same indentation for bulletpoint and bulletnumber

Thank you Stefan for your reply.

I still prefer to use macro to do this, Stefan. But i'll jot down your
advise anyway for future reference.

Many thanks

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

> As far as I know, there is no easy way to affect the behavior of the Enter
> key. However, to make it easier for users, you can add a toolbar button (to
> a toolbar) that applies (say) Normal style to text, and teach the users to
> make use of that button.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
>
> "Associates" <Associates.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:86499830-32AF-4321-B7C1-45E288B888D0@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> > I used RestartListNumbering sub from the link you provided and it worked
> > great. It forces re-start. So that solved the re-start issue.
> >
> > However, i don't know how to move the cursor back to its original
> > position.
> > I realised that you advised to use ctrl + shift + N to change the
> > paragraph
> > style to Normal. But is there any way of getting the word to do that for
> > me?
> > because normally when user want to finish with the list number, he or she
> > just needs to press "Enter" key twice and word automatically moves the
> > cursor
> > back to the position where it should be. I could use ctrl+shift+N key to
> > apply the Normal style to paragraph but am trying to make it as easy as
> > possible for normal users to use it.
> >
> > Really appreciates your help and time.
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> >
> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >
> >> To "turn off" numbering you should apply a different paragraph style. For
> >> example, you can press Ctrl+Shift+N to apply the Normal style to a
> >> paragraph.
> >>
> >> With style-based numbering, the default is not to restart it. For ways to
> >> force restarts, see the article at
> >> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/listrestartmethods.htm (the easiest
> >> way
> >> is making use of an outline-numbered list).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Stefan Blom
> >> Microsoft Word MVP
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Associates" <Associates.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2DBB4647-C795-403B-A52F-5A631B951D34@microsoft.com...
> >> > Stefan,
> >> >
> >> > Yes, i went to modify "List Number" from the Style and formatting list.
> >> > I
> >> > think this is level 1 or single-level as i can see there are "List
> >> > Number
> >> > 2",
> >> > "List Number 3" and so on on the list. However, after changing the
> >> > number
> >> > indentation, Text tab spaces for the "List Number", i went to test it
> >> > out.
> >> >
> >> > When i inserted the number points to the document as follows
> >> > 1. testing 1
> >> > 2. testing 2
> >> > |
> >> > |
> >> >
> >> > Then, i pressed "Enter" twice to get out of the points because i wanna
> >> > insert another paragraphs. What i found bizarre was the cursor point
> >> > was
> >> > actually indented as labelled as "|"
> >> >
> >> > Then, i had to press "backspace" key twice to bring the cursor back to
> >> > its
> >> > original position as follows
> >> > 1. testing 1
> >> > 2. testing 2
> >> > |
> >> >
> >> > Next, i entered some texts and inserted another Number points to it as
> >> > follows
> >> > 1. testing 1
> >> > 2. testing 2
> >> >
> >> > Testing Testing Testing
> >> > 3. testing 1 again
> >> >
> >> > What happen was it did not re-start the numbering but instead, it
> >> > continued
> >> > the numbering from the previous as shown above. It should be
> >> > 1. testing 1 again
> >> >
> >> > rather than "3. testing 1 again". I don't know where it went wrong.
> >> >
> >> > Any helps would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you in advance
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Assuming that you are referring to single-level numbering, you could
> >> >> use
> >> >> the
> >> >> built-in paragraph styles that have been defined with numbering and
> >> >> bullet
> >> >> formatting, respectively. To find these styles, hold Shift as you
> >> >> click
> >> >> the
> >> >> arrow next to the Style box (Formatting toolbar).
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Stefan Blom
> >> >> Microsoft Word MVP
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Associates" <Associates.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:E9CFD965-89B4-46CF-A1D2-8A7F94EA5000@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Thank you Stefan for your reply.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have checked both macros for NumberPosition, TextPosition, and
> >> >> > TabPosition
> >> >> > and They are the same in value.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have also checked the bullet position and Text position in the
> >> >> > customised
