(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:49 am
Post subject: Re: Where is the word count tool? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>word>docmanagement (more info?)
In Windows Explorer you might want to check to see what file types are associated with the .HX_ series of file types. I don't
recall if running Office diagnostics from
Office Button=>Word Options=>Resources
resets those for the CLView.exe help viewer
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<<"digitig" <digitig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:953D4B94-B050-4701-92F3-1AD780F92602@microsoft.com...
Oh, and I forgot to mention my other big Office 2007 -- I can't get help to
work. Whenever I ask for help I don't get a help page, instead a pile of XML
opens in my XML editor (oXygen).
All the stuff I can find on the web about help problems with Office 2007
relate to Vista systems with Macromedia installed, but I'm running XP Pro and
don't have Macromedia.
So when I can't find a feature I expect in Office 2007, I'm working blind. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP
*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:29 am
Post subject: Re: Where is the word count tool? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Maybe. But much of my time at work I don't have an internet connection
(customer premises in environments where I can't use a mobile telephone).
> In Windows Explorer you might want to check to see what file types are associated with the .HX_ series of file types.
Apparently nothing. They say "Opens with:" but the following text shows that
Windows knows about what the files are. I've compared with a working
intallation and they look the same.
> I don't
> recall if running Office diagnostics from
> Office Button=>Word Options=>Resources
> resets those for the CLView.exe help viewer
Apparently not. I should probably try a re-install.
(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:35 am
Post subject: Re: Where is the word count tool? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Bob Buckland ?" wrote:
> You may want to take a look at the http://toolbartoggle.com add-in. It supports a floating toolbar (actually task pane) for some
> features.
That looks promising, thanks.
> I'm not sure what warning you're getting regarding old keystrokes (I'll probably remember once I've had coffee on this Monday
> morning <g>).
"Warning" is possibly too strong, but a popup tells me that it's an Office
2003 access key.
> The 'Custom properties' would be one tab in the older Word 2003 properties dialog? That's a dialog I mentioned in the previous
> message that could be assigned a custom keyboard shortcut to be able to pop it up, although not to a specific tab in the dialog .
The one I now get at with <alt>FEP[click "Document Properties"][Click
"Advanced Properties][Click "Custom"]
> As you can access the object model from C# it would be possible to customize the right click context menus that way, but that would
> be something one of the macro maven/programming folks who post here to address for you
When I get a chance (looks like September, but may slip) I'll have a look at
that. I never liked VBA -- I always felt I was working against it rather than
with it -- but I really like C#.
(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Where is the word count tool? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Note that the people answering questions here do not work for Microsoft. And
providing details is necessary, because, as you pointed out, no one here is
a mind-reader.
--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
"Older Than You" <Older Than You.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:46368808-C17C-4EFE-975D-198173BEFF88@microsoft.com...
> Oh great, I guess we are supposed to be mind-readers and just know all
> this.
>
> "Could you provide some steps to reproduce the behavior?"
> Isn't MS supposed to be telling US where these behaviors are? Didn't
> someone test this before releasing it? Why to users have to point out
> the
> problems?
>
> But I guess if there is no regard for the amount of lost productivity
> caused
> by someone in MS not having anything better to do than completely change
> the
> UI, there certainly is no interest in telling customers how the new UI
> actually works (when it does).
>
> ===
>
> "Bob Buckland ?" wrote:
>
>> Hi Digitig,
>>
>> Could you provide some steps to reproduce the behavior?
>>
>> Is this typed text, or text pasted from a non-Word document pasted in?
>>
>> What font are you using and what view are you working in.
>>
>> Generally, the type of behavior you mentioned can occur if the font is a
>> symbol font (even if the 'symbols' look 'letterlike') as
>> Word then doesn't see 'words' just characters, but clicking on the
>> Wordcount item on the Word 2007 status bar at the bottom of the
>> screen should bring up the count dialog and a character count that does
>> 'see' these characters but the Word count may not appear
>> correctly.
>>
>> ============
>> <<"digitig" <digitig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ADC8A494-01E4-43FA-8E7C-1E356D52E1F6@microsoft.com...
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>>
>> > Live word count is on the status bar.
>>
>> But only sometimes updates. Specifically, if you select part of a text
>> the
>> live word count /should/ show the number of words in the selected portion
>> before the number of words in the whole text. Sometimes it does, and
>> that's
>> great. Sometimes it doesn't, which sucks. In my latest college assignment
>> there are blocks of plain text for which, if I select them, the live word
>> count will show the word count for the selection. There there are other
>> blocks of plain text for which, if I select them, the live word count
>> will
>> continue to display only the total for the document and I have to go to
>> the
>> word count button on the review tab to get the count.
>>
>> So I'm afraid I'm at least partly with "Joe in Durango, CO". Word count
>> in
>> the status bar would be a great feature if it worked consistently. It
>> doesn't, so it's a real nuisance that the version that /does/ work is so
>> hard
>> to find. <<
>> --
>>
>> Bob Buckland ? >> MS Office System Products MVP
>>
>> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>>
>>
>>
(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Where is the word count tool? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
> Old ones that don't always work were often on the old File menu (now
> Office button menu), where properties moved to
> Office Button=>Prepare=>Properties so (Alt, F, E, P) works to get you
> to the 'basic' properties, but the old (Alt, F, I) will
> now take you to the 'Office Center' (Word 2007 Options) dialog
"Bob Buckland ?" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> wrote
in message news:%23EEVuMq2IHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Digitig,
>
> On the keyboard shortcuts you mentioned, you may find that many of the old
> version ones still work <g> as do the new ones.
