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Echo S

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:15 pm
Post subject: Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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That's pretty slick, Bill. Well done.

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"Bill" <Bill.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C236E42A-CB50-422C-AFBF-5D0A83B8240A@microsoft.com...
>I GOT IT!!!
>
> Microsoft is tricky, but there are work arounds to the planned
> obsolescence.
> This isn't perfect but at least I can see my old work.
>
> Trapped in Vista with Powerpoint 2007 needing to see powerpoint 1997 (4).
> 1. Download PowerPointViewer 1997
> 2. Install it in Vista (but in a folder with 97 on the end so you can
> find
> it later)
> 3. Open it
> 4. Navigate to the file you want to get into.
> 5. Print it to a pdf (from Viewer)
>
> Then You at least have the Adobe Acrobat version that can be displayed for
> classes, printed, and viewed with user-friendly backward compatibility.
>
> Bill
>
> "Bill Dilworth" wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the great feedback Greg,
>>
>> Unfortunately, there is no one here but use chickens. Everyone here in
>> the
>> newsgroup is a user, like yourself. No one here works for Microsoft.
>>
>> In my experience, it is often worthwhile to keep a version of older
>> software
>> running on virtual machines, so that when (yes, when) support is dropped
>> for
>> an older version (by whatever company), you still have access to it.
>>
>>
>> Bill Dilworth
>>
>> "GregO" <GregO.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B17B18E4-C6B0-4FEA-87EF-E0C36BB30EAB@microsoft.com...
>> > This question "realistically how many people do you imagine are using
>> > files
>> > from Powerpoint 95 and earlier...?" displays a truly out-of-touch
>> > understanding of the use of Powerpoint by academicians. Loss of
>> > backward
>> > compatibility is a huge issue, for so many reasons that I cannot count.
>> > Powerpoint is used in academia to create figures, etc. for lectures,
>> > manuscripts, grants, etc. Backward compatibility, no matter how far
>> > back,
>> > is
>> > essential to the utility of the program. Few people have probably
>> > discovered
>> > yet that they cannot go back to files that they created 10 years ago to
>> > take
>> > another look at the figure or to modify it. As they discover this,
>> > more
>> > and
>> > more people will become disgusted. The effect on MS will only be felt
>> > if
>> > another company produces a better product. But what happened to
>> > companies
>> > that really care about the quality of their product, rather than
>> > simply,
>> > gee,
>> > I don/t see how we can make any additional money if we make the product
>> > better?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <6383BFA2-EAA0-4A86-8591-85B626E5328B.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com>,
>> >> Dwarkin
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Pia, this does not help: using this merely takes away the
>> >> > security-restrictions; we´ve tryed that. The problem is that
>> >> > Microsoft
>> >> > has
>> >> > not implemented any converter for those elder file-types in 2007.
>> >> > But
>> >> > as
>> >> > Microsoft wrote: we users may learn that our content is limited by
>> >> > decisions
>> >> > from MS. This mean, merely as long accessible as Microsoft is
>> >> > willing
>> >> > to
>> >> > allow us to do so.
>> >> > I´m very curious how long it will take until EU-Commission or
>> >> > US-authorities
>> >> > will watch this as using market-power against customers.
>> >>
>> >> I wouldn't hold my breath. It's rare that programs read files from
>> >> more
>> >> than a
>> >> few versions back; I've never heard of the government stepping in and
>> >> demanding
>> >> that they do so. If it's in the company's competitive and financial
>> >> interests
>> >> to make it happen, they'll do so. Otherwise no.
>> >>
>> >> Realistically, how many people do you imagine are still using files
>> >> from
>> >> PowerPoint 95 and earlier (from 12 or more years ago)? I doubt very
>> >> much
>> >> that
>> >> it'd be worth MS' time and money to build the converter, particularly
>> >> when
>> >> anyone with a copy of an earlier version of PPT can convert the files
>> >> to
>> >> something that 2007 can read.
>> >>
>> >> There's a macro here that'll automate it in fact:
>> >>
>> >> Batch re-save presentations; update older presentations to newer
>> >> PowerPoint
>> >> version
>> >> http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00740.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----------------------------------------
>> >> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
>> >> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
>> >> PPTools: www.pptools.com
>> >> ================================================
>> >> Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
>> >> Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
>> >> www.pptlive.com
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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Prof Patrick

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:36 am
Post subject: Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I agree ..... I have a number of Powerpoint '95 presentations and I'm at a
loss now. It would be so easy for microsoft to create a few online
converters ... Easy to find, easy to administrate, and providing customer
service without having to redistribute software ..... just put an online
upload and converter online please!!

Patrick

"GregO" wrote:

