(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:10 pm
Post subject: Re: How to remove automatically some pages? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>word>newusers (more info?)
Thank you very much for your propositions. That's very kind of you.
I just wanted to send my example to you but I can't find your e-mail
address on your web site www.gmayor.com.
I made some progress. I realised that I made a mistake. I put the names
of the pages which were prepared to sort manually i.e. with conditions
to skip a page when it isn't necessary. That's why I got the warning
about using SKIPIF etc.
After putting correct names I got some results but not quite good yet.
1) I typed the below
{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
"c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\"
"{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname}
<> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}etc
but only page1 was processed
I got the same result when I only typed:
{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}}
2) all records in Excel file are processed regardless of value in Excel record
(It behaves as if there wasn't the condition <> "\")
Please tell me where is your e-mail address on your web site. I'd like to send
you my example and give you my e-mail address and ask you for sending me
your sample working document
Best regards
Tico
Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.RemoveThis@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w wiadomości news:eQxEMMcAJHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> This is complicated enough to explain in English >
> Given that the language problem might then be reversed, I wonder if it would help if you sent me the merge documents so that I can
> see what you are doing? Zip up the five(?) documents and mail them to the link on my web site. I *may* be able to spot the
> problem.
>
> If you are unable to do that - e-mail me a contact address and I'll send you a sample working document and you can see how it is
> supposed to work.
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
>
> Tico wrote:
>> Thanks a lot once more.
>>
>>> We seem to be talking at cross purposes
>> I am very sorry that my English is so poor. Another problem is that I
>> cannot use English versions of Windows and MS Office so when I want to
>> describe anything I have to translate it into English.
>>
>>> From what you have posted earlier, your merge document has five
>>> pages (not thousands), some of which will not be required according
>>> to the dictates of the data.
>> Right.
>> I'll have thousands of pages as a result of Mailmerge because the
>> Excel file contains thousends (or at least hundreds) of records.
>>
>>> You have said that you have a field in the data source which
>>> indicates which page will not be required for a given record.
>> Right.
>>
>>> Save each of the five pages as a separate document and note the
>>> filename and path.
>> Done.
>> Each page contains a table. Besides, fieldnames are rather long so
>> each "source" takes more than 1 page in fact. If it is necessary I could shorten the
>> names of the fields (=names of Excel columns)
>>
>>> {IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
>>> "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\"
>>> "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield
>>> Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc"
>>> ""}etc
>>
>> I opened a new Word97 file and then use:
>> Tools > MailMerge
>> 1. Create > Form Letters > Active Window
>> 2. Get Data > Open Data Source
>> I opened my Excel file.
>> Then I clicked on the Edit Main Document button.
>>
>> I typed what you wrote using CTRL+F9 (I forgot about it when I tried
>> before). To get Mergefileld Indicatorfieldname I selected it from the Insert
>> Merge Field (left up corner)
>> The paths use double slashes and the names of the files are correct.
>>
>> Afterwards I use:
>> Tools > MailMerge
>> 3. Merge button
>> The following options were selected:
>> Merge to a New Document
>> Records to be saved All
>> Without printing empty records
>> Then I clicked on Merge
>>
>> I got the following warning:
>> Microsoft Word
>> You cannot insert the fields DATA, NEXT, NEXTIF or SKIPIF
>> inside other fields (this is my translation)
>>
>> and after clicking on OK I got the following information:
>> MailMerge
>> An error was encountered when counting a value of field in record 1
>> (this is also my tranaslation)
>>
>> After clicking OK I got just 1 empty page (without inserted values) -
>> the first from 5 pages.
>>> Unless the first page of your merge document runs top more than one
>>> page, there will only be one page in the merge document - unless the
>>> conditions require that the includetext fields include them.
>> I am very sorry but I don't understand it. I suppose it is about what
>> I got but I have language problems with understanding it. Could you please
>> write it more simple, without using the word "unless" which is very difficult
>> to me when I have to understand anything precisely. Sorry.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Tico
>>
>>
>>
>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.RemoveThis@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>> wiadomości news:OlEkLMDAJHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> We seem to be talking at cross purposes. From what you have posted
>>> earlier, your merge document has five pages (not thousands), some of
>>> which will not be required according to the dictates of the data.
>>> You have said that you have a field in the data source which
>>> indicates which page will not be required for a given record. Save each of the five pages as a separate document and note the
>>> filename and path. Then your merge document will contain the
>>> conditional fields on the same line eg {IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
>>> "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\"
>>> "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield
>>> Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc"
>>> ""}etc These are fields not simply typed in at the keyboard. Use CTRL+F9
>>> for the brackets, and note that the paths must use double slashes
>>> and of course they and the fieldnames must match the actual
>>> filenames and fieldnames. Unless the first page of your merge document runs top more than one
>>> page, there will only be one page in the merge document - unless the
>>> conditions require that the includetext fields include them. When you then merge your database, you will have only the required
>>> number of pages for each record. The merge fields in the inserted
>>> documents will work as if they were typed on the page. --
>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>
>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tico wrote:
>>>> I read once again your below news and I think that I didn't
>>>> understand well your advice: "save each page as a separate document"
>>>> when I tried to use it before.
