called
> > database has been obsolete for a decade.
>
> Go tell that to all them folks out at Microsoft. They need a smart feller
> like you to splain it, cuz they sure done waste lotta work on four new
> versions in that decade. Maybe they give you a percentage of what you save
> 'em? But maybe they run you sorry ass off again?
(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:49 pm
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name one feature that they put into MDB that they didn't put into ADP
seriously-- go ahead, stalker
On Jul 2, 11:39 pm, So Sorry For Poor Aaron
<SoSorryForPoorAa... RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> "a a r o n _ k e m p f" wrote:
>
> > SQL Server Express has _ALL_ the features that 90%
> > of the people need.
>
> So you sayin' The Man, he right -- it don't have all the stuff of the full
> product. Le's hear it for The Man!
>
> Pull your head out, babykins. Big Bruce, Big Bubba, and Big Barney ain't
> gonna want your empty head in their way, anyway.
>
> > Stick a fork in it, old man-- your so called
> > database has been obsolete for a decade.
>
> Go tell that to all them folks out at Microsoft. They need a smart feller
> like you to splain it, cuz they sure done waste lotta work on four new
> versions in that decade. Maybe they give you a percentage of what you save
> 'em? But maybe they run you sorry ass off again?
(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:51 pm
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uh lots of ODBC doesn't work on x64
lots and lots and lots of them.
I'm not sure that half of the ODBC features work on X64
On Jul 3, 3:38 pm, "David W. Fenton" <XXXuse... RemoveThis @dfenton.com.invalid>
wrote:
> a a r o n _ k e m p f <aaron_ke... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote innews:19669b0b-2904-4296-a44c-a44e49b1b172@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.co
> m:
>
> > is DAO included on Windows XP x64 edition?
>
> No, and it's not included in regular Windows, either. DAO != Jet --
> they are completely independent, and Jet is included with Windows by
> default and DAO is not.
>
> > which components of JET don't work on X64 editions of Windows?
>
> You're the one making the argument here, so *you* tell *us* what
> parts of Jet don't work.
>
> --
> David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
> usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:38 pm
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a a r o n _ k e m p f <aaron_kempf RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
news:19669b0b-2904-4296-a44c-a44e49b1b172@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.co
m:
> is DAO included on Windows XP x64 edition?
No, and it's not included in regular Windows, either. DAO != Jet --
they are completely independent, and Jet is included with Windows by
default and DAO is not.
> which components of JET don't work on X64 editions of Windows?
You're the one making the argument here, so *you* tell *us* what
parts of Jet don't work.
(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:16 am
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a a r o n _ k e m p f wrote:
> name one feature that they put into MDB that they didn't put into ADP
Ability to link to a server other than SQL Server.
--
Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
Email (as appropriate) to...
RBrandt at Hunter dot com
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