> This question "realistically how many people do you imagine are using files
> from Powerpoint 95 and earlier...?" displays a truly out-of-touch
> understanding of the use of Powerpoint by academicians. Loss of backward
> compatibility is a huge issue, for so many reasons that I cannot count.
> Powerpoint is used in academia to create figures, etc. for lectures,
> manuscripts, grants, etc. Backward compatibility, no matter how far back, is
> essential to the utility of the program. Few people have probably discovered
> yet that they cannot go back to files that they created 10 years ago to take
> another look at the figure or to modify it. As they discover this, more and
> more people will become disgusted. The effect on MS will only be felt if
> another company produces a better product. But what happened to companies
> that really care about the quality of their product, rather than simply, gee,
> I don/t see how we can make any additional money if we make the product
> better?
>
>
>
> "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>
> > In article <6383BFA2-EAA0-4A86-8591-85B626E5328B.DeleteThis@microsoft.com>, Dwarkin wrote:
> > > Pia, this does not help: using this merely takes away the
> > > security-restrictions; we´ve tryed that. The problem is that Microsoft has
> > > not implemented any converter for those elder file-types in 2007. But as
> > > Microsoft wrote: we users may learn that our content is limited by decisions
> > > from MS. This mean, merely as long accessible as Microsoft is willing to
> > > allow us to do so.
> > > I´m very curious how long it will take until EU-Commission or US-authorities
> > > will watch this as using market-power against customers.
> >
> > I wouldn't hold my breath. It's rare that programs read files from more than a
> > few versions back; I've never heard of the government stepping in and demanding
> > that they do so. If it's in the company's competitive and financial interests
> > to make it happen, they'll do so. Otherwise no.
> >
> > Realistically, how many people do you imagine are still using files from
> > PowerPoint 95 and earlier (from 12 or more years ago)? I doubt very much that
> > it'd be worth MS' time and money to build the converter, particularly when
> > anyone with a copy of an earlier version of PPT can convert the files to
> > something that 2007 can read.
> >
> > There's a macro here that'll automate it in fact:
> >
> > Batch re-save presentations; update older presentations to newer PowerPoint
> > version
> > http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00740.htm
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> > PPTools: www.pptools.com
> > ================================================
> > Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> > Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> > www.pptlive.com
> >
> >
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Steve Rindsberg

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:28 pm
Post subject: Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

If it's that easy to do and if there's sufficient need to support it, I expect someone will do
it. Would you be willing to pay them a fair price per conversion if so?

And look at it from Microsoft's point of view: if you had to choose among spending a
programmer's time on

- adding new features that'll help sell the next version of the software, OR

- fixing bugs in the current version, OR

- creating and maintaining a free service (it sounds like that's what you're asking for?) to
support a smallish number of users with fourteen-year-old files,

which would you spend the resources on? Bearing in mind that:

- MS has already published batch updaters several times in the past.

- by installing an older version, you can use the code I've provided to update your own older
files to a format that current versions can read.




In article <37B9FDEE-B4D2-4088-AB07-D1580630E4FB.RemoveThis@microsoft.com>, Prof Patrick wrote:
> I agree ..... I have a number of Powerpoint '95 presentations and I'm at a
> loss now. It would be so easy for microsoft to create a few online
> converters ... Easy to find, easy to administrate, and providing customer
> service without having to redistribute software ..... just put an online
> upload and converter online please!!
>
> Patrick
>
> "GregO" wrote:
>
> > This question "realistically how many people do you imagine are using files
> > from Powerpoint 95 and earlier...?" displays a truly out-of-touch
> > understanding of the use of Powerpoint by academicians. Loss of backward
> > compatibility is a huge issue, for so many reasons that I cannot count.
> > Powerpoint is used in academia to create figures, etc. for lectures,
> > manuscripts, grants, etc. Backward compatibility, no matter how far back, is
> > essential to the utility of the program. Few people have probably discovered
> > yet that they cannot go back to files that they created 10 years ago to take
> > another look at the figure or to modify it. As they discover this, more and
> > more people will become disgusted. The effect on MS will only be felt if
> > another company produces a better product. But what happened to companies
> > that really care about the quality of their product, rather than simply, gee,
> > I don/t see how we can make any additional money if we make the product
> > better?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
> >
> > > In article <6383BFA2-EAA0-4A86-8591-85B626E5328B.RemoveThis@microsoft.com>, Dwarkin wrote:
> > > > Pia, this does not help: using this merely takes away the
> > > > security-restrictions; we´ve tryed that. The problem is that Microsoft has
> > > > not implemented any converter for those elder file-types in 2007. But as
> > > > Microsoft wrote: we users may learn that our content is limited by decisions
> > > > from MS. This mean, merely as long accessible as Microsoft is willing to
> > > > allow us to do so.
> > > > I´m very curious how long it will take until EU-Commission or US-authorities
> > > > will watch this as using market-power against customers.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't hold my breath. It's rare that programs read files from more than a
> > > few versions back; I've never heard of the government stepping in and demanding
> > > that they do so. If it's in the company's competitive and financial interests
> > > to make it happen, they'll do so. Otherwise no.
> > >
> > > Realistically, how many people do you imagine are still using files from
> > > PowerPoint 95 and earlier (from 12 or more years ago)? I doubt very much that
> > > it'd be worth MS' time and money to build the converter, particularly when
> > > anyone with a copy of an earlier version of PPT can convert the files to
> > > something that 2007 can read.
> > >
> > > There's a macro here that'll automate it in fact:
> > >
> > > Batch re-save presentations; update older presentations to newer PowerPoint
> > > version
> > > http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00740.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> > > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> > > PPTools: www.pptools.com
> > > ================================================
> > > Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> > > Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> > > www.pptlive.com
> > >
> > >


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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:56 am
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I have had the same problem recovering old formats.
solution was just to find an old machine/sys.

Consider recovering 35 mm slides or OH transparencies. Recovering ppt-95 files relatively easy.

I also have an R-12 air conditioner.



Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
31-Aug-09

If it's that easy to do and if there's sufficient need to support it, I expect someone will do
it. Would you be willing to pay them a fair price per conversion if so?

And look at it from Microsoft's point of view: if you had to choose among spending a
programmer's time on

- adding new features that'll help sell the next version of the software, OR

- fixing bugs in the current version, OR

- creating and maintaining a free service (it sounds like that's what you're asking for?) to
support a smallish number of users with fourteen-year-old files,

which would you spend the resources on? Bearing in mind that:

- MS has already published batch updaters several times in the past.

