(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:54 am
Post subject: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? Archived from groups: microsoft>public>powerpoint (more info?)
I'm running PowerPoint on Windows XP SP3, Office 2007 SP1.
I've opened a .PPT file, and would like to save it as a .PPTX. I get a
popup saying the the file contains either a hyperlink OR a binary tag, and
that those will be discarded when the file is saved as a .PPTX. I'd like to
locate the objects that cause this message to appear, and I seem to have some
knowledge gaps to fill.
First of all, I can create a new file, save it as a .PPT, open it, insert a
hyperlink and save it as a .PPTX and the message is _not_ triggered.
Therfore, it would seem to me that not _all_ hyperlinks are discarded when
saving a .PPT file as a .PPTX. If not, then which ones are? Or am I missing
something?
However, I _do_ have a file that always causes the message to occur. I have
removed all the slides but one blank one, and I'm pretty positive that that
slide contains no hyperlinks (using the code shamelessly borrowed from PPTFAQ
- thanks, Steve!). There are no tags (that I can find) either - not on the
presentation, the single slide, or any shapes that I know about. And yet
this message always appears when saving that particular file as a .pptx.
The popup message states that the offending objects will be deleted from the
saved .PPTX file. However (follow closely), if I have open the .PPTX file
that the .PPT was saved as (remember that PowerPoint has said it is going to
delete the offending objects from it), resave it as yet another .PPT, close
it, reopen it, and then try to save *that* file as .PPTX, then I get the
error message again. So apparently PowerPoint did _not_ remove the offedning
objects form the saved file?
So what _really_ triggers that message (go here:
http://screencast.com/t/n4s4dHvvNUs to see a screenshot of what I'm talking
about) and how can I identify in any given file whether that mesage will be
triggered or not?
(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:02 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hi,
I would image things that do not convert to html or xml. Like charts or
anything embedded. If you go to the presentation properties and the the
Contents tab. IS there anything listed there?
--
Regards,
Glen Millar
Microsoft PPT MVP
Please tell us your PowerPoint version
Tutorials and PowerPoint animations at
the original www.pptworkbench.com
glen at pptworkbench dot com
------------------------------------------
"Dave Jenkins" <david.f.jenkins.TakeThisOut@usa.net.(spam-ugh!)> wrote in message
news:61222B63-810C-4DEB-9627-69642EC39064@microsoft.com...
> I'm running PowerPoint on Windows XP SP3, Office 2007 SP1.
>
> I've opened a .PPT file, and would like to save it as a .PPTX. I get a
> popup saying the the file contains either a hyperlink OR a binary tag, and
> that those will be discarded when the file is saved as a .PPTX. I'd like
> to
> locate the objects that cause this message to appear, and I seem to have
> some
> knowledge gaps to fill.
>
> First of all, I can create a new file, save it as a .PPT, open it, insert
> a
> hyperlink and save it as a .PPTX and the message is _not_ triggered.
> Therfore, it would seem to me that not _all_ hyperlinks are discarded when
> saving a .PPT file as a .PPTX. If not, then which ones are? Or am I
> missing
> something?
>
> However, I _do_ have a file that always causes the message to occur. I
> have
> removed all the slides but one blank one, and I'm pretty positive that
> that
> slide contains no hyperlinks (using the code shamelessly borrowed from
> PPTFAQ
> - thanks, Steve!). There are no tags (that I can find) either - not on
> the
> presentation, the single slide, or any shapes that I know about. And yet
> this message always appears when saving that particular file as a .pptx.
>
> The popup message states that the offending objects will be deleted from
> the
> saved .PPTX file. However (follow closely), if I have open the .PPTX file
> that the .PPT was saved as (remember that PowerPoint has said it is going
> to
> delete the offending objects from it), resave it as yet another .PPT,
> close
> it, reopen it, and then try to save *that* file as .PPTX, then I get the
> error message again. So apparently PowerPoint did _not_ remove the
> offedning
> objects form the saved file?
>
> So what _really_ triggers that message (go here:
> http://screencast.com/t/n4s4dHvvNUs to see a screenshot of what I'm
> talking
> about) and how can I identify in any given file whether that mesage will
> be
> triggered or not?
>
> --
> Dave Jenkins
> K5KX
(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:02 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Glen Millar" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would image things that do not convert to html or xml. Like charts or
> anything embedded. If you go to the presentation properties and the the
> Contents tab. IS there anything listed there?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Glen Millar
> Microsoft PPT MVP
Hi Glen:
Here's a screenshot of the contents of the Properties -> Contents [tab]:
If I create a totally new pres file, blank presentation, I don't have this
issue. I thought it might be becuase I was using a custom slide master for
my test case, so I subsituted a slide master from a plain vanilla defautl
blank pres. into my test case file, and deleted the old slide master. The
file still yields up the error message when I save as .PPTX. (Actually, as I
reread this, could slide master incompatibilities be the cause of all this?
I'll do some more tests ...)
