Rick Brandt wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply Bonnie. I am not 100% sure what I mean. Most
>> users will not have Access on the computers. I am guessing that an
>> MDE would then not work. Correct?
>
>The use of an MDE and the use of the runtime have nothing to do with each
>other.
>
>An MDE prevents viewing or altering code or code-based objects (forms,
>reports, modules). It does this because the human readable code has been
>compiled to a non-readable format and the readable part is stripped out of
>the file.
>
>The runtime is a "run-only" version of Access that lets users who don't have
>a retail copy of Access use Access applications. Using that does nothing to
>protect your design (unless you also use an MDE) because even if you
>distribute your file with the runtime, that does nothing to prevent a user
>with a full copy of Access from opening it. Your design would be safe from
>users who had ONLY the runtime installed.
>
(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:10 pm
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Bonnie,
I saw nothing really incorrect, but more incomplete. I was just trying to
add detailed information to help the OP.
--
Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP
"bhicks11 via AccessMonster.com" wrote:
> Thank you and Klatuu for the addition details/information. Just to be sure
> of myself - was there something I said that was incorrect?
>
> Bonnie
> http://www.dataplus-svc.com >
> Rick Brandt wrote:
> >> Thanks for the reply Bonnie. I am not 100% sure what I mean. Most
> >> users will not have Access on the computers. I am guessing that an
> >> MDE would then not work. Correct?
> >
> >The use of an MDE and the use of the runtime have nothing to do with each
> >other.
> >
> >An MDE prevents viewing or altering code or code-based objects (forms,
> >reports, modules). It does this because the human readable code has been
> >compiled to a non-readable format and the readable part is stripped out of
> >the file.
> >
> >The runtime is a "run-only" version of Access that lets users who don't have
> >a retail copy of Access use Access applications. Using that does nothing to
> >protect your design (unless you also use an MDE) because even if you
> >distribute your file with the runtime, that does nothing to prevent a user
> >with a full copy of Access from opening it. Your design would be safe from
> >users who had ONLY the runtime installed.
> >
>
> --
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> http://www.accessmonster.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/access-setupconfig/200808/1 >
>
(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:57 pm
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Okay - thank!
Klatuu wrote:
>Bonnie,
>I saw nothing really incorrect, but more incomplete. I was just trying to
>add detailed information to help the OP.
>> Thank you and Klatuu for the addition details/information. Just to be sure
>> of myself - was there something I said that was incorrect?
>[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>> >with a full copy of Access from opening it. Your design would be safe from
>> >users who had ONLY the runtime installed.
(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:42 pm
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>I also recommend you use UNC paths rather than Drive Map paths when linking
>to the back end. It is more efficient
I don't see how using UNC is more efficient than drive letters.
>and it prevents any problems when all
>users don't have the save drive letter mapped to the backed mdb location.
Using drive letters was quite handy for me the developer at one
client. I did a Command Prompt Subst to point to a local folder
name and ran my app when testing on my system. Then if I needed to
work on the live app I just removed the Subst and did a Net Use on
the drive letter. Granted though everyone had the same drive letter.
>I recommend deploying only an mde, particularly if you have any users
>with full Access installed.
It's also more difficult for an employee to steal the MDB which is the
corporations intellectual property.
Tony
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:36 pm
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"Tony Toews [MVP]" <ttoews DeleteThis @telusplanet.net> wrote in
news:rmu6b4hd7to1b3t0mevjak8jbhiddqsusi@4ax.com:
> Klatuu <Klatuu DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>I also recommend you use UNC paths rather than Drive Map paths
>>when linking to the back end. It is more efficient
>
> I don't see how using UNC is more efficient than drive letters.
Because a drive letter is resolved to the UNC path to be used.
It also removes any dependency in your app on someone correctly
configuring the PCs on which it runs (either local mapped drives or
a logon script that maps the drives for all PCs).
I have been deprecating mapped drives with my clients since 1998.
(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:10 pm
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I use mapped drives in house because I support the network and manage the
users and apps. Works well for me. If I happened to move my app to a new
server with different naming I could map the drive to it and not have to make
any programming changes (or relink the tables). If I hard code the UNC I'll
have to modify the code (and relink the tables).
David W. Fenton wrote:
>>>I also recommend you use UNC paths rather than Drive Map paths
>>>when linking to the back end. It is more efficient
>>
>> I don't see how using UNC is more efficient than drive letters.
>
>Because a drive letter is resolved to the UNC path to be used.
>
>It also removes any dependency in your app on someone correctly
>configuring the PCs on which it runs (either local mapped drives or
>a logon script that maps the drives for all PCs).
>
>I have been deprecating mapped drives with my clients since 1998.
>
(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:43 pm
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"bhicks11 via AccessMonster.com" <u44327@uwe> wrote in
news:8943a4e614b7b@uwe:
> I use mapped drives in house because I support the network and
> manage the users and apps. Works well for me. If I happened to
> move my app to a new server with different naming I could map the
> drive to it and not have to make any programming changes (or
> relink the tables). If I hard code the UNC I'll have to modify
> the code (and relink the tables).
Why do you have code that refers to drives?
In the same situation, I simply distribute a new front end pointing
to the UNC path of the back end on the new server.
Perhaps you are making your own problems by insisting on using
mapped drives (which is the way I see it, and why I completely avoid
them where I can -- that is, regardless of whether my client's
network is set up with mapped drives or not, I never use them in my
Access apps, and instead use UNC exclusively).
(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:22 am
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I see your point and agree its better in most circumstances. But I'm in a
small office and not distributing my apps so it works fine for us. I'm on
Novell and would find it easier to create one login script that everyone runs
to map drives rather than modifying the front end and redistributing it if I
changed a server.
Boy, you guys get passionate! I'm kidding - thanks David!
Bon
David W. Fenton wrote:
>> I use mapped drives in house because I support the network and
>> manage the users and apps. Works well for me. If I happened to
>> move my app to a new server with different naming I could map the
>> drive to it and not have to make any programming changes (or
>> relink the tables). If I hard code the UNC I'll have to modify
>> the code (and relink the tables).
>
>Why do you have code that refers to drives?
>
>In the same situation, I simply distribute a new front end pointing
>to the UNC path of the back end on the new server.
>
>Perhaps you are making your own problems by insisting on using
>mapped drives (which is the way I see it, and why I completely avoid
>them where I can -- that is, regardless of whether my client's
>network is set up with mapped drives or not, I never use them in my
>Access apps, and instead use UNC exclusively).
>
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