- by installing an older version, you can use the code I've provided to update your own older
files to a format that current versions can read.




In article <37B9FDEE-B4D2-4088-AB07-D1580630E4FB.DeleteThis@microsoft.com>, Prof Patrick wrote:


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Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Friday, April 20, 2007 9:40 AM
dw wrote:

I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
I cannot open presentations created in powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007.

On Friday, April 20, 2007 9:55 AM
Patrick Schmid [MVP] wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
Correct. PPT 2007 does not open or save ppt 95 files. You'll have to
open them with PPT 97-2003 and save it in the 97-2003 file format.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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"dwk" <dwk.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DA6F970E-531C-456D-968A-308B749927D5@microsoft.com:

On Friday, April 20, 2007 3:04 PM
dw wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
bad news for me- I installed 2007 as a complete new install and wiped out my
old version of office 2000.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

On Friday, April 20, 2007 3:20 PM
Michael Koerner wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
You might have someone who still has an earlier version of PowerPoint on
their system to update it for you. Being a 95 presentation, probably to
large to email.

--
Michael Koerner
MS MVP - PowerPoint


"dwk" <dwk.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CD5A53AE-B49F-4762-8EF1-7B7C1D546E8A@microsoft.com...

On Friday, April 20, 2007 3:36 PM
dw wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
I know - it is just a pain to have to do this. I teach and I do not always
use the same slide shows every semester. I appreciate the immediate
responses!

"Michael Koerner" wrote:

On Friday, April 20, 2007 4:50 PM
Michael Koerner wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
How large is the ppt file? If it is not overly large, I'd be more than happy
to convert it from a 95 to 97-2007 your choice as long as none of the
material is sensitive.

--
Michael Koerner
MS MVP - PowerPoint


"dwk" <dwk.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C8DED45A-A0E1-4DFC-B5BE-ABE97F0EC9D7@microsoft.com...

On Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:43 AM
dwarki wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
Thank You, Micheal, for Your offer. We have about 40.000 files in older
Office-formats whereof, about 25.000 in Office 95, about 15.000 in
Powerpoint-Presentations and WORD-Handbooks. Where may I send them to have
them converted? All of our former letters, a large part of our presentations-
and handbook-archiv is in-accessible for Office 2007. I??m glad to have it
tested since I may now decide not to updgrade from 2003 to any newer
Office-version in my company. The same decides these days all of my collegues
in other companies. Some of them prefer open-source because of that, since
older office-files are accessible e.g. in open-office.
Microsoft may learn: we users MUST have access to older files without
restrictions. There are two main reasons to use computers: to work more
effectively and to be able to access former datas without restrictions. As
long as I can open PDFs from any year but not my Office-files after 5-10
years, even the XPS-Format will not be intruduced in companies, at least not
in europe ;-(((((
We all would be very greatfull if microsoft would release a
compatibility-pack for older files very urgently and would focus this problem
in this and any later office-version as a main feature for
business-customers.

"Michael Koerner" wrote:

On Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:43 AM
Michael Koerner wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
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longer work with 95 files. But you can if what you say is true that you =
have Office 2003 on your system.

To open a Microsoft Office PowerPoint 2003 presentation in Microsoft =
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1.. In Office PowerPoint 2003, on the File menu, click Save As. In the =
Save as type box, click PowerPoint 95.=20
2.. Click Save

--=20
Michael Koerner
MS MVP - PowerPoint


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> Michael Koerner
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> "dwk" <dwk.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C8DED45A-A0E1-4DFC-B5BE-ABE97F0EC9D7@microsoft.com...
> >I know - it is just a pain to have to do this. I teach and I do =
not always
> > use the same slide shows every semester. I appreciate the =
immediate
> > responses!
> >
> > "Michael Koerner" wrote:
> >
> >> You might have someone who still has an earlier version of =
PowerPoint on
> >> their system to update it for you. Being a 95 presentation, =
probably to
> >> large to email.
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> Michael Koerner
> >> MS MVP - PowerPoint
> >>
> >>
> >> "dwk" <dwk.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CD5A53AE-B49F-4762-8EF1-7B7C1D546E8A@microsoft.com...
> >> > bad news for me- I installed 2007 as a complete new install and =
wiped
> >> > out
> >> > my
> >> > old version of office 2000.
> >> >
> >> > "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Correct. PPT 2007 does not open or save ppt 95 files. You'll =
have to
> >> >> open them with PPT 97-2003 and save it in the 97-2003 file =
format.
> >> >>
> >> >> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> >> >> --------------
> >> >> http://pschmid.net
> >> >> ***
> >> >> Outlook 2007 Performance Update:
> >> >> http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/13/105
> >> >> Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
> >> >> ***
> >> >> Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
> >> >> RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
> >> >> http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
> >> >> OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
> >> >> ***
> >> >> Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
> >> >>
> >> >> "dwk" <dwk.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:DA6F970E-531C-456D-968A-308B749927D5@microsoft.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I cannot open presentations created in powerpoint 95 in =
powerpoint
> >> >> > 2007.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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On Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 PM
Karen O'Qui wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
I have this problem as well (although maybe a hundred files instead of
thousands). The problem is BACKWARD compatibility, not the usual problem of
forward compatibility. My Office 2003, running under Vista, will NOT open
any PowerPoint files created before 2002. I have the same problem on my work
machine, which is running Office 2007 under Windows XP. The problem, so far,
seems to be limited to PowerPoint--I do not have the same problem with Word
files.