> >> >> > bulleted list under the bullet and numbering dialog box and compared
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > the number position and again they are the same.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > With respect to the other option you were talking about, is it the
> >> >> > List
> >> >> > styles under Bullets and Numbering? Could you please elaborate this
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > bit
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > me?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thank you in advance
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Make sure that both macros use the same values for NumberPosition,
> >> >> >> TextPosition, and TabPosition.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Note, however, that it would be easier to apply the formatting with
> >> >> >> styles.
> >> >> >> Use a style from the List Number (for number formatting) and one
> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> List Bullet series (for bullet formatting). If you want to, you can
> >> >> >> modify
> >> >> >> these styles to suit your needs.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Stefan Blom
> >> >> >> Microsoft Word MVP
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Associates" <Associates.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:44C651D1-B3DD-44E4-B3AF-DA7FBE59059B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I wonder if anyone might be able to help me with bullet point and
> >> >> >> > bullet
> >> >> >> > number in word 03.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I have two macros, insertBulletPoint and insertBulletNumber that
> >> >> >> > help
> >> >> >> > insert bullet point and bullet number to the document
> >> >> >> > respectively.
> >> >> >> > However,
> >> >> >> > the problem i have here is that say, i inserted bullet points
> >> >> >> > first
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > follows (pretend that the circle i am using here represents a
> >> >> >> > solid
> >> >> >> > dot/circle
> >> >> >> > o Grocery shopping
> >> >> >> > o Clothing
> >> >> >> > o Christmas shopping
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Then, i inserted bullet number (1,2,3,...) after the bullet
> >> >> >> > points.
> >> >> >> > The
> >> >> >> > result was it was indented further in as follows
> >> >> >> > 1. Project A
> >> >> >> > 2. Project B
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > My question is how to make them lined up the same (or the same
> >> >> >> > indentation)
> >> >> >> > regardless whichever goes first.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I got the code for insertbulletnumber macro here that is from the
> >> >> >> > macro
> >> >> >> > recording result
> >> >> >> > With
> >> >> >> > ListGalleries(wdBulletGallery).ListTemplates(1).ListLevels(1)
> >> >> >> > .NumberFormat = ChrW(61623)
> >> >> >> > .TrailingCharacter = wdTrailingTab
> >> >> >> > .NumberStyle = wdListNumberStyleBullet
> >> >> >> > .NumberPosition = CentimetersToPoints(0.63)
> >> >> >> > .Alignment = wdListLevelAlignLeft
> >> >> >> > .TextPosition = CentimetersToPoints(1.27)
> >> >> >> > .TabPosition = CentimetersToPoints(1.27)
> >> >> >> > .ResetOnHigher = 0
> >> >> >> > .StartAt = 1
> >> >> >> > With .Font
> >> >> >> > .Bold = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Italic = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .StrikeThrough = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Subscript = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Superscript = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Shadow = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Outline = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Emboss = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Engrave = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .AllCaps = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Hidden = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Underline = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Color = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Size = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Animation = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .DoubleStrikeThrough = wdUndefined
> >> >> >> > .Name = "Symbol"
> >> >> >> > End With
> >> >> >> > .LinkedStyle = ""
> >> >> >> > End With
> >> >> >> > ListGalleries(wdBulletGallery).ListTemplates(1).Name = ""
> >> >> >> > Selection.Range.ListFormat.ApplyListTemplate
> >> >> >> > ListTemplate:=ListGalleries( _
> >> >> >> > wdBulletGallery).ListTemplates(1),
> >> >> >> > ContinuePreviousList:=False,
> >> >> >> > ApplyTo:= _
> >> >> >> > wdListApplyToWholeList,
> >> >> >> > DefaultListBehavior:=wdWord10ListBehavior
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thank you for your help in advance
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

