Can one eliminate English (US) from Word?

External Since: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 17

When the AutoCorrect entry did not work, I initially checked TOOLS | LANGUAGE
| SET LANGUAGE and found that it had changed to English (US). Then I checked
the TOOLS | AUTOCORREECT OPTIONS, and that too was switched to English (US).
I've always checked both when this has happened, sometimes the AuotCorrect
first, and they are always in sync (sometimes I've checked both when
everything seems OK just to make sure they are both the same). It seems to
me that when one changes, so too does the other. The one thing I have not
eliminted is that some key stokes I use are making this switch. I use quite
a lot of shortcut keys (using Symbol to set them) to select special
characters I need, which all involved ALT plus some other character. For
example ALT+s gives me an 's' with an acute accent over it, or ALT+t gives me
a 't' with a dot under it. So I sometimes wonder if my sloppy typing is the
cause of this language shift, but so far I haven't managed to re-create it.

I suppose the logical option would be to re-format my HDD and load
eveerthing back on and see if this problem persists. But ...

Thanks,

Robert

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

> While I appreciate that it is a problem, it is not an inherent problem in
> Word 2003, but something peculiar to your installation. If this was a
> formatted autocorrect then check what the formatting of the autocorrect is.
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
 > My web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com</font" target="_blank">www.gmayor.com</font</a>>
 > Word MVP web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://word.mvps.org</font" target="_blank">http://word.mvps.org</font</a>>
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
>
>
> Sagara wrote:
 > > Caught in the act! This morning, working on a new doc (checked that
 > > all was English (UK) first), by the second para Word had changed to
 > > English (US) without me leaving the doc or pasting anything in. I
 > > only noticed when an AutoCorrect entry did not work (it did in the
 > > previous para). So it is Word having its own innate 'American bias'
 > > that is the problem. It seems that the only solutions are to make a
 > > macro (which I have never done), or switch to a less 'biased' word
 > > processor (if there an alternative left!). However, this is clearly
 > > a Microsoft problem that as far as I'm aware did not exist in
 > > previous versions I've used (all versions from Word 2). Perhaps an
 > > alternative would be to go back to Word 2000 until Microsoft sort
 > > this out.
 > >
 > > Thanks,
 > >
 > > Robert
 > >
 > > "Graham Mayor" wrote:
 > >
 > >> The macros will at least reset it when you open another document.
 > >>
 > >> --
 > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
 > >>
 > >> My web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com</font" target="_blank">www.gmayor.com</font</a>>
 > >> Word MVP web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://word.mvps.org</font" target="_blank">http://word.mvps.org</font</a>>
 > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> Sagara wrote:
 > >>> Thanks. The Update parameter is not selected, so it can't be this.
 > >>> I'll get back to you on the macro! Suzanne mentioned that it might
 > >>> be switching when I paste from another doc, or as you mentioned,
 > >>> from the web, etc. so I'm also waiting to see if this is the cause.
 > >>>
 > >>> Thanks,
 > >>>
 > >>> Robert
 > >>>
 > >>> "Graham Mayor" wrote:
 > >>>
 > >>>> Select Normal in the style list. Right click and select 'modify'.
 > >>>> If you have any difficulty with the macros mail me via the link on
 > >>>> my web site.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> --
 > >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > >>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
 > >>>>
 > >>>> My web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com</font" target="_blank">www.gmayor.com</font</a>>
 > >>>> Word MVP web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://word.mvps.org</font" target="_blank">http://word.mvps.org</font</a>>
 > >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Sagara wrote:
