(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:44 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>powerpoint (more info?)
In article <VA.00004357.3af9f748 RemoveThis @localhost.com>, Steve Rindsberg wrote:
> In article <1189ECDC-A939-4C6D-80CE-41CFD6DCED14 RemoveThis @microsoft.com>, Dave Jenkins
> wrote:
> > Seems to me that we might be safe in deleteing the ones the OM says have a
> > null name, dont ya think? Of what use would a tag with no name and no value
> > be? That is, is it even conceivable that someplace, somewhere, someone is
> > counting on tags of that ilk?
>
> I'm sure they're there for a reason.
Any chance the files went through some sort of content management system?
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:17 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Dave,
>> 1. I don't like the Arial Unicode there (it is not necessary)
> Not sure what you mean with that comment - this clinet uses Arial a lot.
> Where did you see it that it concerned you?
"Arial" is not "Arial Unicode". "Arial" weighs 359 Kb, "Arial Unicode"
weighs 22731 Kb.
Imagine the weight increase if fonts are embedded... but the main problem
is... is *really* Arial Unicode needed? Is it used somewhere?
>> 2. Why is the notes master in German?
> Most of the client personnel using these PPT files are German. I'm
> presuming that they will be creating their speaker notes using a lot words
> that will be fmailiar to them, and hence want to specify a German
> dictionary. Why - do you see that as an impediment to proper processing
> of their templates?
OK.
You know who your clients are... I don't...
but...
Notes master is German, first Note is English (U.K.)... Does *the German*
"remain" when you create a new slide and type text on the notes? is it
German in 2003? is it German in 2007?
>> 3. The <Nº> in notes master is "suspicious" to me...
> Where do you see that?
At the bottom of the Notes page's Master (centered).
Neither in 2003 or in 2007's Notes page's Master are you using the *real*
"Page number" placeholder... It *seems* a placeholder... and behaves like a
placeholder... but I don't like it. *Another* placeholder appears when I
select "Page Number" in Placeholders in Notes Master.
Very cordialmente
Enric
--
Enric Mañas [PowerPoint MVP]
"Dave Jenkins" <david.f.jenkins RemoveThis @usa.net.(spam-ugh!)> escribió en el mensaje
news:9B5216A9-CC02-49B3-BA48-9935D9C09270@microsoft.com...
>
> "Enric Mañas" wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> http://skp.mvps.org/toolbox/index.html >>
>> free time-limited trial version
>>
>> 1. I don't like the Arial Unicode there (it is not necessary)
>
> Not sure what you mean with that comment - this clinet uses Arial a lot.
> Where did you see it that it concerned you?
>
>> 2. Why is the notes master in German?
>
> Most of the client personnel using these PPT files are German. I'm
> presuming that they will be creating their speaker notes using a lot words
> that will be fmailiar to them, and hence want to specify a German
> dictionary. Why - do you see that as an impediment to proper processing
> of
> their templates?
>
>> 3. The <Nº> in notes master is "suspicious" to me...
>
> Where do you see that?
>
>
>>
>> Don't go back and forth 2003 & 2007, and if PowerPoint:mac is also in the
>> equation... all will be worse...
>>
>> >>
>> Very cordialmente
>>
>> Enric
>> --
>> Enric Mañas [PowerPoint MVP]
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dave Jenkins" <david.f.jenkins RemoveThis @usa.net.(spam-ugh!)> escribió en el
>> mensaje
>> news:1189ECDC-A939-4C6D-80CE-41CFD6DCED14@microsoft.com...
>> > Seems to me that we might be safe in deleteing the ones the OM says
>> > have a
>> > null name, dont ya think? Of what use would a tag with no name and no
>> > value
>> > be? That is, is it even conceivable that someplace, somewhere, someone
>> > is
>> > counting on tags of that ilk?
>> >
>> > Is it not exceedingly weird that in looking at the .PPT file in 2007 it
>> > says
>> > that there are 5 tags, and in looking at identically the same file in
>> > 2003,
>> > it says there are 6? What in the world is up with that?
>> >
>> > Also, your script file exposes a lot of stuff that's not in the OM
>> > (AFAIK) -
>> > where is all that stored? Are "datasize," "type," et al. just some
>> > secret
>> > properties?
>> >
>> > And another thing, while I'm still cranky: What kind of low-budget
>> > error
>> > message is it that will warn you that your file has EITHER hyperlinks
>> > OR
>> > binary tags? How hard would it have been to create TWO individual
>> > errors -
>> > one for each condition? At the very minimum they could have supplied
>> > instructions on how to tell which of thse conditions was causing the
>> > error.
>> >
>> > Thanks for looking at this, Glen, John and Steve!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dave Jenkins
>> > K5KX
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>> >
>> >> What's weird is that PPT/the OM won't reveal the names.