I can _see_ no shapes in the lone remaining slide, but I'll cobble together
some code or do some debugger work to see if there are any. But I don't
think there are.
Any other suggestion? Or do you perhaps see seomthing significant in the
referenced screenshot?
Thanks.
> "Dave Jenkins" <david.f.jenkins RemoveThis @usa.net.(spam-ugh!)> wrote in message
> news:61222B63-810C-4DEB-9627-69642EC39064@microsoft.com...
> > I'm running PowerPoint on Windows XP SP3, Office 2007 SP1.
> >
> > I've opened a .PPT file, and would like to save it as a .PPTX. I get a
> > popup saying the the file contains either a hyperlink OR a binary tag, and
> > that those will be discarded when the file is saved as a .PPTX. I'd like
> > to
> > locate the objects that cause this message to appear, and I seem to have
> > some
> > knowledge gaps to fill.
> >
> > First of all, I can create a new file, save it as a .PPT, open it, insert
> > a
> > hyperlink and save it as a .PPTX and the message is _not_ triggered.
> > Therfore, it would seem to me that not _all_ hyperlinks are discarded when
> > saving a .PPT file as a .PPTX. If not, then which ones are? Or am I
> > missing
> > something?
> >
> > However, I _do_ have a file that always causes the message to occur. I
> > have
> > removed all the slides but one blank one, and I'm pretty positive that
> > that
> > slide contains no hyperlinks (using the code shamelessly borrowed from
> > PPTFAQ
> > - thanks, Steve!). There are no tags (that I can find) either - not on
> > the
> > presentation, the single slide, or any shapes that I know about. And yet
> > this message always appears when saving that particular file as a .pptx.
> >
> > The popup message states that the offending objects will be deleted from
> > the
> > saved .PPTX file. However (follow closely), if I have open the .PPTX file
> > that the .PPT was saved as (remember that PowerPoint has said it is going
> > to
> > delete the offending objects from it), resave it as yet another .PPT,
> > close
> > it, reopen it, and then try to save *that* file as .PPTX, then I get the
> > error message again. So apparently PowerPoint did _not_ remove the
> > offedning
> > objects form the saved file?
> >
> > So what _really_ triggers that message (go here:
> > http://screencast.com/t/n4s4dHvvNUs to see a screenshot of what I'm
> > talking
> > about) and how can I identify in any given file whether that mesage will
> > be
> > triggered or not?
> >
> > --
> > Dave Jenkins
> > K5KX
>
(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:15 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hi,
Curious and curiouser! Could you perhaps send me an example, please?
--
Regards,
Glen Millar
Microsoft PPT MVP
Please tell us your PowerPoint version
Tutorials and PowerPoint animations at
the original www.pptworkbench.com
glen at pptworkbench dot com
------------------------------------------
"Dave Jenkins" <david.f.jenkins RemoveThis @usa.net.(spam-ugh!)> wrote in message
news:0726F9A8-0891-484F-8DFC-6F538508D753@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Glen Millar" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would image things that do not convert to html or xml. Like charts or
>> anything embedded. If you go to the presentation properties and the the
>> Contents tab. IS there anything listed there?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>> Glen Millar
>> Microsoft PPT MVP
>
>
> Hi Glen:
>
> Here's a screenshot of the contents of the Properties -> Contents [tab]:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/ibgYNNI329 >
> If I create a totally new pres file, blank presentation, I don't have this
> issue. I thought it might be becuase I was using a custom slide master
> for
> my test case, so I subsituted a slide master from a plain vanilla defautl
> blank pres. into my test case file, and deleted the old slide master. The
> file still yields up the error message when I save as .PPTX. (Actually,
> as I
> reread this, could slide master incompatibilities be the cause of all
> this?
> I'll do some more tests ...)
>
> I can _see_ no shapes in the lone remaining slide, but I'll cobble
> together
> some code or do some debugger work to see if there are any. But I don't
> think there are.
>
> Any other suggestion? Or do you perhaps see seomthing significant in the
> referenced screenshot?
>
> Thanks.
>
>> "Dave Jenkins" <david.f.jenkins RemoveThis @usa.net.(spam-ugh!)> wrote in message
>> news:61222B63-810C-4DEB-9627-69642EC39064@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm running PowerPoint on Windows XP SP3, Office 2007 SP1.
>> >
>> > I've opened a .PPT file, and would like to save it as a .PPTX. I get a
>> > popup saying the the file contains either a hyperlink OR a binary tag,
>> > and
>> > that those will be discarded when the file is saved as a .PPTX. I'd
>> > like
>> > to
>> > locate the objects that cause this message to appear, and I seem to
>> > have
>> > some
>> > knowledge gaps to fill.
>> >
>> > First of all, I can create a new file, save it as a .PPT, open it,
>> > insert
>> > a
>> > hyperlink and save it as a .PPTX and the message is _not_ triggered.
>> > Therfore, it would seem to me that not _all_ hyperlinks are discarded
>> > when
>> > saving a .PPT file as a .PPTX. If not, then which ones are? Or am I
>> > missing
>> > something?