I have searched in vain for a solution. PLEASE give us a fix for this
problem--it's huge.

Karen O'Quin
Professor

"Michael Koerner" wrote:

On Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:47 AM
Pia Bork wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
Karen O'Quin wrote:

Office 2003 with Service Pack 2? Can you try this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941636/en-us


--
Mit vielen Gr??en
Pia Bork

MVP PowerPoint
http://www.ppt-faq.de

On Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:06 PM
dwarki wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
Pia, this does not help: using this merely takes away the
security-restrictions; we??ve tryed that. The problem is that Microsoft has
not implemented any converter for those elder file-types in 2007. But as
Microsoft wrote: we users may learn that our content is limited by decisions
from MS. This mean, merely as long accessible as Microsoft is willing to
allow us to do so.
I??m very curious how long it will take until EU-Commission or US-authorities
will watch this as using market-power against customers.

"Pia Bork" wrote:

On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:16 AM
Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
In article <6383BFA2-EAA0-4A86-8591-85B626E5328B.DeleteThis@microsoft.com>, Dwarkin wrote:

I wouldn't hold my breath. It's rare that programs read files from more than a
few versions back; I've never heard of the government stepping in and demanding
that they do so. If it's in the company's competitive and financial interests
to make it happen, they'll do so. Otherwise no.

Realistically, how many people do you imagine are still using files from
PowerPoint 95 and earlier (from 12 or more years ago)? I doubt very much that
it'd be worth MS' time and money to build the converter, particularly when
anyone with a copy of an earlier version of PPT can convert the files to
something that 2007 can read.

There's a macro here that'll automate it in fact:

Batch re-save presentations; update older presentations to newer PowerPoint
version
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00740.htm


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On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:04 AM
Greg wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
This question "realistically how many people do you imagine are using files
from Powerpoint 95 and earlier...?" displays a truly out-of-touch
understanding of the use of Powerpoint by academicians. Loss of backward
compatibility is a huge issue, for so many reasons that I cannot count.
Powerpoint is used in academia to create figures, etc. for lectures,
manuscripts, grants, etc. Backward compatibility, no matter how far back, is
essential to the utility of the program. Few people have probably discovered
yet that they cannot go back to files that they created 10 years ago to take
another look at the figure or to modify it. As they discover this, more and
more people will become disgusted. The effect on MS will only be felt if
another company produces a better product. But what happened to companies
that really care about the quality of their product, rather than simply, gee,
I don/t see how we can make any additional money if we make the product
better?



"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:32 PM
Bill Dilworth wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
Thank you for the great feedback Greg,

Unfortunately, there is no one here but use chickens. Everyone here in the
newsgroup is a user, like yourself. No one here works for Microsoft.

In my experience, it is often worthwhile to keep a version of older software
running on virtual machines, so that when (yes, when) support is dropped for
an older version (by whatever company), you still have access to it.


Bill Dilworth

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On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:44 PM
Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
In article <B17B18E4-C6B0-4FEA-87EF-E0C36BB30EAB.DeleteThis@microsoft.com>, GregO wrote:

You're probably right there. I'm not an academician.

On the other hand, I live with several of them and find that they, or at least their
students, are at the leading edge when it comes to software upgrades, if only because
the latest/greatest is all that's on offer at student/teacher discount prices.


I can understand that, and I do think MS should do a better job of making users aware
of compatibility issues. but realisitically, infinite backward compatibility is just
not in the cards. Few programs read files created more than a few versions back.
That PowerPoint and the other Office apps can still go back four versions and read
and edit files from 12 years ago is, to me, quite remarkable.

We may disagree on this, but I think users really need to take responsibility for the
continued viability of files that are valuable to their work.

Just as they should back up their work and periodically verify that the backups still
work, they need to do some testing when updating to new software. And just as they'd
expect to do a conversion when changing backup media (from floppies to tape to CD to
DVD to whatever comes next) they'll sometimes need to convert older files to newer
formats.


They can always keep an older version of the software installed to handle conversions
from the really old formats to something that the newest versions will read. Or keep
an older PC around for this sort of work. Or use Virtual Machines. And I'd guess
that if there's enough demand for it, people will start businesses based on doing
these kinds of conversions.


As with just about any other enterprise you can imagine, resources at MS are not
unlimited. Someone has to make the decision where to spend them: on fixing known
bugs, on adding new features, on maintaining backward compatibility, etc.

And before they can spend the resources on *anything*, they need to earn the money to
pay the bills. Unless they make add'l money, the product dies.




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On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:16 PM
Bil wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
Bill -

I have Vista ultimate and about 50 old powerpoints from pre-1998 to be
converted.

I downloaded Virtual Machine from the Microsoft website. Am I right that
the steps are:

1. download virtual machine
2. install virtual machine
3. load something like windows 2000 or 98 as the OS on the VM
4. Install the MS Batch converter (which was never updated to Vista)
5. Run it
6. Move the files to a place where I can access them from my Office 2007 ppt

Am I right? Is it that easy?

Bill

"Bill Dilworth" wrote:

On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:31 PM
Bil wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
I GOT IT!!!

Microsoft is tricky, but there are work arounds to the planned obsolescence.
This isn't perfect but at least I can see my old work.

Trapped in Vista with Powerpoint 2007 needing to see powerpoint 1997 (4).
1. Download PowerPointViewer 1997
2. Install it in Vista (but in a folder with 97 on the end so you can find
it later)
3. Open it
4. Navigate to the file you want to get into.
5. Print it to a pdf (from Viewer)

Then You at least have the Adobe Acrobat version that can be displayed for
classes, printed, and viewed with user-friendly backward compatibility.