>>>> If I have to save each page as a separate document, I'll have to
>>>> create thousands of files and for each file to include an
>>>> information about Excel record (number?) in its name. I'm afraid
>>>> this method would be more complicated and take more time than
>>>> sorting manually. Regards
>>>> Tico
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.RemoveThis@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>>> wiadomości news:OPqaoN7$IHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You claim your merge requires a number of pages according to the
>>>>> data. Instead of merging all the pages and deleting the unwanted
>>>>> ones, include only the ones you need according to the requirements
>>>>> of the data ie save each page as a separate document and use
>>>>> includetext to insert only the pages you want. --
>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>
>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>> I am not sure if I understand you well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mean to process for each kind of page separately
>>>>>> (as I described in the method with sorting manually) and
>>>>>> then to process the MailMerge again just to combine the
>>>>>> pages into one file in a proper order?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.RemoveThis@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>>>>> wiadomości news:OlkhW26$IHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> From your description you should conditionally insert the pages
>>>>>>> eg {IF {Mergefield Char} <> "\" "{IncludeText
>>>>>>> c:\\path\\page1.doc"}" ""} It is always easier not to add in the
>>>>>>> pages that you don't need than to remove them later --
>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sorry, I should have written 5 instead of 3 in my last news.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have 5 kinds of pages however from each record only from
>>>>>>>> 1 to 3 pages can be necessary. In "my" method I "produce"
>>>>>>>> all 5 pages for each Excel record and then I delete unnecessary
>>>>>>>> pages using tha macro from you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorting the pages manually I had to repeat the process 5 times
>>>>>>>> however in this case I was able to produce only necessary
>>>>>>>> pages using SKIPIF, of course. But sorting it manually is
>>>>>>>> really a nuisance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought about using the "NEXT RECORD IF ..." but in this case
>>>>>>>> I'd have to be able to skip pages in Word. >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably the best way would be to write a "regular" program
>>>>>>>> in Visual Basic or so, but unfortuantely I am not able to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Tico" <to_jest_atrapa.RemoveThis@to_jest_atrapa.pl> napisał w
>>>>>>>> wiadomości news:g86i0i$e0l$1@nemesis.news.neostrada.pl...
>>>>>>>>> No because SKIPIF cause to skip a whole record.
>>>>>>>>> But I have to "produce" from 1 to 3 possible pages in Word
>>>>>>>>> from each record depending on the data in Excel file. That's
>>>>>>>>> why I have to "produce" all pages first and then to delete
>>>>>>>>> those which are not necessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tried to do it another way - I processed the Excel file 3
>>>>>>>>> times and then I sorted the pages manually but in case of big
>>>>>>>>> files it is really a nuisance. The order of pages is important.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll try to solve the problem continuing what I wrote in my
>>>>>>>>> prevoius news. I'll try not to center the first line however I
>>>>>>>>> don't understand why it worked when I processed it 3 times
>>>>>>>>> separately without the extra character. I don't know what
>>>>>>>>> causes the difference. Regards
>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.RemoveThis@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>>>>>>>> wiadomości news:eutQwq5$IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> I am totally bemused now. If you don't want the page(s) with
>>>>>>>>>> this particular merge record, why are you merging the record
>>>>>>>>>> in the first place? Wouldn't e.g. {SKIPIF {Mergefield Char} =
>>>>>>>>>> "\"} work? --
>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The same happens when I put in the Excel file "" instead of
>>>>>>>>>>> " " when I want a page not to be deleted.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is somehow connected with the sign of new page
>>>>>>>>>>> because sometimes it is OK but always after another sign
>>>>>>>>>>> of new page. However i don't know how to force a correct
>>>>>>>>>>> sign in the MaiMerge.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Tico" <to_jest_atrapa.RemoveThis@to_jest_atrapa.pl> napisał
>>>>>>>>>>> w wiadomości news:g86dqn$bhv$1@atlantis.news.neostrada.pl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that everything was OK but I have one problem:
>>>>>>>>>>>> the additional character damages to keeping a part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> first line in the center.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I put in Excel file an addition column and the character "\"
>>>>>>>>>>>> is put in it, if the page in Word should be deleted or the
>>>>>>>>>>>> character " ", if the page in Word should'n be deleted. What
>>>>>>>>>>>> is put : "\" or " " depends on other values in Excel file.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is OK but the first line on pages with " " is
>>>>>>>>>>>> moved much more to the left than the 1 character (" ") should use
>>>>>>>>>>>> (the same happens to pages with "\" but it is not important
>>>>>>>>>>>> as they are deleted afterwards). The first line on each
>>>>>>>>>>>> page consists of the constant text and a number that is put during the
>>>>>>>>>>>> MailMerge process, like this ABCDEF GHIJ KLMNOP
>>>>>>>>>>>> {MERGEFIELD No} The text should be in the center of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> page, and the No on the right side. After I added the character it looks like this: {MERGEFIELD Char}ABCDEF GHIJ
>>>>>>>>>>>> KLMNOP {MERGEFIELD No} (Before I put the additional
>>>>>>>>>>>> character everything was OK and the constant text was in the center)
>>>>>>>>>>>> My MailMerge "source" file consist of 5 pages, not just
>>>>>>>>>>>> one. After the process of MailMerging I delete the "extra" pages using the macro from
>>>>>>>>>>>> you. Each of the "source" 5 pages has similar first line as
>>>>>>>>>>>> I described above. Could you help me once more, please? Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.RemoveThis@REMOVETHISmvps.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał w wiadomości news:u2lg6F4$IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Page is a vague concept in Word which is not a page layout
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application and if you remove pages the document reflows to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> create a new 'page' structure. --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you both very, very much once again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used the macro to the big MailMerge output file and it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works perfectly. The macro would work faster if it could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test just the first character on each page but I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to change it. But it works very well and I am very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grateful. As for a tutorial I expected something I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I learnt other languages which began with "Hello
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> World" or something like this. Then, step by step, it showed how to use more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and more complicated language tools. Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.RemoveThis@REMOVETHISmvps.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał w wiadomości
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e$EWEks$IHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are splitting the results of a mail merge, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gmayor.com/individual_merge_letters.htm As