>> >
>> > However, I _do_ have a file that always causes the message to occur. I
>> > have
>> > removed all the slides but one blank one, and I'm pretty positive that
>> > that
>> > slide contains no hyperlinks (using the code shamelessly borrowed from
>> > PPTFAQ
>> > - thanks, Steve!). There are no tags (that I can find) either - not on
>> > the
>> > presentation, the single slide, or any shapes that I know about. And
>> > yet
>> > this message always appears when saving that particular file as a
>> > .pptx.
>> >
>> > The popup message states that the offending objects will be deleted
>> > from
>> > the
>> > saved .PPTX file. However (follow closely), if I have open the .PPTX
>> > file
>> > that the .PPT was saved as (remember that PowerPoint has said it is
>> > going
>> > to
>> > delete the offending objects from it), resave it as yet another .PPT,
>> > close
>> > it, reopen it, and then try to save *that* file as .PPTX, then I get
>> > the
>> > error message again. So apparently PowerPoint did _not_ remove the
>> > offedning
>> > objects form the saved file?
>> >
>> > So what _really_ triggers that message (go here:
>> > http://screencast.com/t/n4s4dHvvNUs to see a screenshot of what I'm
>> > talking
>> > about) and how can I identify in any given file whether that mesage
>> > will
>> > be
>> > triggered or not?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dave Jenkins
>> > K5KX
>>
(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:15 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:15 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hi Dave
Run:
MsgBox ActivePresentation.Tags.Count
You will, I guess, find that there are tags.
Binary Tags were supported in 2003 and could be used by third party programs
or Add Ins to incorporate data in files. This is no longer supported in 2007
hence the message?
When you save as a pptx open it and resave back as a ppt the offending tags
should be stripped and you should see a reduction in the count?
--
> Take a look at this test file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ezcj9a9abnh >
> --
> Dave Jenkins
> K5KX
>
>
> "Glen Millar" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Curious and curiouser! Could you perhaps send me an example, please?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> > Glen Millar
> > Microsoft PPT MVP
>
> [snip]
(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:15 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
In article <0F528807-9361-4AF4-A1CA-31D65726A978.RemoveThis@microsoft.com>, Dave Jenkins
wrote:
> Take a look at this test file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ezcj9a9abnh
Worth a thousand words. <g>
If you open that and look at the PRESENTATION's .Tags.Count, you'll get 6.
If you write a little code to delete them all, you'll delete YOUR tags but 3
will still be left.
Open the untouched pres in 2003 and look at the pres.xml file in the Script
Editor and you'll see this
Delete the ones listed as binary, let it update when you close the script
editor, save as PPT. NOW when you open in 2007 and save as PPTX, you get no
backchat.
So the questions are:
- Where did the mystery tags come from? (something to do with Mac, apparently)
- And how do we squeeze 'em out of the file?
-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:15 pm
Post subject: Re: How can I find "binary tags" in a .PPT file using PPT 2007? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hi John:
Progress! Yes, my sample file contains some presentation tags - 3 of 'em
that are automatically inserted in all of our pres. files that are opened
under control of our macros. However, following your MsgBox suggestion
revealed that were 5 of them! Always before, I had just looked at those tags
(using PPT Tools "Tell me about this object [the presentation]" function
(a.k.a. "Miss Piggy") and it showed the three that I expected to be there and
which always survived the save from .PPT into .PPTX.
However! When I ran a little snippet of code in debug, and examined the
*names* of each of the 5 tags - lo and behold! Two of them had a blank
string for the tag name (and an empty value). It was these two tags which
were causing the conversion error message to appear. And since these two had
blank names, they were essentially invisible in PPT Tools without actually
cursoring through the tags display, in which case you might be able to sanp
to the fact that there were some anamolous tags in the collection.
I have no idea how those two tags got into the file -- its provenance is
murky.
Many thanks for your suggestion, John -- made things easy from that point on!
--
Dave Jenkins
K5KX
"John Wilson" wrote:
> Hi Dave
>
> Run:
> MsgBox ActivePresentation.Tags.Count
>
> You will, I guess, find that there are tags.
>
> Binary Tags were supported in 2003 and could be used by third party programs
> or Add Ins to incorporate data in files. This is no longer supported in 2007
> hence the message?
>
> When you save as a pptx open it and resave back as a ppt the offending tags
> should be stripped and you should see a reduction in the count?
> --
>
> Amazing PPT Hints, Tips and Tutorials
>
> http://www.pptalchemy.co.uk/powerpoint_hints_and_tips_tutorials.html >
> email john AT technologytrish.co.uk
>
>
> "Dave Jenkins" wrote:
>
> > Take a look at this test file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ezcj9a9abnh > >
> > --
> > Dave Jenkins
> > K5KX
> >
> >
> > "Glen Millar" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Curious and curiouser! Could you perhaps send me an example, please?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Glen Millar
> > > Microsoft PPT MVP
> >
> > [snip]
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