 > >>>>> I've checked the TOOLS | Language | ... Detect Language
 > >>>>> Automatically box is not ticked, but with Format | Styles and
 > >>>>> Formatting, all that happens is a pane opens on the righthand side
 > >>>>> which just lists Footer, Heading 1, Heading 2 etc. Can't see
 > >>>>> anything to select?
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> I have never used a macro before, but I've printed out the info on
 > >>>>> 'Idiot's Guide to Installing Macros' from your webpage - so I'll
 > >>>>> give it a try!!!
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> Thanks,
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> Robert
 > >>>>> "Graham Mayor" wrote:
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>> It is possibly being switched by text from third parties eg web
 > >>>>>> sites. Check that tools > language > set language > automatically
 > >>>>>> detect language is unselected and that the automatically update
 > >>>>>> parameter is not selected in the format > style dialog.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Note that Word 2003 has a nasty habit of changing some of your
 > >>>>>> preferences all by itself. Where this is a problem the user
 > >>>>>> preferences need to be reinforced by autonew and autoopen macros.
 > >>>>>> Add the following code to each of an autonew and an autoopen
 > >>>>>> macro in normal.dot so that each document will at least start
 > >>>>>> with the required settings:
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Selection.LanguageID = wdEnglishUK
 > >>>>>> Application.CheckLanguage = False
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm</font</a>>
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> --
 > >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > >>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> My web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com</font" target="_blank">www.gmayor.com</font</a>>
 > >>>>>> Word MVP web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://word.mvps.org</font" target="_blank">http://word.mvps.org</font</a>>
 > >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Sagara wrote:
 > >>>>>>> Word 2003 keeps switching from my default language, English
 > >>>>>>> (UK), to Englsih (US). I mentioned this problem last year, but
 > >>>>>>> despite having made all the recommended changes for this
 > >>>>>>> problem by Suzanne - at
 > >>>>>>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm" target="_blank">http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm</a> - Word
 > >>>>>>> 2003 still occasionally changes to English (US) from the default
 > >>>>>>> English (UK).
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> I only notice this when doing AutoCorrect entries, and find they
 > >>>>>>> do not work because the default language has switched to English
 > >>>>>>> (US), or when Spell Check is 'misspelling' certain words. It is
 > >>>>>>> a real wind-up when I realize that the many Autocorrect enteries
 > >>>>>>> I've imputted that day are not available to English (UK) because
 > >>>>>>> Word has a mind of its own (seems to be an American mind!).
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> I also notice that although in both XP and in the Office
 > >>>>>>> Language Settings the only language that should be available to
 > >>>>>>> me is English (UK), in Word under TOOLS | LANGUAGE | SET
 > >>>>>>> LANGUAGE | MARK SELECTED TEXT LANGUAGE, English (US) is still
 > >>>>>>> available with English (UK). As I've only selected English (UK)
 > >>>>>>> to be available in both XP and Word, why is English (US)
 > >>>>>>> available at all? How can I completely eliminate English (US)
 > >>>>>>> so that it is completely unavailable?
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> Is there something I can do in the registry? I've looked in
 > >>>>>>> HKEY_Current_User | Software | Microsoft | Office | 11.0 |
 > >>>>>>> Language Resources, and under 1003 (English [US]) the Value data
 > >>>>>>> is 'ExplicitOff', and under 2057 (English [UK]) the Value data
 > >>>>>>> is 'On'. Given this, how can it change of its own? Is there a
 > >>>>>>> key stroke that I might accidently make that can make this
 > >>>>>>> change?
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> Thanks,
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> Robert
>
>
>