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug says, the only way to learn vba is to put it to use to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perform simple tasks and then get more adventurous. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can always use the macro recorder to give you some ideas. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is by no means perfect but it does help get you started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will find lots of coding examples in the vba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programming forums and on various web site, including my own. The vba help in Word
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007 is rather better than in earlier versions. --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very, very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created a sample file and it works!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have to put the macro into my big file which is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of MailMerge and make a lot of tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, I know almost nothing about VBA for Word.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at your page and I found a lot of interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things there. However what I need most at the moment is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any tutorial how to create simple macros in Word from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the very beginning. Not just examples, which are important
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too, but first of all the most basic rules. I read that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of ways is to record macros using Word and then to analyse it in VBA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor. I think that this can be useful later, when you know a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot, but not at the beginning. I am looking for any lessons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step by step showing what is neccessary in a macro and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it means. Then more and more functions to write working macros.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having such background I'll be able to learn using other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> methods. I tried to find anything like this in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet to download or use on line, but without any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success. I found a lot for Excel but I read that the rules are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same. Could you please advice me anything suitable for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person who is just starting with writing macros for Word?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.RemoveThis@REMOVETHISmvps.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał w wiadomości
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u8kOP3c$IHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The lines indicated in red have wrapped prematurely use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the following which should not wrap Sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DeleteMarkedPages() Selection.HomeKey wdStory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Selection.Find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do While .Execute(findText:="\", _
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MatchWildcards:=False, _
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrap:=wdFindContinue, _
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forward:=True) = True
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Bookmarks("\page").Range.Delete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> End With
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The macro will remove any page with the \ character in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word 2007 and should work in Word 97 also, though I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have it available to check. Word 2007 will open a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word document from Word 97 without the need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'convert' it. -- <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your prompt reply.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know enough about macros to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to use the macro. When I tried to use it I got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the following lines in red: Do While
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .Execute(FindText:="#*#", MatchWildcards:=False,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrap:=wdFindContinue, Forward:=True) = True
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Bookmarks("\page").Range.Delete regardless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I replaced the "#*#" with. My special character
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is \. I don't even know what I should writei n the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macro: "#\#", "\" or simply \ I haven't found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FindText in the "VBA for Dummies" for Office 97 that I have so I think I should save my file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as Word 2007 first and then use the macro. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office 2007 (home edition) but I am not familiar with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it yet, at least not to use macros. I am afraid I'll have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove the pages manually. Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dkr.RemoveThis@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> napisał w wiadomości
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23WewqPM$IHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use a macro containing the following code where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replace the #*# with the special character that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intend to use. Selection.HomeKey wdStory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Find.ClearFormatting With Selection.Find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do While .Execute(FindText:="#*#",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MatchWildcards:=False, Wrap:=wdFindContinue,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forward:=True) = True
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Bookmarks("\page").Range.Delete Loop End
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tico" <to_jest_atrapa.RemoveThis@to_jest_atrapa.pl> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:g7sefg$gei$1@atlantis.news.neostrada.pl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a big MS Word 97 file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am looking for any method that let me remove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically some pages which I can mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using, for example, a special character as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first on each page or in any other way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be also satisfied if I could automatically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skip the pages whilst printing the file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can use the MS Word 2007 to do it, if necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could anyone help me please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The matter is urgent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>
>
(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:18 pm
Post subject: Re: How to remove automatically some pages? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I sent my exaple to you using your address at mvps.org.
Best regards
Tico
Użytkownik "Tico" <to_jest_atrapa.TakeThisOut@to_jest_atrapa.pl> napisał w wiadomości news:g8ekm7$8rm$1@nemesis.news.neostrada.pl...
> Thank you very much for your propositions. That's very kind of you.
>
> I just wanted to send my example to you but I can't find your e-mail
> address on your web site www.gmayor.com. >
> I made some progress. I realised that I made a mistake. I put the names
> of the pages which were prepared to sort manually i.e. with conditions
> to skip a page when it isn't necessary. That's why I got the warning
> about using SKIPIF etc.
