formatting and spellcheck in locked forms

Thanks for the tip. I'll give that a shot. I've never worked section breaks
before.

CEV

"Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:46:40 -0600, "CEV" <chadv DeleteThis @advancebkg.com> wrote:
>
>>We have a few forms I created in Word. We are currently using Word 2003.
>>There are some check boxes, combo boxes, and text boxes. We protect the
>>document so that users can fill in the form. When protected though, the
>>spell check is lost and we are also not able to use any formatting tools
>>such as bold, the ability to change font and size, and use bullets. How
>>can
>>these options be made available for protected forms?
>>
>>Thank You,
>>
>>CEV
>>
>
> For the spell check, you need the macro in
> http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/SpellcheckProtectDoc.htm.
>
> Word's form fields don't support font formatting. The closest you can come
> to
> that is to insert section breaks before and after a paragraph, and mark
> the
> section between the breaks as unprotected. To do that, click Tools >
> Protect
> Document and, in the task pane, select "Filling in forms" and then click
> the
> "Select sections" link that appears below it. Uncheck the section between
> the
> breaks.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Jay Freedman
> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so all
> may benefit.

OK, I was able to implement the section breaks. And I'm able to change
fonts, bold, etc., but am not able to use bullets in these unprotected
section breaks. Is there a reason for this or is there something else I need
to do?

Thanks,

CEV

"Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:46:40 -0600, "CEV" <chadv RemoveThis @advancebkg.com> wrote:
>
>>We have a few forms I created in Word. We are currently using Word 2003.
>>There are some check boxes, combo boxes, and text boxes. We protect the
>>document so that users can fill in the form. When protected though, the
>>spell check is lost and we are also not able to use any formatting tools
>>such as bold, the ability to change font and size, and use bullets. How
>>can
>>these options be made available for protected forms?
>>
>>Thank You,
>>
>>CEV
>>
>
> For the spell check, you need the macro in
> http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/SpellcheckProtectDoc.htm.
>
> Word's form fields don't support font formatting. The closest you can come
> to
> that is to insert section breaks before and after a paragraph, and mark
> the
> section between the breaks as unprotected. To do that, click Tools >
> Protect
> Document and, in the task pane, select "Filling in forms" and then click
> the
> "Select sections" link that appears below it. Uncheck the section between
> the
> breaks.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Jay Freedman
> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so all
> may benefit.

I don't know what the problem is. Using bullets in an unprotected section of
a mixed form works ok here. Can you do it by applying the List Bullet style?

CEV wrote:
> OK, I was able to implement the section breaks. And I'm able to change
> fonts, bold, etc., but am not able to use bullets in these unprotected
> section breaks. Is there a reason for this or is there something else
> I need to do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> CEV
>
> "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:o86oo3dap9lrelg3kbjmuhkv7a7ts4p4kq@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:46:40 -0600, "CEV" <chadv.TakeThisOut@advancebkg.com>
>> wrote:
>>> We have a few forms I created in Word. We are currently using Word
>>> 2003. There are some check boxes, combo boxes, and text boxes. We
>>> protect the document so that users can fill in the form. When
>>> protected though, the spell check is lost and we are also not able
>>> to use any formatting tools such as bold, the ability to change
>>> font and size, and use bullets. How can
>>> these options be made available for protected forms?
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>>
>>> CEV
>>>
>>
>> For the spell check, you need the macro in
>> http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/SpellcheckProtectDoc.htm.
>>
>> Word's form fields don't support font formatting. The closest you
>> can come to
>> that is to insert section breaks before and after a paragraph, and
>> mark the
>> section between the breaks as unprotected. To do that, click Tools >
>> Protect
>> Document and, in the task pane, select "Filling in forms" and then
>> click the
>> "Select sections" link that appears below it. Uncheck the section
>> between the
>> breaks.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Jay Freedman
>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> newsgroup so all
>> may benefit.

I'm using Office 2007 and it does not work. I just tested on a machine with
Office 2003 and it does work, however borders and shading does not work. I
suppose it's possible that some options will just not work?