External Since: Sep 26, 2003 Posts: 19458

If you inadvertently created a formatted AutoCorrect entry or an AutoText
entry while the language at the insertion point was English (US), then the
entry will be tagged with that language. When you insert the entry, the
language at the insertion point (and thereafter) will be changed. You need
to scrutinize all your AutoText and formatted AutoCorrect entries and make
sure that they are tagged as English (UK). Just to clarify, ordinary
AutoCorrect entries are saved in specific .acl files depending on language
and are available to all Office programs that use AutoCorrect. But formatted
AutoCorrect entries are saved in Normal.dot, and their language is part of
their formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://word.mvps.org" target="_blank">http://word.mvps.org</a>
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"Sagara" <Sagara.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:10168CFC-6145-418F-B62A-2C3021A0DECF@microsoft.com...
> When the AutoCorrect entry did not work, I initially checked TOOLS |
LANGUAGE
> | SET LANGUAGE and found that it had changed to English (US). Then I
checked
> the TOOLS | AUTOCORREECT OPTIONS, and that too was switched to English
(US).
> I've always checked both when this has happened, sometimes the
AuotCorrect
> first, and they are always in sync (sometimes I've checked both when
> everything seems OK just to make sure they are both the same). It seems
to
> me that when one changes, so too does the other. The one thing I have not
> eliminted is that some key stokes I use are making this switch. I use
quite
> a lot of shortcut keys (using Symbol to set them) to select special
> characters I need, which all involved ALT plus some other character. For
> example ALT+s gives me an 's' with an acute accent over it, or ALT+t gives
me
> a 't' with a dot under it. So I sometimes wonder if my sloppy typing is
the
> cause of this language shift, but so far I haven't managed to re-create
it.
>
> I suppose the logical option would be to re-format my HDD and load
> eveerthing back on and see if this problem persists. But ...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> "Graham Mayor" wrote:
>
 > > While I appreciate that it is a problem, it is not an inherent problem
in
 > > Word 2003, but something peculiar to your installation. If this was a
 > > formatted autocorrect then check what the formatting of the autocorrect
is.
 > >
 > > --
 > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
 > >
 > > My web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com</font" target="_blank">www.gmayor.com</font</a>>
 > > Word MVP web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://word.mvps.org</font" target="_blank">http://word.mvps.org</font</a>>
 > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Sagara wrote:
 > > > Caught in the act! This morning, working on a new doc (checked that
 > > > all was English (UK) first), by the second para Word had changed to
 > > > English (US) without me leaving the doc or pasting anything in. I
 > > > only noticed when an AutoCorrect entry did not work (it did in the
 > > > previous para). So it is Word having its own innate 'American bias'
 > > > that is the problem. It seems that the only solutions are to make a
 > > > macro (which I have never done), or switch to a less 'biased' word
 > > > processor (if there an alternative left!). However, this is clearly
 > > > a Microsoft problem that as far as I'm aware did not exist in
 > > > previous versions I've used (all versions from Word 2). Perhaps an
 > > > alternative would be to go back to Word 2000 until Microsoft sort
 > > > this out.
 > > >
 > > > Thanks,
 > > >
 > > > Robert
 > > >
 > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote:
 > > >
 > > >> The macros will at least reset it when you open another document.
 > > >>
 > > >> --
 > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > > >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
 > > >>
 > > >> My web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com</font" target="_blank">www.gmayor.com</font</a>>
 > > >> Word MVP web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://word.mvps.org</font" target="_blank">http://word.mvps.org</font</a>>
 > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > > >>
 > > >>
 > > >>
 > > >> Sagara wrote:
 > > >>> Thanks. The Update parameter is not selected, so it can't be this.
 > > >>> I'll get back to you on the macro! Suzanne mentioned that it might
 > > >>> be switching when I paste from another doc, or as you mentioned,
 > > >>> from the web, etc. so I'm also waiting to see if this is the cause.
 > > >>>
 > > >>> Thanks,
 > > >>>
 > > >>> Robert
 > > >>>
 > > >>> "Graham Mayor" wrote:
 > > >>>
 > > >>>> Select Normal in the style list. Right click and select 'modify'.
 > > >>>> If you have any difficulty with the macros mail me via the link on
 > > >>>> my web site.
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> --