> After putting correct names I got some results but not quite good yet.
>
> 1) I typed the below
> {IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
> "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\"
> "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname}
> <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}etc
> but only page1 was processed
> I got the same result when I only typed:
> {IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}}
>
> 2) all records in Excel file are processed regardless of value in Excel record
> (It behaves as if there wasn't the condition <> "\")
>
> Please tell me where is your e-mail address on your web site. I'd like to send
> you my example and give you my e-mail address and ask you for sending me
> your sample working document
>
> Best regards
> Tico
>
>
>
>
> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w wiadomości news:eQxEMMcAJHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> This is complicated enough to explain in English >>
>> Given that the language problem might then be reversed, I wonder if it would help if you sent me the merge documents so that I
>> can see what you are doing? Zip up the five(?) documents and mail them to the link on my web site. I *may* be able to spot the
>> problem.
>>
>> If you are unable to do that - e-mail me a contact address and I'll send you a sample working document and you can see how it is
>> supposed to work.
>>
>> --
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>
>> My web site www.gmayor.com >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>
>>
>> Tico wrote:
>>> Thanks a lot once more.
>>>
>>>> We seem to be talking at cross purposes
>>> I am very sorry that my English is so poor. Another problem is that I
>>> cannot use English versions of Windows and MS Office so when I want to
>>> describe anything I have to translate it into English.
>>>
>>>> From what you have posted earlier, your merge document has five
>>>> pages (not thousands), some of which will not be required according
>>>> to the dictates of the data.
>>> Right.
>>> I'll have thousands of pages as a result of Mailmerge because the
>>> Excel file contains thousends (or at least hundreds) of records.
>>>
>>>> You have said that you have a field in the data source which
>>>> indicates which page will not be required for a given record.
>>> Right.
>>>
>>>> Save each of the five pages as a separate document and note the
>>>> filename and path.
>>> Done.
>>> Each page contains a table. Besides, fieldnames are rather long so
>>> each "source" takes more than 1 page in fact. If it is necessary I could shorten the
>>> names of the fields (=names of Excel columns)
>>>
>>>> {IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
>>>> "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\"
>>>> "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield
>>>> Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc"
>>>> ""}etc
>>>
>>> I opened a new Word97 file and then use:
>>> Tools > MailMerge
>>> 1. Create > Form Letters > Active Window
>>> 2. Get Data > Open Data Source
>>> I opened my Excel file.
>>> Then I clicked on the Edit Main Document button.
>>>
>>> I typed what you wrote using CTRL+F9 (I forgot about it when I tried
>>> before). To get Mergefileld Indicatorfieldname I selected it from the Insert
>>> Merge Field (left up corner)
>>> The paths use double slashes and the names of the files are correct.
>>>
>>> Afterwards I use:
>>> Tools > MailMerge
>>> 3. Merge button
>>> The following options were selected:
>>> Merge to a New Document
>>> Records to be saved All
>>> Without printing empty records
>>> Then I clicked on Merge
>>>
>>> I got the following warning:
>>> Microsoft Word
>>> You cannot insert the fields DATA, NEXT, NEXTIF or SKIPIF
>>> inside other fields (this is my translation)
>>>
>>> and after clicking on OK I got the following information:
>>> MailMerge
>>> An error was encountered when counting a value of field in record 1
>>> (this is also my tranaslation)
>>>
>>> After clicking OK I got just 1 empty page (without inserted values) -
>>> the first from 5 pages.
>>>> Unless the first page of your merge document runs top more than one
>>>> page, there will only be one page in the merge document - unless the
>>>> conditions require that the includetext fields include them.
>>> I am very sorry but I don't understand it. I suppose it is about what
>>> I got but I have language problems with understanding it. Could you please
>>> write it more simple, without using the word "unless" which is very difficult
>>> to me when I have to understand anything precisely. Sorry.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Tico
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>> wiadomości news:OlEkLMDAJHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> We seem to be talking at cross purposes. From what you have posted
>>>> earlier, your merge document has five pages (not thousands), some of
>>>> which will not be required according to the dictates of the data.
>>>> You have said that you have a field in the data source which
>>>> indicates which page will not be required for a given record. Save each of the five pages as a separate document and note the
>>>> filename and path. Then your merge document will contain the
>>>> conditional fields on the same line eg {IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
>>>> "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\"
>>>> "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield
>>>> Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc"
>>>> ""}etc These are fields not simply typed in at the keyboard. Use CTRL+F9
>>>> for the brackets, and note that the paths must use double slashes
>>>> and of course they and the fieldnames must match the actual
>>>> filenames and fieldnames. Unless the first page of your merge document runs top more than one
>>>> page, there will only be one page in the merge document - unless the
>>>> conditions require that the includetext fields include them. When you then merge your database, you will have only the required
>>>> number of pages for each record. The merge fields in the inserted
>>>> documents will work as if they were typed on the page. --
>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>
>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>> I read once again your below news and I think that I didn't
>>>>> understand well your advice: "save each page as a separate document"
>>>>> when I tried to use it before.