Thanks,

CEV

"Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I don't know what the problem is. Using bullets in an unprotected section
>of a mixed form works ok here. Can you do it by applying the List Bullet
>style?
>
> CEV wrote:
>> OK, I was able to implement the section breaks. And I'm able to change
>> fonts, bold, etc., but am not able to use bullets in these unprotected
>> section breaks. Is there a reason for this or is there something else
>> I need to do?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> CEV
>>
>> "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:o86oo3dap9lrelg3kbjmuhkv7a7ts4p4kq@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:46:40 -0600, "CEV" <chadv RemoveThis @advancebkg.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> We have a few forms I created in Word. We are currently using Word
>>>> 2003. There are some check boxes, combo boxes, and text boxes. We
>>>> protect the document so that users can fill in the form. When
>>>> protected though, the spell check is lost and we are also not able
>>>> to use any formatting tools such as bold, the ability to change
>>>> font and size, and use bullets. How can
>>>> these options be made available for protected forms?
>>>>
>>>> Thank You,
>>>>
>>>> CEV
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the spell check, you need the macro in
>>> http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/SpellcheckProtectDoc.htm.
>>>
>>> Word's form fields don't support font formatting. The closest you
>>> can come to
>>> that is to insert section breaks before and after a paragraph, and
>>> mark the
>>> section between the breaks as unprotected. To do that, click Tools >
>>> Protect
>>> Document and, in the task pane, select "Filling in forms" and then
>>> click the
>>> "Select sections" link that appears below it. Uncheck the section
>>> between the
>>> breaks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Jay Freedman
>>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>> newsgroup so all
>>> may benefit.
>
>

In your original post you said you were using Word 2003. The two versions indeed
behave differently.

Word 2007 does prevent applying bullets to unprotected text through the Bullet
button or any of the List Bullet styles. I have no idea why that is -- it looks
like a bug to me.

In Word 2003 the Format > Borders & Shading menu item is disabled in the
unprotected section, but the feature still works and can be invoked by a macro.
The idea is similar to the spell-checking macro I pointed to, but much simpler:
the macro is only

Sub BordersShading()
Dialogs(wdDialogFormatBordersAndShading).Show
End Sub

Assign it to a custom toolbar button or a keyboard shortcut.

And yes, there are features that just won't work.

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:54:36 -0600, "CEV" <chadv DeleteThis @advancebkg.com> wrote:

>I'm using Office 2007 and it does not work. I just tested on a machine with
>Office 2003 and it does work, however borders and shading does not work. I
>suppose it's possible that some options will just not work?
>
>Thanks,
>
>CEV
>
>"Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:OPlnOgHXIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I don't know what the problem is. Using bullets in an unprotected section
>>of a mixed form works ok here. Can you do it by applying the List Bullet
>>style?
>>
>> CEV wrote:
>>> OK, I was able to implement the section breaks. And I'm able to change
>>> fonts, bold, etc., but am not able to use bullets in these unprotected
>>> section breaks. Is there a reason for this or is there something else
>>> I need to do?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> CEV
>>>
>>> "Jay Freedman" <jay.freedman DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:o86oo3dap9lrelg3kbjmuhkv7a7ts4p4kq@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:46:40 -0600, "CEV" <chadv DeleteThis @advancebkg.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> We have a few forms I created in Word. We are currently using Word
>>>>> 2003. There are some check boxes, combo boxes, and text boxes. We
>>>>> protect the document so that users can fill in the form. When
>>>>> protected though, the spell check is lost and we are also not able
>>>>> to use any formatting tools such as bold, the ability to change
>>>>> font and size, and use bullets. How can
>>>>> these options be made available for protected forms?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>
>>>>> CEV
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the spell check, you need the macro in
>>>> http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/SpellcheckProtectDoc.htm.
>>>>
>>>> Word's form fields don't support font formatting. The closest you
>>>> can come to
>>>> that is to insert section breaks before and after a paragraph, and
>>>> mark the
>>>> section between the breaks as unprotected. To do that, click Tools >
>>>> Protect
>>>> Document and, in the task pane, select "Filling in forms" and then
>>>> click the
>>>> "Select sections" link that appears below it. Uncheck the section
>>>> between the
>>>> breaks.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.

I have gone to the website stated in this message, but for some reason, I can
not get the Macro to work for me. Is there anyone who would be willing to
look at my form and tell me what I am doing wrong. I would GREATLY
appreciate it.

Thank you.

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:46:40 -0600, "CEV" <chadv.RemoveThis@advancebkg.com> wrote:
>
> >We have a few forms I created in Word. We are currently using Word 2003.
> >There are some check boxes, combo boxes, and text boxes. We protect the
> >document so that users can fill in the form. When protected though, the
> >spell check is lost and we are also not able to use any formatting tools
> >such as bold, the ability to change font and size, and use bullets. How can
> >these options be made available for protected forms?
> >
> >Thank You,
> >
> >CEV
> >
>
> For the spell check, you need the macro in
> http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/SpellcheckProtectDoc.htm.
>
> Word's form fields don't support font formatting. The closest you can come to
> that is to insert section breaks before and after a paragraph, and mark the
> section between the breaks as unprotected. To do that, click Tools > Protect
> Document and, in the task pane, select "Filling in forms" and then click the
> "Select sections" link that appears below it. Uncheck the section between the
> breaks.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Jay Freedman
> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all
> may benefit.
>