Bill

"Bill Dilworth" wrote:

On Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:15 PM
Echo S wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
That's pretty slick, Bill. Well done.

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On Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:36 PM
Prof Patrick wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
I agree ..... I have a number of Powerpoint '95 presentations and I'm at a
loss now. It would be so easy for microsoft to create a few online
converters ... Easy to find, easy to administrate, and providing customer
service without having to redistribute software ..... just put an online
upload and converter online please!!

Patrick

"GregO" wrote:

On Monday, August 31, 2009 5:28 PM
Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
If it's that easy to do and if there's sufficient need to support it, I expect someone will do
it. Would you be willing to pay them a fair price per conversion if so?

And look at it from Microsoft's point of view: if you had to choose among spending a
programmer's time on

- adding new features that'll help sell the next version of the software, OR

- fixing bugs in the current version, OR

- creating and maintaining a free service (it sounds like that's what you're asking for?) to
support a smallish number of users with fourteen-year-old files,

which would you spend the resources on? Bearing in mind that:

- MS has already published batch updaters several times in the past.

- by installing an older version, you can use the code I've provided to update your own older
files to a format that current versions can read.




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In article <2009101685622bstggmdd RemoveThis @yahoo.com>, Ralph Long wrote:
> I have had the same problem recovering old formats.
> solution was just to find an old machine/sys.

Or use VMWare/Virtual PC to install an old system + software on a newer PC.

> Consider recovering 35 mm slides or OH transparencies. Recovering ppt-95 files relatively easy.
>
> I also have an R-12 air conditioner.

Shhhhhh.