>>>>> If I have to save each page as a separate document, I'll have to
>>>>> create thousands of files and for each file to include an
>>>>> information about Excel record (number?) in its name. I'm afraid
>>>>> this method would be more complicated and take more time than
>>>>> sorting manually. Regards
>>>>> Tico
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>>>> wiadomości news:OPqaoN7$IHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> You claim your merge requires a number of pages according to the
>>>>>> data. Instead of merging all the pages and deleting the unwanted
>>>>>> ones, include only the ones you need according to the requirements
>>>>>> of the data ie save each page as a separate document and use
>>>>>> includetext to insert only the pages you want. --
>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>> I am not sure if I understand you well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean to process for each kind of page separately
>>>>>>> (as I described in the method with sorting manually) and
>>>>>>> then to process the MailMerge again just to combine the
>>>>>>> pages into one file in a proper order?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>>>>>> wiadomości news:OlkhW26$IHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> From your description you should conditionally insert the pages
>>>>>>>> eg {IF {Mergefield Char} <> "\" "{IncludeText
>>>>>>>> c:\\path\\page1.doc"}" ""} It is always easier not to add in the
>>>>>>>> pages that you don't need than to remove them later --
>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I should have written 5 instead of 3 in my last news.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have 5 kinds of pages however from each record only from
>>>>>>>>> 1 to 3 pages can be necessary. In "my" method I "produce"
>>>>>>>>> all 5 pages for each Excel record and then I delete unnecessary
>>>>>>>>> pages using tha macro from you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorting the pages manually I had to repeat the process 5 times
>>>>>>>>> however in this case I was able to produce only necessary
>>>>>>>>> pages using SKIPIF, of course. But sorting it manually is
>>>>>>>>> really a nuisance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought about using the "NEXT RECORD IF ..." but in this case
>>>>>>>>> I'd have to be able to skip pages in Word. >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Probably the best way would be to write a "regular" program
>>>>>>>>> in Visual Basic or so, but unfortuantely I am not able to.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Tico" <to_jest_atrapa.TakeThisOut@to_jest_atrapa.pl> napisał w
>>>>>>>>> wiadomości news:g86i0i$e0l$1@nemesis.news.neostrada.pl...
>>>>>>>>>> No because SKIPIF cause to skip a whole record.
>>>>>>>>>> But I have to "produce" from 1 to 3 possible pages in Word
>>>>>>>>>> from each record depending on the data in Excel file. That's
>>>>>>>>>> why I have to "produce" all pages first and then to delete
>>>>>>>>>> those which are not necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tried to do it another way - I processed the Excel file 3
>>>>>>>>>> times and then I sorted the pages manually but in case of big
>>>>>>>>>> files it is really a nuisance. The order of pages is important.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to solve the problem continuing what I wrote in my
>>>>>>>>>> prevoius news. I'll try not to center the first line however I
>>>>>>>>>> don't understand why it worked when I processed it 3 times
>>>>>>>>>> separately without the extra character. I don't know what
>>>>>>>>>> causes the difference. Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>>>>>>>>> wiadomości news:eutQwq5$IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> I am totally bemused now. If you don't want the page(s) with
>>>>>>>>>>> this particular merge record, why are you merging the record
>>>>>>>>>>> in the first place? Wouldn't e.g. {SKIPIF {Mergefield Char} =
>>>>>>>>>>> "\"} work? --
>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The same happens when I put in the Excel file "" instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>> " " when I want a page not to be deleted.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is somehow connected with the sign of new page
>>>>>>>>>>>> because sometimes it is OK but always after another sign
>>>>>>>>>>>> of new page. However i don't know how to force a correct
>>>>>>>>>>>> sign in the MaiMerge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Tico" <to_jest_atrapa.TakeThisOut@to_jest_atrapa.pl> napisał
>>>>>>>>>>>> w wiadomości news:g86dqn$bhv$1@atlantis.news.neostrada.pl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that everything was OK but I have one problem:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the additional character damages to keeping a part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> first line in the center.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I put in Excel file an addition column and the character "\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is put in it, if the page in Word should be deleted or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> character " ", if the page in Word should'n be deleted. What
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is put : "\" or " " depends on other values in Excel file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is OK but the first line on pages with " " is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved much more to the left than the 1 character (" ") should use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the same happens to pages with "\" but it is not important
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as they are deleted afterwards). The first line on each
>>>>>>>>>>>>> page consists of the constant text and a number that is put during the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MailMerge process, like this ABCDEF GHIJ KLMNOP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> {MERGEFIELD No} The text should be in the center of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> page, and the No on the right side. After I added the character it looks like this: {MERGEFIELD Char}ABCDEF GHIJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>> KLMNOP {MERGEFIELD No} (Before I put the additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>> character everything was OK and the constant text was in the center)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My MailMerge "source" file consist of 5 pages, not just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. After the process of MailMerging I delete the "extra" pages using the macro from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you. Each of the "source" 5 pages has similar first line as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I described above. Could you help me once more, please? Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał w wiadomości news:u2lg6F4$IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Page is a vague concept in Word which is not a page layout
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application and if you remove pages the document reflows to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create a new 'page' structure. --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you both very, very much once again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used the macro to the big MailMerge output file and it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works perfectly. The macro would work faster if it could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test just the first character on each page but I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to change it. But it works very well and I am very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grateful. As for a tutorial I expected something I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I learnt other languages which began with "Hello
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> World" or something like this. Then, step by step, it showed how to use more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and more complicated language tools. Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał w wiadomości
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e$EWEks$IHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are splitting the results of a mail merge, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gmayor.com/individual_merge_letters.htm As
