(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:12 am
Post subject: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine Add to elertz Archived from groups: microsoft>public>visio>troubleshoot (more info?)
I get this error no matter what PC I have Visio installed on, I have both
the Visio 2003 Professional version and Visio 2003 for Enterprise Architects
(on those mac hines where I have VS2005 installed).
I have it installed on 3 PCs at home and 2 at work and I get the same error
every time when I try to either open up a Database Visio Diagram or create a
new one. Is there a windows update that screws up Visio that I can
uninstall? I haven't done any product updates to Visio itself because after
reading through various groups it seems the updates cause more problems than
solve them. I am to the point of just reinstalling windows, then sp2 and
then office 2003 and not installing any other updates beyond that.
Are there any workarounds so I don't have to do this?
This problem has suddenly occured in the last two weeks and I can only
attribute to some kind of conflict with one of Any help would be
appreciated.
(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:14 am
Post subject: Re: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Sorry, meant to say "some kind of conflict with one of the recent windows
update hotfixes".
"reaverto" <reaverto.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:zZQOj.78111$Cj7.37521@pd7urf2no...
>I get this error no matter what PC I have Visio installed on, I have both
>the Visio 2003 Professional version and Visio 2003 for Enterprise
>Architects (on those mac hines where I have VS2005 installed).
>
> I have it installed on 3 PCs at home and 2 at work and I get the same
> error every time when I try to either open up a Database Visio Diagram or
> create a new one. Is there a windows update that screws up Visio that I
> can uninstall? I haven't done any product updates to Visio itself because
> after reading through various groups it seems the updates cause more
> problems than solve them. I am to the point of just reinstalling windows,
> then sp2 and then office 2003 and not installing any other updates beyond
> that.
>
> Are there any workarounds so I don't have to do this?
>
> This problem has suddenly occured in the last two weeks and I can only
> attribute to some kind of conflict with one of Any help would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:01 am
Post subject: Re: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I found the following Visio update breaks the Modeling Engine: KB947650
Made sure I had "show updates" checked off in add/remove programs and was
able to uninstall it, now everything works.
"reaverto" <reaverto.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:S%QOj.76969$rd2.35285@pd7urf3no...
> Sorry, meant to say "some kind of conflict with one of the recent windows
> update hotfixes".
> "reaverto" <reaverto.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:zZQOj.78111$Cj7.37521@pd7urf2no...
>>I get this error no matter what PC I have Visio installed on, I have both
>>the Visio 2003 Professional version and Visio 2003 for Enterprise
>>Architects (on those mac hines where I have VS2005 installed).
>>
>> I have it installed on 3 PCs at home and 2 at work and I get the same
>> error every time when I try to either open up a Database Visio Diagram or
>> create a new one. Is there a windows update that screws up Visio that I
>> can uninstall? I haven't done any product updates to Visio itself because
>> after reading through various groups it seems the updates cause more
>> problems than solve them. I am to the point of just reinstalling windows,
>> then sp2 and then office 2003 and not installing any other updates beyond
>> that.
>>
>> Are there any workarounds so I don't have to do this?
>>
>> This problem has suddenly occured in the last two weeks and I can only
>> attribute to some kind of conflict with one of Any help would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>
>
(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:13 am
Post subject: Re: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I received the error with SP3 installed.
Uninstalling the security patch fixed the problem immediately.
"Barb Way" wrote:
> By the way - our testing so far shows that the problem is occurring when
> installing the MS08-019 update on Visio 2003 SP2. If you then update to
> SP3, you should be okay. Similarly, if you have SP3 and apply the security
> update, the problem doesn't occur as well. It seems to only happen with
> Visio 2003 SP2 and the security update.
>
>
> Barb Way
> Product Support - Visio
> Microsoft Corporation
> [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.]
> --------------------
> X-Tomcat-ID: 278878760
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> From: barbway.RemoveThis@online.microsoft.com (Barb Way)
> Organization: CSS
> Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 23:53:55 GMT
> Subject: Re: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine
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>
> Thanks for the update. I'm glad you were able to pin down the problem and
> uninstall the update.
>
> We have had other reports of this problem as well, and the patching group
> is working on a replacement update.
>
>
> Barb Way
> Product Support - Visio
> Microsoft Corporation
> [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.]
> --------------------
> I found the following Visio update breaks the Modeling Engine: KB947650
>
> Made sure I had "show updates" checked off in add/remove programs and was
> able to uninstall it, now everything works.
>
> "reaverto" <reaverto.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:S%QOj.76969$rd2.35285@pd7urf3no...
> > Sorry, meant to say "some kind of conflict with one of the recent windows
> > update hotfixes".
> > "reaverto" <reaverto.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:zZQOj.78111$Cj7.37521@pd7urf2no...
> >>I get this error no matter what PC I have Visio installed on, I have both
> >>the Visio 2003 Professional version and Visio 2003 for Enterprise
> >>Architects (on those mac hines where I have VS2005 installed).