>> >> And with the script editor gone from 2007, no way to get at them from
>> >> there, at
>> >> least none that I can think of.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In article <C3E90BD1-A131-4016-8EB4-92FAE31D9177 RemoveThis @microsoft.com>, John
>> >> Wilson
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > And now that Steve has located the names
>> >> >
>> >> > Sub zappem()
>> >> > With ActivePresentation.Tags
>> >> > ..Delete ("___PPTMAC11")
>> >> > ..Delete ("___PPT2001")
>> >> > ..Delete ("___PPT12")
>> >> > End With
>> >> > End Sub
>> >> >
>> >> > The other three tags should be there either so you might want to zap
>> >> > them
>> >> > too! Strangely in PPT2007 code my count was 5 (not 6) and like Steve
>> >> > in
>> >> > 2003
>> >> > it was 6
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> -----------------------------------------
>> >> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
>> >> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com >> >> PPTools: www.pptools.com >> >> ================================================
>> >> Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
>> >> Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
>> >> www.pptlive.com >> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:10 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Steve,
I'm having a similar problem and am not sure where to look for the file you
call the pres.xml file. Where is this?
Thanks,
Barb Reinhardt
"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
> In article <0F528807-9361-4AF4-A1CA-31D65726A978.DeleteThis@microsoft.com>, Dave Jenkins
> wrote:
> > Take a look at this test file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ezcj9a9abnh >
> Worth a thousand words. <g>
>
> If you open that and look at the PRESENTATION's .Tags.Count, you'll get 6.
>
> If you write a little code to delete them all, you'll delete YOUR tags but 3
> will still be left.
>
> Open the untouched pres in 2003 and look at the pres.xml file in the Script
> Editor and you'll see this
>
> <p:tag name="___PPT2001" type="binary" datasize="68" dataoffset="6"/>
> <p:tag name="___PPTMAC11" type="binary" datasize="1562" dataoffset="7"/>
> <p:tag name="ALREADYOPENEDONCE" type="string" value="-1"/>
> <p:tag name="PREVIOUS_ACTIVE_SLIDE" type="string" value="567"/>
> <p:tag name="RESTARTSLIDENUMBER" type="string" value="1"/>
> <p:tag name="___PPT12" type="binary" datasize="9" dataoffset="8"/>
>
> Delete the ones listed as binary, let it update when you close the script
> editor, save as PPT. NOW when you open in 2007 and save as PPTX, you get no
> backchat.
>
> So the questions are:
>
> - Where did the mystery tags come from? (something to do with Mac, apparently)
>
> - And how do we squeeze 'em out of the file?
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================
> Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> www.pptlive.com >
>
(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:07 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
>
> I'm having a similar problem and am not sure where to look for the file you
> call the pres.xml file. Where is this?
If you're using PPT 2003 and have installed the optional Script Editor, go to
Tools, Macros, Script Editor. It'll be one of the files listed on the right.
If PPT 2007, you're probably out of luck. It doesn't include the script editor.
You can rename the PPTX to give it a ZIP extension and there'll probably be a
PRES.XML file in there, but first you have to save the file as PPTX and by the
time you've done that, PPT has stripped out the binary tags already.
>
> Thanks,
> Barb Reinhardt
>
> "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>
> > In article <0F528807-9361-4AF4-A1CA-31D65726A978.RemoveThis@microsoft.com>, Dave Jenkins
> > wrote:
> > > Take a look at this test file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ezcj9a9abnh > >
> > Worth a thousand words. <g>
> >
> > If you open that and look at the PRESENTATION's .Tags.Count, you'll get 6.
> >
> > If you write a little code to delete them all, you'll delete YOUR tags but 3
> > will still be left.
> >
> > Open the untouched pres in 2003 and look at the pres.xml file in the Script
> > Editor and you'll see this
> >
> > <p:tag name="___PPT2001" type="binary" datasize="68" dataoffset="6"/>
> > <p:tag name="___PPTMAC11" type="binary" datasize="1562" dataoffset="7"/>
> > <p:tag name="ALREADYOPENEDONCE" type="string" value="-1"/>
> > <p:tag name="PREVIOUS_ACTIVE_SLIDE" type="string" value="567"/>
> > <p:tag name="RESTARTSLIDENUMBER" type="string" value="1"/>
> > <p:tag name="___PPT12" type="binary" datasize="9" dataoffset="8"/>
> >
> > Delete the ones listed as binary, let it update when you close the script
> > editor, save as PPT. NOW when you open in 2007 and save as PPTX, you get no
> > backchat.
> >
> > So the questions are:
> >
> > - Where did the mystery tags come from? (something to do with Mac, apparently)
> >
> > - And how do we squeeze 'em out of the file?
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com > > PPTools: www.pptools.com > > ================================================
> > Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> > Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> > www.pptlive.com > >
> >
>
-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
www.pptlive.com
(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:46 am
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
After I posted this question, I figured out how to get to the script editor.
The tag was tied to the presentation, not a slide. I'm wondering how it
got there. Does anyone have any ideas?
I have a feeling we're going to be finding a bunch more of these.
Thanks,
Barb Reinhardt
"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
> >
> > I'm having a similar problem and am not sure where to look for the file you
> > call the pres.xml file. Where is this?
>
> If you're using PPT 2003 and have installed the optional Script Editor, go to
> Tools, Macros, Script Editor. It'll be one of the files listed on the right.