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug says, the only way to learn vba is to put it to use to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perform simple tasks and then get more adventurous. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can always use the macro recorder to give you some ideas. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is by no means perfect but it does help get you started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will find lots of coding examples in the vba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programming forums and on various web site, including my own. The vba help in Word
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007 is rather better than in earlier versions. --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very, very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created a sample file and it works!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have to put the macro into my big file which is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of MailMerge and make a lot of tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, I know almost nothing about VBA for Word.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at your page and I found a lot of interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things there. However what I need most at the moment is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any tutorial how to create simple macros in Word from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the very beginning. Not just examples, which are important
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too, but first of all the most basic rules. I read that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of ways is to record macros using Word and then to analyse it in VBA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor. I think that this can be useful later, when you know a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot, but not at the beginning. I am looking for any lessons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step by step showing what is neccessary in a macro and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it means. Then more and more functions to write working macros.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having such background I'll be able to learn using other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> methods. I tried to find anything like this in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet to download or use on line, but without any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success. I found a lot for Excel but I read that the rules are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same. Could you please advice me anything suitable for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person who is just starting with writing macros for Word?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał w wiadomości
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u8kOP3c$IHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The lines indicated in red have wrapped prematurely use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the following which should not wrap Sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DeleteMarkedPages() Selection.HomeKey wdStory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With Selection.Find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do While .Execute(findText:="\", _
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MatchWildcards:=False, _
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrap:=wdFindContinue, _
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forward:=True) = True
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Bookmarks("\page").Range.Delete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> End With
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The macro will remove any page with the \ character in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word 2007 and should work in Word 97 also, though I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have it available to check. Word 2007 will open a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word document from Word 97 without the need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'convert' it. -- <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your prompt reply.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know enough about macros to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to use the macro. When I tried to use it I got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the following lines in red: Do While
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .Execute(FindText:="#*#", MatchWildcards:=False,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrap:=wdFindContinue, Forward:=True) = True
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Bookmarks("\page").Range.Delete regardless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I replaced the "#*#" with. My special character
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is \. I don't even know what I should writei n the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macro: "#\#", "\" or simply \ I haven't found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FindText in the "VBA for Dummies" for Office 97 that I have so I think I should save my file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as Word 2007 first and then use the macro. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office 2007 (home edition) but I am not familiar with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it yet, at least not to use macros. I am afraid I'll have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove the pages manually. Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dkr.TakeThisOut@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> napisał w wiadomości
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23WewqPM$IHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use a macro containing the following code where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replace the #*# with the special character that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intend to use. Selection.HomeKey wdStory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Find.ClearFormatting With Selection.Find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do While .Execute(FindText:="#*#",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MatchWildcards:=False, Wrap:=wdFindContinue,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forward:=True) = True
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selection.Bookmarks("\page").Range.Delete Loop End
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tico" <to_jest_atrapa.TakeThisOut@to_jest_atrapa.pl> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:g7sefg$gei$1@atlantis.news.neostrada.pl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a big MS Word 97 file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am looking for any method that let me remove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically some pages which I can mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using, for example, a special character as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first on each page or in any other way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be also satisfied if I could automatically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skip the pages whilst printing the file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can use the MS Word 2007 to do it, if necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could anyone help me please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The matter is urgent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>
>>
>
(Msg. 27) Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:54 am
Post subject: Re: How to remove automatically some pages? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
My e-mail link is on the home page of my web site. Messages sent to my MVPS
address are likely to be swallowed by the spam filter, but I rescued this
one
I have replied to your e-mail, but for the benefit of others who may be
watching the problem was a minor issue with your syntax in that you put some
of the field content in the rworng place with respect to the fields. When
this is corrected your document works.
You had
{ IF { MERGEFIELD I } <> "\" "{ Includetext "c:\\test\\Sz_I.doc" "" }{ IF
{ MERGEFIELD II_bez } <> "\" "{ Includetext "c:\\test\\Sz_II.doc" "" }{ IF
{ MERGEFIELD II_str } <> "\" "{ Includetext "c:\\test\\Sz_II_s.doc" "" }{ IF
{ MERGEFIELD III_bez } <> "\" "{ Includetext "c:\\test\\Sz_III.doc" "" }{ IF
{ MERGEFIELD III_str } <> "\" "{ Includetext "c:\\test\\Sz_III_s.doc"
""}}}}}}
Some of the field names in your data file had spaces whereas in the fields
they correctly had underscores. You would need to change the data source to
match the fields.