>
> Steve Rindsberg wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> 31-Aug-09
>
> If it's that easy to do and if there's sufficient need to support it, I expect someone will do
> it. Would you be willing to pay them a fair price per conversion if so?
>
> And look at it from Microsoft's point of view: if you had to choose among spending a
> programmer's time on
>
> - adding new features that'll help sell the next version of the software, OR
>
> - fixing bugs in the current version, OR
>
> - creating and maintaining a free service (it sounds like that's what you're asking for?) to
> support a smallish number of users with fourteen-year-old files,
>
> which would you spend the resources on? Bearing in mind that:
>
> - MS has already published batch updaters several times in the past.
>
> - by installing an older version, you can use the code I've provided to update your own older
> files to a format that current versions can read.
>
> In article <37B9FDEE-B4D2-4088-AB07-D1580630E4FB RemoveThis @microsoft.com>, Prof Patrick wrote:
>
> ==============================
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> http://www.pptfaq.com/
>
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> Previous Posts In This Thread:
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2007 9:40 AM
> dw wrote:
>
> I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> I cannot open presentations created in powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007.
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2007 9:55 AM
> Patrick Schmid [MVP] wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> Correct. PPT 2007 does not open or save ppt 95 files. You'll have to
> open them with PPT 97-2003 and save it in the 97-2003 file format.
>
> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> --------------
> http://pschmid.net
> ***
> Outlook 2007 Performance Update: http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/13/105
> Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
> ***
> Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
> RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
> OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
> ***
> Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
>
> "dwk" <dwk RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DA6F970E-531C-456D-968A-308B749927D5@microsoft.com:
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2007 3:04 PM
> dw wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> bad news for me- I installed 2007 as a complete new install and wiped out my
> old version of office 2000.
>
> "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2007 3:20 PM
> Michael Koerner wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> You might have someone who still has an earlier version of PowerPoint on
> their system to update it for you. Being a 95 presentation, probably to
> large to email.
>
> --
> Michael Koerner
> MS MVP - PowerPoint
>
> "dwk" <dwk RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CD5A53AE-B49F-4762-8EF1-7B7C1D546E8A@microsoft.com...
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2007 3:36 PM
> dw wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> I know - it is just a pain to have to do this. I teach and I do not always
> use the same slide shows every semester. I appreciate the immediate
> responses!
>
> "Michael Koerner" wrote:
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2007 4:50 PM
> Michael Koerner wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> How large is the ppt file? If it is not overly large, I'd be more than happy
> to convert it from a 95 to 97-2007 your choice as long as none of the
> material is sensitive.
>
> --
> Michael Koerner
> MS MVP - PowerPoint
>
> "dwk" <dwk RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C8DED45A-A0E1-4DFC-B5BE-ABE97F0EC9D7@microsoft.com...
>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:43 AM
> dwarki wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> Thank You, Micheal, for Your offer. We have about 40.000 files in older
> Office-formats whereof, about 25.000 in Office 95, about 15.000 in
> Powerpoint-Presentations and WORD-Handbooks. Where may I send them to have
> them converted? All of our former letters, a large part of our presentations-
> and handbook-archiv is in-accessible for Office 2007. I??m glad to have it
> tested since I may now decide not to updgrade from 2003 to any newer
> Office-version in my company. The same decides these days all of my collegues
> in other companies. Some of them prefer open-source because of that, since
> older office-files are accessible e.g. in open-office.
> Microsoft may learn: we users MUST have access to older files without
> restrictions. There are two main reasons to use computers: to work more
> effectively and to be able to access former datas without restrictions. As
> long as I can open PDFs from any year but not my Office-files after 5-10
> years, even the XPS-Format will not be intruduced in companies, at least not
> in europe ;-(((((
> We all would be very greatfull if microsoft would release a
> compatibility-pack for older files very urgently and would focus this problem
> in this and any later office-version as a main feature for
> business-customers.
>
> "Michael Koerner" wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:43 AM
> Michael Koerner wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
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> charset="utf-8"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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> Originally, I was under the impression that it was only one file. =
> Unfortunately since I no longer have Office 2003 on my system, I can no =
> longer work with 95 files. But you can if what you say is true that you =
> have Office 2003 on your system.
>
> To open a Microsoft Office PowerPoint 2003 presentation in Microsoft =
> PowerPoint 95, the file must first be saved to the PowerPoint 95 format. =
>
> 1.. In Office PowerPoint 2003, on the File menu, click Save As. In the =
> Save as type box, click PowerPoint 95.=20
> 2.. Click Save
>
> --=20
> Michael Koerner
> MS MVP - PowerPoint
>
> "dwarkin" <dwarkin RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
> news:374B47D5-BC3E-41C8-A7E6-61DBF0110F55@microsoft.com...
> Thank You, Micheal, for Your offer. We have about 40.000 files in =
> older=20
> Office-formats whereof, about 25.000 in Office 95, about 15.000 in=20
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> have=20
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> presentations-=20
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> have it=20
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> collegues=20
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> since=20
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> Microsoft may learn: we users MUST have access to older files without=20
> restrictions. There are two main reasons to use computers: to work =
> more=20
> effectively and to be able to access former datas without =
> restrictions. As=20
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> 5-10=20
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> least not=20
> in europe ;-(((((
> We all would be very greatfull if microsoft would release a=20
> compatibility-pack for older files very urgently and would focus this =
> problem=20
> in this and any later office-version as a main feature for=20
> business-customers.=20
>
> "Michael Koerner" wrote:
>
> > How large is the ppt file? If it is not overly large, I'd be more =
> than happy=20
> > to convert it from a 95 to 97-2007 your choice as long as none of =
> the=20
> > material is sensitive.
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Michael Koerner
> > MS MVP - PowerPoint
> >=20
> >=20
> > "dwk" <dwk RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:C8DED45A-A0E1-4DFC-B5BE-ABE97F0EC9D7@microsoft.com...
> > >I know - it is just a pain to have to do this. I teach and I do =
> not always