 > > >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > > >>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> My web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com</font" target="_blank">www.gmayor.com</font</a>>
 > > >>>> Word MVP web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://word.mvps.org</font" target="_blank">http://word.mvps.org</font</a>>
 > > >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> Sagara wrote:
 > > >>>>> I've checked the TOOLS | Language | ... Detect Language
 > > >>>>> Automatically box is not ticked, but with Format | Styles and
 > > >>>>> Formatting, all that happens is a pane opens on the righthand side
 > > >>>>> which just lists Footer, Heading 1, Heading 2 etc. Can't see
 > > >>>>> anything to select?
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> I have never used a macro before, but I've printed out the info on
 > > >>>>> 'Idiot's Guide to Installing Macros' from your webpage - so I'll
 > > >>>>> give it a try!!!
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> Thanks,
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> Robert
 > > >>>>> "Graham Mayor" wrote:
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>>> It is possibly being switched by text from third parties eg web
 > > >>>>>> sites. Check that tools > language > set language > automatically
 > > >>>>>> detect language is unselected and that the automatically update
 > > >>>>>> parameter is not selected in the format > style dialog.
 > > >>>>>>
 > > >>>>>> Note that Word 2003 has a nasty habit of changing some of your
 > > >>>>>> preferences all by itself. Where this is a problem the user
 > > >>>>>> preferences need to be reinforced by autonew and autoopen macros.
 > > >>>>>> Add the following code to each of an autonew and an autoopen
 > > >>>>>> macro in normal.dot so that each document will at least start
 > > >>>>>> with the required settings:
 > > >>>>>>
 > > >>>>>> Selection.LanguageID = wdEnglishUK
 > > >>>>>> Application.CheckLanguage = False
 > > >>>>>>
 > > >>>>>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm</font</a>>
 > > >>>>>>
 > > >>>>>> --
 > > >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > > >>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
 > > >>>>>>
 > > >>>>>> My web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gmayor.com</font" target="_blank">www.gmayor.com</font</a>>
 > > >>>>>> Word MVP web site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://word.mvps.org</font" target="_blank">http://word.mvps.org</font</a>>
 > > >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 > > >>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>
 > > >>>>>> Sagara wrote:
 > > >>>>>>> Word 2003 keeps switching from my default language, English
 > > >>>>>>> (UK), to Englsih (US). I mentioned this problem last year, but
 > > >>>>>>> despite having made all the recommended changes for this
 > > >>>>>>> problem by Suzanne - at
 > > >>>>>>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm" target="_blank">http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm</a> - Word
 > > >>>>>>> 2003 still occasionally changes to English (US) from the default
 > > >>>>>>> English (UK).
 > > >>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>> I only notice this when doing AutoCorrect entries, and find they
 > > >>>>>>> do not work because the default language has switched to English
 > > >>>>>>> (US), or when Spell Check is 'misspelling' certain words. It is
 > > >>>>>>> a real wind-up when I realize that the many Autocorrect enteries
 > > >>>>>>> I've imputted that day are not available to English (UK) because
 > > >>>>>>> Word has a mind of its own (seems to be an American mind!).
 > > >>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>> I also notice that although in both XP and in the Office
 > > >>>>>>> Language Settings the only language that should be available to
 > > >>>>>>> me is English (UK), in Word under TOOLS | LANGUAGE | SET
 > > >>>>>>> LANGUAGE | MARK SELECTED TEXT LANGUAGE, English (US) is still
 > > >>>>>>> available with English (UK). As I've only selected English (UK)
 > > >>>>>>> to be available in both XP and Word, why is English (US)
 > > >>>>>>> available at all? How can I completely eliminate English (US)
 > > >>>>>>> so that it is completely unavailable?
 > > >>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>> Is there something I can do in the registry? I've looked in
 > > >>>>>>> HKEY_Current_User | Software | Microsoft | Office | 11.0 |
 > > >>>>>>> Language Resources, and under 1003 (English [US]) the Value data
 > > >>>>>>> is 'ExplicitOff', and under 2057 (English [UK]) the Value data
 > > >>>>>>> is 'On'. Given this, how can it change of its own? Is there a
 > > >>>>>>> key stroke that I might accidently make that can make this
 > > >>>>>>> change?
 > > >>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>> Thanks,
 > > >>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>> Robert
 > >
 > >
 > >