The mergeformat switches may not be necessary but they are probably
desirable.
--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP
Tico wrote:
> I sent my exaple to you using your address at mvps.org.
>
> Best regards
> Tico
>
>
> Użytkownik "Tico" <to_jest_atrapa.TakeThisOut@to_jest_atrapa.pl> napisał w
> wiadomości news:g8ekm7$8rm$1@nemesis.news.neostrada.pl...
>> Thank you very much for your propositions. That's very kind of you.
>>
>> I just wanted to send my example to you but I can't find your e-mail
>> address on your web site www.gmayor.com. >>
>> I made some progress. I realised that I made a mistake. I put the
>> names of the pages which were prepared to sort manually i.e. with
>> conditions to skip a page when it isn't necessary. That's why I got the
>> warning
>> about using SKIPIF etc.
>> After putting correct names I got some results but not quite good
>> yet. 1) I typed the below
>> {IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
>> "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\"
>> "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield
>> Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}etc
>> but only page1 was processed
>> I got the same result when I only typed:
>> {IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
>> "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}} 2) all records in Excel file are processed
>> regardless of value in
>> Excel record (It behaves as if there wasn't the condition <> "\")
>>
>> Please tell me where is your e-mail address on your web site. I'd
>> like to send you my example and give you my e-mail address and ask you
>> for
>> sending me your sample working document
>>
>> Best regards
>> Tico
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>> wiadomości news:eQxEMMcAJHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> This is complicated enough to explain in English >>>
>>> Given that the language problem might then be reversed, I wonder if
>>> it would help if you sent me the merge documents so that I can see
>>> what you are doing? Zip up the five(?) documents and mail them to
>>> the link on my web site. I *may* be able to spot the problem. If you are
>>> unable to do that - e-mail me a contact address and I'll
>>> send you a sample working document and you can see how it is
>>> supposed to work. --
>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>
>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tico wrote:
>>>> Thanks a lot once more.
>>>>
>>>>> We seem to be talking at cross purposes
>>>> I am very sorry that my English is so poor. Another problem is
>>>> that I cannot use English versions of Windows and MS Office so when I
>>>> want to describe anything I have to translate it into English.
>>>>
>>>>> From what you have posted earlier, your merge document has five
>>>>> pages (not thousands), some of which will not be required
>>>>> according to the dictates of the data.
>>>> Right.
>>>> I'll have thousands of pages as a result of Mailmerge because the
>>>> Excel file contains thousends (or at least hundreds) of records.
>>>>
>>>>> You have said that you have a field in the data source which
>>>>> indicates which page will not be required for a given record.
>>>> Right.
>>>>
>>>>> Save each of the five pages as a separate document and note the
>>>>> filename and path.
>>>> Done.
>>>> Each page contains a table. Besides, fieldnames are rather long so
>>>> each "source" takes more than 1 page in fact. If it is necessary I
>>>> could shorten the names of the fields (=names of Excel columns)
>>>>
>>>>> {IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
>>>>> "c:\\path\\page1.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <>
>>>>> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield
>>>>> Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc"
>>>>> ""}etc
>>>>
>>>> I opened a new Word97 file and then use:
>>>> Tools > MailMerge
>>>> 1. Create > Form Letters > Active Window
>>>> 2. Get Data > Open Data Source
>>>> I opened my Excel file.
>>>> Then I clicked on the Edit Main Document button.
>>>>
>>>> I typed what you wrote using CTRL+F9 (I forgot about it when I
>>>> tried before). To get Mergefileld Indicatorfieldname I selected it from
>>>> the Insert Merge Field (left up corner)
>>>> The paths use double slashes and the names of the files are
>>>> correct. Afterwards I use:
>>>> Tools > MailMerge
>>>> 3. Merge button
>>>> The following options were selected:
>>>> Merge to a New Document
>>>> Records to be saved All
>>>> Without printing empty records
>>>> Then I clicked on Merge
>>>>
>>>> I got the following warning:
>>>> Microsoft Word
>>>> You cannot insert the fields DATA, NEXT, NEXTIF or SKIPIF
>>>> inside other fields (this is my translation)
>>>>
>>>> and after clicking on OK I got the following information:
>>>> MailMerge
>>>> An error was encountered when counting a value of field in record 1
>>>> (this is also my tranaslation)
>>>>
>>>> After clicking OK I got just 1 empty page (without inserted
>>>> values) - the first from 5 pages.
>>>>> Unless the first page of your merge document runs top more than
>>>>> one page, there will only be one page in the merge document - unless
>>>>> the conditions require that the includetext fields include them.
>>>> I am very sorry but I don't understand it. I suppose it is about
>>>> what I got but I have language problems with understanding it. Could
>>>> you please write it more simple, without using the word "unless" which
>>>> is
>>>> very difficult to me when I have to understand anything precisely.
>>>> Sorry.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Tico
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>>> wiadomości news:OlEkLMDAJHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> We seem to be talking at cross purposes. From what you have posted
>>>>> earlier, your merge document has five pages (not thousands), some
>>>>> of which will not be required according to the dictates of the data.