> > > use the same slide shows every semester. I appreciate the =
> immediate
> > > responses!
> > >
> > > "Michael Koerner" wrote:
> > >
> > >> You might have someone who still has an earlier version of =
> PowerPoint on
> > >> their system to update it for you. Being a 95 presentation, =
> probably to
> > >> large to email.
> > >>
> > >> --=20
> > >> Michael Koerner
> > >> MS MVP - PowerPoint
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "dwk" <dwk RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:CD5A53AE-B49F-4762-8EF1-7B7C1D546E8A@microsoft.com...
> > >> > bad news for me- I installed 2007 as a complete new install and =
> wiped
> > >> > out
> > >> > my
> > >> > old version of office 2000.
> > >> >
> > >> > "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Correct. PPT 2007 does not open or save ppt 95 files. You'll =
> have to
> > >> >> open them with PPT 97-2003 and save it in the 97-2003 file =
> format.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> > >> >> --------------
> > >> >> http://pschmid.net
> > >> >> ***
> > >> >> Outlook 2007 Performance Update:
> > >> >> http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/13/105
> > >> >> Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
> > >> >> ***
> > >> >> Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
> > >> >> RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
> > >> >> http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
> > >> >> OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
> > >> >> ***
> > >> >> Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "dwk" <dwk RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:DA6F970E-531C-456D-968A-308B749927D5@microsoft.com:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > I cannot open presentations created in powerpoint 95 in =
> powerpoint
> > >> >> > 2007.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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> <P>To open a Microsoft Office PowerPoint 2003 presentation in =
> Microsoft=20
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> <DIV><BR>-- <BR>  Michael Koerner<BR>MS MVP - PowerPoint</DIV>
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> <DIV>"dwarkin" <<A=20
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> =
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> B47D5-BC3E-41C8-A7E6-61DBF0110F55 RemoveThis @microsoft.com</A>...</DIV>Thank=20
> You, Micheal, for Your offer. We have about 40.000 files in older=20
> <BR>Office-formats whereof, about 25.000 in Office 95, about 15.000 in =
>
> <BR>Powerpoint-Presentations and WORD-Handbooks. Where may I send them =
> to have=20
> <BR>them converted? All of our former letters, a large part of our=20
> presentations- <BR>and handbook-archiv is in-accessible for Office =
> 2007. I=C2=B4m=20
> glad to have it <BR>tested since I may now decide not to updgrade from =
> 2003 to=20
> any newer <BR>Office-version in my company. The same decides these =
> days all of=20
> my collegues <BR>in other companies. Some of them prefer open-source =
> because=20
> of that, since <BR>older office-files are accessible e.g. in=20
> open-office.<BR>Microsoft may learn: we users MUST have access to =
> older files=20
> without <BR>restrictions. There are two main reasons to use computers: =
> to work=20
> more <BR>effectively and to be able to access former datas without=20
> restrictions. As <BR>long as I can open PDFs from any year but not my=20
> Office-files after 5-10 <BR>years, even the XPS-Format will not be =
> intruduced=20
> in companies, at least not <BR>in europe ;-(((((<BR>We all would be =
> very=20
> greatfull if microsoft would release a <BR>compatibility-pack for =
> older files=20
> very urgently and would focus this problem <BR>in this and any later=20
> office-version as a main feature for <BR>business-customers. =
> <BR><BR>"Michael=20
> Koerner" wrote:<BR><BR>> How large is the ppt file? If it is not =
> overly=20
> large, I'd be more than happy <BR>> to convert it from a 95 to =
> 97-2007 your=20
> choice as long as none of the <BR>> material is sensitive.<BR>> =
> <BR>>=20
> -- <BR>>   Michael Koerner<BR>> MS MVP - =
> PowerPoint<BR>>=20
> <BR>> <BR>> "dwk" <<A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:dwk@discussions.microsoft.com">dwk@discussions.microsoft.c=
> om</A>>=20
> wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
> =
> href=3D"news:C8DED45A-A0E1-4DFC-B5BE-ABE97F0EC9D7@microsoft.com">news:C8D=
> ED45A-A0E1-4DFC-B5BE-ABE97F0EC9D7 RemoveThis @microsoft.com</A>...<BR>>=20
> >I know - it is just a pain to have to do this.  I teach and I =
> do not=20
> always<BR>> > use the same slide shows every semester.  I=20
> appreciate the immediate<BR>> > responses!<BR>> ><BR>> =
> >=20
> "Michael Koerner" wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> You might have =
> someone=20
> who still has an earlier version of PowerPoint on<BR>> >> =
> their=20
> system to update it for you. Being a 95 presentation, probably =
> to<BR>>=20
> >> large to email.<BR>> >><BR>> >> -- <BR>> =
>
> >>   Michael Koerner<BR>> >> MS MVP -=20
> PowerPoint<BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >> "dwk" =
> <<A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:dwk@discussions.microsoft.com">dwk@discussions.microsoft.c=
> om</A>>=20
> wrote in message<BR>> >> <A=20
> =
> href=3D"news:CD5A53AE-B49F-4762-8EF1-7B7C1D546E8A@microsoft.com">news:CD5=
> A53AE-B49F-4762-8EF1-7B7C1D546E8A RemoveThis @microsoft.com</A>...<BR>>=20
> >> > bad news for me- I installed 2007 as a complete new =
> install and=20
> wiped<BR>> >> > out<BR>> >> > my<BR>> =
> >> >=20
> old version of office 2000.<BR>> >> ><BR>> >> =
> >=20
> "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:<BR>> >> ><BR>> >> =
> >>=20
> Correct. PPT 2007 does not open or save ppt 95 files. You'll have =
> to<BR>>=20
> >> >> open them with PPT 97-2003 and save it in the =
> 97-2003 file=20
> format.<BR>> >> >><BR>> >> >> Patrick =
> Schmid=20
> [OneNote MVP]<BR>> >> >> --------------<BR>> =
> >>=20
> >> <A href=3D"http://pschmid.net">http://pschmid.net</A><BR>> =
> >>=20
> >> ***<BR>> >> >> Outlook 2007 Performance=20
> Update:<BR>> >> >> <A=20
> =
> href=3D"http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/13/105">http://pschmid.net/blog/2=
> 007/04/13/105</A><BR>>=20
> >> >> Office 2007 RTM Issues: <A=20
> =
> href=3D"http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80">http://pschmid.net/blog/20=
> 06/11/13/80</A><BR>>=20
> >> >> ***<BR>> >> >> Customize Office 2007: =
> <A=20
> =
> href=3D"http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize">http://pschmid.net/offic=
> e2007/customize</A><BR>>=20
> >> >> RibbonCustomizer Add-In:<BR>> >> >> =
> <A=20
> =
> href=3D"http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer">http://pschmid.ne=
> t/office2007/ribboncustomizer</A><BR>>=20
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> =
> href=3D"http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote">http://pschmid.net/office2=
> 007/onenote</A><BR>>=20
> >> >> ***<BR>> >> >> Subscribe to my Office =
> 2007=20
> blog: <A=20
> =
> href=3D"http://pschmid.net/blog/feed">http://pschmid.net/blog/feed</A><BR=
> >> >><BR>> >> >> "dwk" <<A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:dwk@discussions.microsoft.com">dwk@discussions.microsoft.c=
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> On Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 PM
> Karen O'Qui wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> I have this problem as well (although maybe a hundred files instead of
> thousands). The problem is BACKWARD compatibility, not the usual problem of
> forward compatibility. My Office 2003, running under Vista, will NOT open
> any PowerPoint files created before 2002. I have the same problem on my work
> machine, which is running Office 2007 under Windows XP. The problem, so far,
> seems to be limited to PowerPoint--I do not have the same problem with Word
> files.
>
> I have searched in vain for a solution. PLEASE give us a fix for this