"Associates" <Associates.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:13A66C8D-BCEF-4E9D-A6A8-5BF1F5BD21EE@microsoft.com...
> Thank you Stefan for your reply.
>
> I still prefer to use macro to do this, Stefan. But i'll jot down your
> advise anyway for future reference.
>

If you haven't already, then you may want to try asking in a programming
newsgroup such as microsoft.public.word.vba.general.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP







> Many thanks
>
> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, there is no easy way to affect the behavior of the
>> Enter
>> key. However, to make it easier for users, you can add a toolbar button
>> (to
>> a toolbar) that applies (say) Normal style to text, and teach the users
>> to
>> make use of that button.
>>
>> --
>> Stefan Blom
>> Microsoft Word MVP
>>
>>
>>
>> "Associates" <Associates.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:86499830-32AF-4321-B7C1-45E288B888D0@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Stefan,
>> >
>> > I used RestartListNumbering sub from the link you provided and it
>> > worked
>> > great. It forces re-start. So that solved the re-start issue.
>> >
>> > However, i don't know how to move the cursor back to its original
>> > position.
>> > I realised that you advised to use ctrl + shift + N to change the
>> > paragraph
>> > style to Normal. But is there any way of getting the word to do that
>> > for
>> > me?
>> > because normally when user want to finish with the list number, he or
>> > she
>> > just needs to press "Enter" key twice and word automatically moves the
>> > cursor
>> > back to the position where it should be. I could use ctrl+shift+N key
>> > to
>> > apply the Normal style to paragraph but am trying to make it as easy as
>> > possible for normal users to use it.
>> >
>> > Really appreciates your help and time.
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance
>> >
>> >
>> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>> >
>> >> To "turn off" numbering you should apply a different paragraph style.
>> >> For
>> >> example, you can press Ctrl+Shift+N to apply the Normal style to a
>> >> paragraph.
>> >>
>> >> With style-based numbering, the default is not to restart it. For ways
>> >> to
>> >> force restarts, see the article at
>> >> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/listrestartmethods.htm (the
>> >> easiest
>> >> way
>> >> is making use of an outline-numbered list).
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Stefan Blom
>> >> Microsoft Word MVP
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Associates" <Associates.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2DBB4647-C795-403B-A52F-5A631B951D34@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Stefan,
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, i went to modify "List Number" from the Style and formatting
>> >> > list.
>> >> > I
>> >> > think this is level 1 or single-level as i can see there are "List
>> >> > Number
>> >> > 2",
>> >> > "List Number 3" and so on on the list. However, after changing the
>> >> > number
>> >> > indentation, Text tab spaces for the "List Number", i went to test
>> >> > it
>> >> > out.
>> >> >
>> >> > When i inserted the number points to the document as follows
>> >> > 1. testing 1
>> >> > 2. testing 2
>> >> > |
>> >> > |
>> >> >
>> >> > Then, i pressed "Enter" twice to get out of the points because i
>> >> > wanna
>> >> > insert another paragraphs. What i found bizarre was the cursor point
>> >> > was
>> >> > actually indented as labelled as "|"
>> >> >
>> >> > Then, i had to press "backspace" key twice to bring the cursor back
>> >> > to
>> >> > its
>> >> > original position as follows
>> >> > 1. testing 1
>> >> > 2. testing 2
>> >> > |
>> >> >
>> >> > Next, i entered some texts and inserted another Number points to it
>> >> > as
>> >> > follows
>> >> > 1. testing 1
>> >> > 2. testing 2
>> >> >
>> >> > Testing Testing Testing
>> >> > 3. testing 1 again
>> >> >
>> >> > What happen was it did not re-start the numbering but instead, it
>> >> > continued
>> >> > the numbering from the previous as shown above. It should be
>> >> > 1. testing 1 again
>> >> >
>> >> > rather than "3. testing 1 again". I don't know where it went wrong.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any helps would be greatly appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you in advance
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Assuming that you are referring to single-level numbering, you
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> use
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> built-in paragraph styles that have been defined with numbering and
>> >> >> bullet
>> >> >> formatting, respectively. To find these styles, hold Shift as you
>> >> >> click
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> arrow next to the Style box (Formatting toolbar).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Stefan Blom
>> >> >> Microsoft Word MVP
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Associates" <Associates.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:E9CFD965-89B4-46CF-A1D2-8A7F94EA5000@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Thank you Stefan for your reply.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have checked both macros for NumberPosition, TextPosition, and