>>>>> You have said that you have a field in the data source which
>>>>> indicates which page will not be required for a given record. Save
>>>>> each of the five pages as a separate document and note the
>>>>> filename and path. Then your merge document will contain the
>>>>> conditional fields on the same line eg {IF {Mergefield
>>>>> Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page1.doc"
>>>>> ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\" "{Includetext
>>>>> "c:\\path\\page2.doc" ""}{IF {Mergefield Indicatorfieldname} <> "\"
>>>>> "{Includetext "c:\\path\\page2.doc"
>>>>> ""}etc These are fields not simply typed in at the keyboard.
>>>>> Use CTRL+F9 for the brackets, and note that the paths must use double
>>>>> slashes
>>>>> and of course they and the fieldnames must match the actual
>>>>> filenames and fieldnames. Unless the first page of your merge
>>>>> document runs top more than one page, there will only be one page in
>>>>> the merge document - unless
>>>>> the conditions require that the includetext fields include them. When
>>>>> you then merge your database, you will have only the required
>>>>> number of pages for each record. The merge fields in the inserted
>>>>> documents will work as if they were typed on the page. --
>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>
>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>> I read once again your below news and I think that I didn't
>>>>>> understand well your advice: "save each page as a separate
>>>>>> document" when I tried to use it before.
>>>>>> If I have to save each page as a separate document, I'll have to
>>>>>> create thousands of files and for each file to include an
>>>>>> information about Excel record (number?) in its name. I'm afraid
>>>>>> this method would be more complicated and take more time than
>>>>>> sorting manually. Regards
>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>>>>> wiadomości news:OPqaoN7$IHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> You claim your merge requires a number of pages according to the
>>>>>>> data. Instead of merging all the pages and deleting the
>>>>>>> unwanted ones, include only the ones you need according to the
>>>>>>> requirements of the data ie save each page as a separate
>>>>>>> document and use includetext to insert only the pages you want.
>>>>>>> -- <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am not sure if I understand you well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you mean to process for each kind of page separately
>>>>>>>> (as I described in the method with sorting manually) and
>>>>>>>> then to process the MailMerge again just to combine the
>>>>>>>> pages into one file in a proper order?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> napisał w
>>>>>>>> wiadomości news:OlkhW26$IHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> From your description you should conditionally insert the
>>>>>>>>> pages eg {IF {Mergefield Char} <> "\" "{IncludeText
>>>>>>>>> c:\\path\\page1.doc"}" ""} It is always easier not to add in
>>>>>>>>> the pages that you don't need than to remove them later --
>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I should have written 5 instead of 3 in my last news.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have 5 kinds of pages however from each record only from
>>>>>>>>>> 1 to 3 pages can be necessary. In "my" method I "produce"
>>>>>>>>>> all 5 pages for each Excel record and then I delete
>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary pages using tha macro from you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorting the pages manually I had to repeat the process 5
>>>>>>>>>> times however in this case I was able to produce only
>>>>>>>>>> necessary pages using SKIPIF, of course. But sorting it
>>>>>>>>>> manually is really a nuisance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought about using the "NEXT RECORD IF ..." but in this
>>>>>>>>>> case I'd have to be able to skip pages in Word. >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Probably the best way would be to write a "regular" program
>>>>>>>>>> in Visual Basic or so, but unfortuantely I am not able to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Tico" <to_jest_atrapa.TakeThisOut@to_jest_atrapa.pl> napisał
>>>>>>>>>> w wiadomości news:g86i0i$e0l$1@nemesis.news.neostrada.pl...
>>>>>>>>>>> No because SKIPIF cause to skip a whole record.
>>>>>>>>>>> But I have to "produce" from 1 to 3 possible pages in Word
>>>>>>>>>>> from each record depending on the data in Excel file. That's
>>>>>>>>>>> why I have to "produce" all pages first and then to delete
>>>>>>>>>>> those which are not necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to do it another way - I processed the Excel file 3
>>>>>>>>>>> times and then I sorted the pages manually but in case of
>>>>>>>>>>> big files it is really a nuisance. The order of pages is
>>>>>>>>>>> important. I'll try to solve the problem continuing what I wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>>>>> prevoius news. I'll try not to center the first line
>>>>>>>>>>> however I don't understand why it worked when I processed
>>>>>>>>>>> it 3 times separately without the extra character. I don't
>>>>>>>>>>> know what causes the difference. Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Tico
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Użytkownik "Graham Mayor" <gmayor.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> napisał w wiadomości
>>>>>>>>>>> news:eutQwq5$IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am totally bemused now. If you don't want the page(s)
>>>>>>>>>>>> with this particular merge record, why are you merging the
>>>>>>>>>>>> record in the first place? Wouldn't e.g. {SKIPIF
>>>>>>>>>>>> {Mergefield Char} = "\"} work? --
>>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same happens when I put in the Excel file "" instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of " " when I want a page not to be deleted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is somehow connected with the sign of new page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because sometimes it is OK but always after another sign
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new page. However i don't know how to force a correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign in the MaiMerge.