> problem--it's huge.
>
> Karen O'Quin
> Professor
>
> "Michael Koerner" wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:47 AM
> Pia Bork wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> Karen O'Quin wrote:
>
> Office 2003 with Service Pack 2? Can you try this:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941636/en-us
>
> --
> Mit vielen Gr??en
> Pia Bork
>
> MVP PowerPoint
> http://www.ppt-faq.de
>
> On Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:06 PM
> dwarki wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> Pia, this does not help: using this merely takes away the
> security-restrictions; we??ve tryed that. The problem is that Microsoft has
> not implemented any converter for those elder file-types in 2007. But as
> Microsoft wrote: we users may learn that our content is limited by decisions
> from MS. This mean, merely as long accessible as Microsoft is willing to
> allow us to do so.
> I??m very curious how long it will take until EU-Commission or US-authorities
> will watch this as using market-power against customers.
>
> "Pia Bork" wrote:
>
> On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:16 AM
> Steve Rindsberg wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> In article <6383BFA2-EAA0-4A86-8591-85B626E5328B RemoveThis @microsoft.com>, Dwarkin wrote:
>
> I wouldn't hold my breath. It's rare that programs read files from more than a
> few versions back; I've never heard of the government stepping in and demanding
> that they do so. If it's in the company's competitive and financial interests
> to make it happen, they'll do so. Otherwise no.
>
> Realistically, how many people do you imagine are still using files from
> PowerPoint 95 and earlier (from 12 or more years ago)? I doubt very much that
> it'd be worth MS' time and money to build the converter, particularly when
> anyone with a copy of an earlier version of PPT can convert the files to
> something that 2007 can read.
>
> There's a macro here that'll automate it in fact:
>
> Batch re-save presentations; update older presentations to newer PowerPoint
> version
> http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00740.htm
>
> -----------------------------------------
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> On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:04 AM
> Greg wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> This question "realistically how many people do you imagine are using files
> from Powerpoint 95 and earlier...?" displays a truly out-of-touch
> understanding of the use of Powerpoint by academicians. Loss of backward
> compatibility is a huge issue, for so many reasons that I cannot count.
> Powerpoint is used in academia to create figures, etc. for lectures,
> manuscripts, grants, etc. Backward compatibility, no matter how far back, is
> essential to the utility of the program. Few people have probably discovered
> yet that they cannot go back to files that they created 10 years ago to take
> another look at the figure or to modify it. As they discover this, more and
> more people will become disgusted. The effect on MS will only be felt if
> another company produces a better product. But what happened to companies
> that really care about the quality of their product, rather than simply, gee,
> I don/t see how we can make any additional money if we make the product
> better?
>
> "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:32 PM
> Bill Dilworth wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> Thank you for the great feedback Greg,
>
> Unfortunately, there is no one here but use chickens. Everyone here in the
> newsgroup is a user, like yourself. No one here works for Microsoft.
>
> In my experience, it is often worthwhile to keep a version of older software
> running on virtual machines, so that when (yes, when) support is dropped for
> an older version (by whatever company), you still have access to it.
>
> Bill Dilworth
>
> "GregO" <GregO RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B17B18E4-C6B0-4FEA-87EF-E0C36BB30EAB@microsoft.com...
>
> On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:44 PM
> Steve Rindsberg wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> In article <B17B18E4-C6B0-4FEA-87EF-E0C36BB30EAB RemoveThis @microsoft.com>, GregO wrote:
>
> You're probably right there. I'm not an academician.
>
> On the other hand, I live with several of them and find that they, or at least their
> students, are at the leading edge when it comes to software upgrades, if only because
> the latest/greatest is all that's on offer at student/teacher discount prices.
>
> I can understand that, and I do think MS should do a better job of making users aware
> of compatibility issues. but realisitically, infinite backward compatibility is just
> not in the cards. Few programs read files created more than a few versions back.
> That PowerPoint and the other Office apps can still go back four versions and read
> and edit files from 12 years ago is, to me, quite remarkable.
>
> We may disagree on this, but I think users really need to take responsibility for the
> continued viability of files that are valuable to their work.
>
> Just as they should back up their work and periodically verify that the backups still
> work, they need to do some testing when updating to new software. And just as they'd
> expect to do a conversion when changing backup media (from floppies to tape to CD to
> DVD to whatever comes next) they'll sometimes need to convert older files to newer
> formats.
>
> They can always keep an older version of the software installed to handle conversions
> from the really old formats to something that the newest versions will read. Or keep
> an older PC around for this sort of work. Or use Virtual Machines. And I'd guess
> that if there's enough demand for it, people will start businesses based on doing
> these kinds of conversions.
>
> As with just about any other enterprise you can imagine, resources at MS are not
> unlimited. Someone has to make the decision where to spend them: on fixing known
> bugs, on adding new features, on maintaining backward compatibility, etc.
>
> And before they can spend the resources on *anything*, they need to earn the money to
> pay the bills. Unless they make add'l money, the product dies.
>
>
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> On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:16 PM
> Bil wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> Bill -
>
> I have Vista ultimate and about 50 old powerpoints from pre-1998 to be
> converted.
>
> I downloaded Virtual Machine from the Microsoft website. Am I right that
> the steps are:
>
> 1. download virtual machine
> 2. install virtual machine
> 3. load something like windows 2000 or 98 as the OS on the VM
> 4. Install the MS Batch converter (which was never updated to Vista)
> 5. Run it
> 6. Move the files to a place where I can access them from my Office 2007 ppt
>
> Am I right? Is it that easy?
>
> Bill
>
> "Bill Dilworth" wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:31 PM
> Bil wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> I GOT IT!!!
>
> Microsoft is tricky, but there are work arounds to the planned obsolescence.
> This isn't perfect but at least I can see my old work.
>
> Trapped in Vista with Powerpoint 2007 needing to see powerpoint 1997 (4).
> 1. Download PowerPointViewer 1997
> 2. Install it in Vista (but in a folder with 97 on the end so you can find
> it later)
> 3. Open it
> 4. Navigate to the file you want to get into.
> 5. Print it to a pdf (from Viewer)
>
> Then You at least have the Adobe Acrobat version that can be displayed for
> classes, printed, and viewed with user-friendly backward compatibility.
>
> Bill
>
> "Bill Dilworth" wrote:
>
> On Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:15 PM
> Echo S wrote:
>
> Re: I cannot open powerpoint 95 in powerpoint 2007
> That's pretty slick, Bill. Well done.


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