> >>
> >> I have it installed on 3 PCs at home and 2 at work and I get the same
> >> error every time when I try to either open up a Database Visio Diagram
> or
> >> create a new one. Is there a windows update that screws up Visio that I
> >> can uninstall? I haven't done any product updates to Visio itself
> because
> >> after reading through various groups it seems the updates cause more
> >> problems than solve them. I am to the point of just reinstalling
> windows,
> >> then sp2 and then office 2003 and not installing any other updates
> beyond
> >> that.
> >>
> >> Are there any workarounds so I don't have to do this?
> >>
> >> This problem has suddenly occured in the last two weeks and I can only
> >> attribute to some kind of conflict with one of Any help would be
> >> appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:56 am
Post subject: Re: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
is there any news on this, haven't seen any rerelease of MS08-19 to fix this
issue. Thanks
"Barb Way" wrote:
> Thanks for the info - I was incorrect in stating that it would not occur
> with SP3 and the MS08-019 update. For users with SP2 and the security
> update, applying SP3 seem to work okay. But when you have SP3 already and
> apply the Security update, the problem occurs.
>
>
> Barb Way
> Product Support - Visio
> Microsoft Corporation
> [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.]
> --------------------
> Thread-Topic: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine
>
> I received the error with SP3 installed.
>
> Uninstalling the security patch fixed the problem immediately.
>
> "Barb Way" wrote:
>
> > By the way - our testing so far shows that the problem is occurring when
> > installing the MS08-019 update on Visio 2003 SP2. If you then update to
> > SP3, you should be okay. Similarly, if you have SP3 and apply the
> security
> > update, the problem doesn't occur as well. It seems to only happen with
> > Visio 2003 SP2 and the security update.
> >
> >
> > Barb Way
> > Product Support - Visio
> > Microsoft Corporation
> > [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights.]
> > --------------------
> > X-Tomcat-ID: 278878760
> > References: <zZQOj.78111$Cj7.37521@pd7urf2no>
> > <S%QOj.76969$rd2.35285@pd7urf3no> <XTUOj.208216$pM4.198417@pd7urf1no>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> boundary="----=_NextPart_0001_A51B3DF0"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > From: barbway.TakeThisOut@online.microsoft.com (Barb Way)
> > Organization: CSS
> > Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 23:53:55 GMT
> > Subject: Re: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine
> > X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.visio.troubleshoot
> > Message-ID: <2boUM$KrIHA.1788@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl>
> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.visio.troubleshoot
> > Lines: 111
> > Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
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> > NNTP-Posting-Host: tk5tomimport2.phx.gbl 10.201.218.20
> >
> > Thanks for the update. I'm glad you were able to pin down the problem
> and
> > uninstall the update.
> >
> > We have had other reports of this problem as well, and the patching group
> > is working on a replacement update.
> >
> >
> > Barb Way
> > Product Support - Visio
> > Microsoft Corporation
> > [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights.]
> > --------------------
> > I found the following Visio update breaks the Modeling Engine: KB947650
> >
> > Made sure I had "show updates" checked off in add/remove programs and was
> > able to uninstall it, now everything works.
> >
> > "reaverto" <reaverto.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:S%QOj.76969$rd2.35285@pd7urf3no...
> > > Sorry, meant to say "some kind of conflict with one of the recent
> windows
> > > update hotfixes".
> > > "reaverto" <reaverto.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:zZQOj.78111$Cj7.37521@pd7urf2no...
> > >>I get this error no matter what PC I have Visio installed on, I have
> both
> > >>the Visio 2003 Professional version and Visio 2003 for Enterprise
> > >>Architects (on those mac hines where I have VS2005 installed).
> > >>
> > >> I have it installed on 3 PCs at home and 2 at work and I get the same
> > >> error every time when I try to either open up a Database Visio Diagram
> > or
> > >> create a new one. Is there a windows update that screws up Visio that
> I
> > >> can uninstall? I haven't done any product updates to Visio itself
> > because
> > >> after reading through various groups it seems the updates cause more
> > >> problems than solve them. I am to the point of just reinstalling
> > windows,
> > >> then sp2 and then office 2003 and not installing any other updates
> > beyond
> > >> that.
> > >>
> > >> Are there any workarounds so I don't have to do this?
> > >>
> > >> This problem has suddenly occured in the last two weeks and I can only
> > >> attribute to some kind of conflict with one of Any help would be
> > >> appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:05 am
Post subject: Re: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Is there an update on this issue? Thanks. Kathleen Litton
"Barb Way" wrote:
> There is no re-release date announced, but a new update is being worked on.
> I will update this post when something becomes available or a date is
> known.
>
> Barb Way
> Product Support - Visio
> Microsoft Corporation
> [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.]
>
> is there any news on this, haven't seen any rerelease of MS08-19 to fix
> this
> issue. Thanks
>
>
>
> "Barb Way" wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the info - I was incorrect in stating that it would not occur
> > with SP3 and the MS08-019 update. For users with SP2 and the security
> > update, applying SP3 seem to work okay. But when you have SP3 already
> and
> > apply the Security update, the problem occurs.
> >
> >
> > Barb Way
> > Product Support - Visio
> > Microsoft Corporation
> > [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights.]
> > --------------------
> > Thread-Topic: Error - Failed to initialize the modeling engine
> >
> > I received the error with SP3 installed.
> >
> > Uninstalling the security patch fixed the problem immediately.
> >
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