>
> For example Alt, E, F will still bring up Edit=>Find (as will Ctrl+F).
> If you press Alt, then E, you should see a tooltip that
> Word 2007 recognized that you are using an Office 2003 shortcut key
> sequence >
> Old ones that don't always work were often on the old File menu (now
> Office button menu), where properties moved to
> Office Button=>Prepare=>Properties so (Alt, F, E, P) works to get you
> to the 'basic' properties, but the old (Alt, F, I) will
> now take you to the 'Office Center' (Word 2007 Options) dialog >
> You can, however, add your own keyboard shortcuts as well, at least in
> Word <g>. For example to add a keyboard shortcut for the
> Word 2003 like properties dialog you can use
> Office Button=>Word Options=>Customize=>Keyboard Shortcuts
> (Alt, F, I, C)
> and from the 'All commands' category, select the FileProperties choice.
>
> You can right click on the Crop tool icon to add-it to the Quick access
> toolbar, although it does appear in the
> Picture Tools=>Format ribbon with a double click of the picture after
> inserting a caption. If you're handy with VBA (which
> I'm not <g>, it can probably also be added to the right click menu for
> pictures as well.
>
> There are a number of different spreadsheets, by example tools and add-ins
> available that you may find helpful.
> > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/HA102295841033.aspx > http://officelabs.com/projects/searchcommands/Pages/default.aspx >
>
> Some folks prefer to work with a minimzed ribbon (ctrl+F1 or double click
> on a ribbon tab)
>
> ===============
> <<"digitig" <digitig DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5EFD53B1-9EFC-498F-B0F2-E4AC35243325@microsoft.com...
> "Older Than You" wrote:
>
>> Oh great, I guess we are supposed to be mind-readers and just know all
>> this.
>>
>> "Could you provide some steps to reproduce the behavior?"
>
> To be fair, I'm quite glad that Microsoft can't see everything I'm typing
> in
> my word processor. I do like /some/ degree of privacy!
>
>> Isn't MS supposed to be telling US where these behaviors are? Didn't
>> someone test this before releasing it? Why to users have to point out
>> the
>> problems?
>>
>> But I guess if there is no regard for the amount of lost productivity
>> caused
>> by someone in MS not having anything better to do than completely change
>> the
>> UI, there certainly is no interest in telling customers how the new UI
>> actually works (when it does).
>
> Well, I loathe the new UI with a vengeance, especially the way common hot
> key sequences are really long (<alt>EF replaced with <alt>HFDF, and try
> getting to custom document properties just using the keyboard!) whilst
> rare
> actions have really short sequences (<alt>PH for hyphenation settings and
> <alt>PJ to set the columns -- both things that I do once and for all in
> the
> document template), and the way I keep having to switch between ribbon
> tabs
> when on previous version I could have left all the relevant toolbars open
> for
> the task I was performing (when I'm putting a series of figures drawn in a
> different tool into a document, I hate the way the crop icon goes away
> when I
> add a caption -- I reckon it pretty much doubles the distance the mouse
> has
> to travel to do the job).
>
> But for all that, when I had trouble with word count I came here and found
> that the function I was used to was still available and still worked as it
> should, so credit to Microsoft for leaving it in. And when I come here
> with
> what is effectively a bug report, what on earth do you expect /any/
> responsible company to do other than ask for the steps to repeat the
> behaviour? >>
> --
>
> Bob Buckland ? > MS Office System Products MVP
>
> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>
>
(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:36 am
Post subject: Re: Where is the word count tool? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hi Tony,
Interesting. Word doesn't see these as keyboard shortcut custom assignments either (i.e. it doesn't list them from Office
Button=>Print=>Print
and selecting 'Key Assignments') and saves an 'attachedToolbars.bin' customization.xml part to Normal.dotm, even though the macro
was only in a specific document (and now the Office Button has a different keyboard shortcut in Word than its sister apps )
(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:16 pm
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Hi Bob,
> Word doesn't see these as keyboard shortcut custom assignments either
> (i.e. it doesn't list them from Office
> Button=>Print=>Print
> and selecting 'Key Assignments')
Accelerators were never considered shortcuts in that sense, so that's
consistent with 2003.
> and saves an 'attachedToolbars.bin' customization.xml part to Normal.dotm,
> even though the macro
> was only in a specific document
Without setting a CustomizationContext that is, again, consistent with
earlier versions.
> and now the Office Button has a different keyboard shortcut in Word than
> its sister apps
There's only one app worth using <g>. More seriously, you can either (a)
change other apps in the same way, or (b) customize "File" with a different
legacy accelerator (although you would have to remember to use it).
(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:53 pm
Post subject: RE: Where is the word count tool? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I agree with these comments. Why isn't there a simple way to translate word
2003 functions to word 2007?? Some one really missed a very basic step in the
design process.
Rich
"Joe" wrote:
> This version is the worst!!! It took me way too long to find this simple
> function:
> Click on "Review" tab. In left box (spelling and grammar) next to
> "Translate"
> is a little box - 123. That's the word count button.
>
> MS software is such a scam. Why do they make it so difficult? Because they
> can.
>
> cheers
>
> Joe in Durango, CO
>
>
> "abbyvfb" wrote:
>
> > Can someone please help! Where is the word count function in Word 2007?
> > There's no tool menu like there used to be. I need this desperately!! Thanks!
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