>
> If PPT 2007, you're probably out of luck. It doesn't include the script editor.
> You can rename the PPTX to give it a ZIP extension and there'll probably be a
> PRES.XML file in there, but first you have to save the file as PPTX and by the
> time you've done that, PPT has stripped out the binary tags already.
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Barb Reinhardt
> >
> > "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
> >
> > > In article <0F528807-9361-4AF4-A1CA-31D65726A978.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com>, Dave Jenkins
> > > wrote:
> > > > Take a look at this test file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ezcj9a9abnh > > >
> > > Worth a thousand words. <g>
> > >
> > > If you open that and look at the PRESENTATION's .Tags.Count, you'll get 6.
> > >
> > > If you write a little code to delete them all, you'll delete YOUR tags but 3
> > > will still be left.
> > >
> > > Open the untouched pres in 2003 and look at the pres.xml file in the Script
> > > Editor and you'll see this
> > >
> > > <p:tag name="___PPT2001" type="binary" datasize="68" dataoffset="6"/>
> > > <p:tag name="___PPTMAC11" type="binary" datasize="1562" dataoffset="7"/>
> > > <p:tag name="ALREADYOPENEDONCE" type="string" value="-1"/>
> > > <p:tag name="PREVIOUS_ACTIVE_SLIDE" type="string" value="567"/>
> > > <p:tag name="RESTARTSLIDENUMBER" type="string" value="1"/>
> > > <p:tag name="___PPT12" type="binary" datasize="9" dataoffset="8"/>
> > >
> > > Delete the ones listed as binary, let it update when you close the script
> > > editor, save as PPT. NOW when you open in 2007 and save as PPTX, you get no
> > > backchat.
> > >
> > > So the questions are:
> > >
> > > - Where did the mystery tags come from? (something to do with Mac, apparently)
> > >
> > > - And how do we squeeze 'em out of the file?
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> > > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com > > > PPTools: www.pptools.com > > > ================================================
> > > Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> > > Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> > > www.pptlive.com > > >
> > >
> >
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================
> Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> www.pptlive.com >
>
(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:06 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
In article <4BD5062D-B799-47C0-9392-1913F3E40684 RemoveThis @microsoft.com>, Barb Reinhardt wrote:
> After I posted this question, I figured out how to get to the script editor.
> The tag was tied to the presentation, not a slide. I'm wondering how it
> got there. Does anyone have any ideas?
My guess is that it's some kind of content management system.
>
> I have a feeling we're going to be finding a bunch more of these.
>
> Thanks,
> Barb Reinhardt
>
> "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I'm having a similar problem and am not sure where to look for the file you
> > > call the pres.xml file. Where is this?
> >
> > If you're using PPT 2003 and have installed the optional Script Editor, go to
> > Tools, Macros, Script Editor. It'll be one of the files listed on the right.
> >
> > If PPT 2007, you're probably out of luck. It doesn't include the script editor.
> > You can rename the PPTX to give it a ZIP extension and there'll probably be a
> > PRES.XML file in there, but first you have to save the file as PPTX and by the
> > time you've done that, PPT has stripped out the binary tags already.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Barb Reinhardt
> > >
> > > "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <0F528807-9361-4AF4-A1CA-31D65726A978 RemoveThis @microsoft.com>, Dave Jenkins
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Take a look at this test file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ezcj9a9abnh > > > >
> > > > Worth a thousand words. <g>
> > > >
> > > > If you open that and look at the PRESENTATION's .Tags.Count, you'll get 6.
> > > >
> > > > If you write a little code to delete them all, you'll delete YOUR tags but 3
> > > > will still be left.
> > > >
> > > > Open the untouched pres in 2003 and look at the pres.xml file in the Script
> > > > Editor and you'll see this
> > > >
> > > > <p:tag name="___PPT2001" type="binary" datasize="68" dataoffset="6"/>
> > > > <p:tag name="___PPTMAC11" type="binary" datasize="1562" dataoffset="7"/>
> > > > <p:tag name="ALREADYOPENEDONCE" type="string" value="-1"/>
> > > > <p:tag name="PREVIOUS_ACTIVE_SLIDE" type="string" value="567"/>
> > > > <p:tag name="RESTARTSLIDENUMBER" type="string" value="1"/>
> > > > <p:tag name="___PPT12" type="binary" datasize="9" dataoffset="8"/>
> > > >
> > > > Delete the ones listed as binary, let it update when you close the script
> > > > editor, save as PPT. NOW when you open in 2007 and save as PPTX, you get no
> > > > backchat.
> > > >
> > > > So the questions are:
> > > >
> > > > - Where did the mystery tags come from? (something to do with Mac, apparently)
> > > >
> > > > - And how do we squeeze 'em out of the file?
> > > >
> > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> > > > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com > > > > PPTools: www.pptools.com > > > > ================================================
> > > > Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> > > > Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> > > > www.pptlive.com > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com > > PPTools: www.pptools.com > > ================================================
> > Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> > Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> > www.pptlive.com > >
> >
>
-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
www.pptlive.com
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