>> >> >> > TabPosition
>> >> >> > and They are the same in value.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have also checked the bullet position and Text position in the
>> >> >> > customised
>> >> >> > bulleted list under the bullet and numbering dialog box and
>> >> >> > compared
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > the number position and again they are the same.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > With respect to the other option you were talking about, is it
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > List
>> >> >> > styles under Bullets and Numbering? Could you please elaborate
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > bit
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > me?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thank you in advance
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Make sure that both macros use the same values for
>> >> >> >> NumberPosition,
>> >> >> >> TextPosition, and TabPosition.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Note, however, that it would be easier to apply the formatting
>> >> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> styles.
>> >> >> >> Use a style from the List Number (for number formatting) and one
>> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> List Bullet series (for bullet formatting). If you want to, you
>> >> >> >> can
>> >> >> >> modify
>> >> >> >> these styles to suit your needs.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Stefan Blom
>> >> >> >> Microsoft Word MVP
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Associates" <Associates.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:44C651D1-B3DD-44E4-B3AF-DA7FBE59059B@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I wonder if anyone might be able to help me with bullet point
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > bullet
>> >> >> >> > number in word 03.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I have two macros, insertBulletPoint and insertBulletNumber
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > help
>> >> >> >> > insert bullet point and bullet number to the document
>> >> >> >> > respectively.
>> >> >> >> > However,
>> >> >> >> > the problem i have here is that say, i inserted bullet points
>> >> >> >> > first
>> >> >> >> > as
>> >> >> >> > follows (pretend that the circle i am using here represents a
>> >> >> >> > solid
>> >> >> >> > dot/circle
>> >> >> >> > o Grocery shopping
>> >> >> >> > o Clothing
>> >> >> >> > o Christmas shopping
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Then, i inserted bullet number (1,2,3,...) after the bullet
>> >> >> >> > points.
>> >> >> >> > The
>> >> >> >> > result was it was indented further in as follows
>> >> >> >> > 1. Project A
>> >> >> >> > 2. Project B
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > My question is how to make them lined up the same (or the same
>> >> >> >> > indentation)
>> >> >> >> > regardless whichever goes first.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I got the code for insertbulletnumber macro here that is from
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > macro
>> >> >> >> > recording result
>> >> >> >> > With
>> >> >> >> > ListGalleries(wdBulletGallery).ListTemplates(1).ListLevels(1)
>> >> >> >> > .NumberFormat = ChrW(61623)
>> >> >> >> > .TrailingCharacter = wdTrailingTab
>> >> >> >> > .NumberStyle = wdListNumberStyleBullet
>> >> >> >> > .NumberPosition = CentimetersToPoints(0.63)
>> >> >> >> > .Alignment = wdListLevelAlignLeft
>> >> >> >> > .TextPosition = CentimetersToPoints(1.27)
>> >> >> >> > .TabPosition = CentimetersToPoints(1.27)
>> >> >> >> > .ResetOnHigher = 0
>> >> >> >> > .StartAt = 1
>> >> >> >> > With .Font
>> >> >> >> > .Bold = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Italic = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .StrikeThrough = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Subscript = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Superscript = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Shadow = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Outline = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Emboss = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Engrave = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .AllCaps = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Hidden = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Underline = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Color = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Size = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Animation = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .DoubleStrikeThrough = wdUndefined
>> >> >> >> > .Name = "Symbol"
>> >> >> >> > End With
>> >> >> >> > .LinkedStyle = ""
>> >> >> >> > End With
>> >> >> >> > ListGalleries(wdBulletGallery).ListTemplates(1).Name = ""
>> >> >> >> > Selection.Range.ListFormat.ApplyListTemplate
>> >> >> >> > ListTemplate:=ListGalleries( _
>> >> >> >> > wdBulletGallery).ListTemplates(1),
>> >> >> >> > ContinuePreviousList:=False,
>> >> >> >> > ApplyTo:= _
>> >> >> >> > wdListApplyToWholeList,
>> >> >> >> > DefaultListBehavior:=wdWord10ListBehavior
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thank you for your help in advance
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>