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Xanbaby

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Since: May 16, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:19 pm
Post subject: Variable Page width
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>word>formatting>longdocs (more info?)

Hi,

I'm using Word 2003, and have the following setup: Page1 of a template has
standard page with settigns, and a blank header and footer. Dependant on
variables, 2 further documents can be called in (effectively using an INSERT
command) embedded in IF commands as part of a population process. The
second document has the same page width, header & footer requirements, and
works fine, the third document has a unique header & footer, and an expanded
page width.

Using page breaks, I can successfully get the 3rd page width to transfer
into the final document, however the wider page width does not apply itself
to the header & footer, which means the header & footer are not aligning
with the remainder of this page.

It is impractical to set the 1st document with a wider heading and muck
around with tabs & hanging indents, as this will render all documents as
difficult to work with for users, also, it is highly likely I will need to
insert a document after this, so I will need a way to maintain all formating
(including headers & footers) in the inserted documents at their unique
settigns.

Any assistance on this would be greatly appreciated, please contact me if
you require any further clarification.
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DeanH

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:19 pm
Post subject: RE: Variable Page width [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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My first thought is not to use Page Breaks but Section Breaks, with a section
break you can then have differing margins and Headers&Footers.
Hope this helps
DeanH

"Xanbaby" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using Word 2003, and have the following setup: Page1 of a template has
> standard page with settigns, and a blank header and footer. Dependant on
> variables, 2 further documents can be called in (effectively using an INSERT
> command) embedded in IF commands as part of a population process. The
> second document has the same page width, header & footer requirements, and
> works fine, the third document has a unique header & footer, and an expanded
> page width.
>
> Using page breaks, I can successfully get the 3rd page width to transfer
> into the final document, however the wider page width does not apply itself
> to the header & footer, which means the header & footer are not aligning
> with the remainder of this page.
>
> It is impractical to set the 1st document with a wider heading and muck
> around with tabs & hanging indents, as this will render all documents as
> difficult to work with for users, also, it is highly likely I will need to
> insert a document after this, so I will need a way to maintain all formating
> (including headers & footers) in the inserted documents at their unique
> settigns.
>
> Any assistance on this would be greatly appreciated, please contact me if
> you require any further clarification.
>
>
>
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Xanbaby

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:35 am
Post subject: Re: Variable Page width [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks Dean,

Sorry, bad phrasing, I had used section breaks. I've just discovered that I
can pull the Hanging Indents outside of the page width, which has sorted my
issue. Now all I have to do is completely reconfigure the formatting in an
already fiddly document! But at least it works.

Thanks again.

"DeanH" <DeanH DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CA6BCBB1-7374-43A8-8763-63C331927FA9@microsoft.com...
> My first thought is not to use Page Breaks but Section Breaks, with a
> section
> break you can then have differing margins and Headers&Footers.
> Hope this helps
> DeanH
>
> "Xanbaby" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm using Word 2003, and have the following setup: Page1 of a template
>> has
>> standard page with settigns, and a blank header and footer. Dependant on
>> variables, 2 further documents can be called in (effectively using an
>> INSERT
>> command) embedded in IF commands as part of a population process. The
>> second document has the same page width, header & footer requirements,
>> and
>> works fine, the third document has a unique header & footer, and an
>> expanded
>> page width.
>>
>> Using page breaks, I can successfully get the 3rd page width to transfer
>> into the final document, however the wider page width does not apply
>> itself
>> to the header & footer, which means the header & footer are not aligning
>> with the remainder of this page.
>>
>> It is impractical to set the 1st document with a wider heading and muck
>> around with tabs & hanging indents, as this will render all documents as
>> difficult to work with for users, also, it is highly likely I will need
>> to
>> insert a document after this, so I will need a way to maintain all
>> formating
>> (including headers & footers) in the inserted documents at their unique
>> settigns.
>>
>> Any assistance on this would be greatly appreciated, please contact me if
>> you require any further clarification.
>>
>>
>>
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DeanH

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:35 am
Post subject: Re: Variable Page width [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Glad you got this to work for you.
DeanH

"Xanbaby" wrote:

> Thanks Dean,
>
> Sorry, bad phrasing, I had used section breaks. I've just discovered that I
> can pull the Hanging Indents outside of the page width, which has sorted my
> issue. Now all I have to do is completely reconfigure the formatting in an
> already fiddly document! But at least it works.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> "DeanH" <DeanH.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CA6BCBB1-7374-43A8-8763-63C331927FA9@microsoft.com...
> > My first thought is not to use Page Breaks but Section Breaks, with a
> > section
> > break you can then have differing margins and Headers&Footers.
> > Hope this helps
> > DeanH
> >
> > "Xanbaby" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm using Word 2003, and have the following setup: Page1 of a template
> >> has
> >> standard page with settigns, and a blank header and footer. Dependant on
> >> variables, 2 further documents can be called in (effectively using an
> >> INSERT
> >> command) embedded in IF commands as part of a population process. The
> >> second document has the same page width, header & footer requirements,
> >> and
> >> works fine, the third document has a unique header & footer, and an
> >> expanded
> >> page width.
> >>
> >> Using page breaks, I can successfully get the 3rd page width to transfer
> >> into the final document, however the wider page width does not apply
> >> itself
> >> to the header & footer, which means the header & footer are not aligning
> >> with the remainder of this page.
> >>
> >> It is impractical to set the 1st document with a wider heading and muck
> >> around with tabs & hanging indents, as this will render all documents as
> >> difficult to work with for users, also, it is highly likely I will need
> >> to
> >> insert a document after this, so I will need a way to maintain all
> >> formating
> >> (including headers & footers) in the inserted documents at their unique
> >> settigns.
> >>
> >> Any assistance on this would be greatly appreciated, please contact me if
> >> you require any further clarification.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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sandypeter111

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:30 pm
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Variable Page width




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Suzanne S. Barnhill

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:30 pm
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What about it?

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"sandypeter111" <sandypeter111.363aad4.RemoveThis@officefrustration.com> wrote in
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> Variable Page width
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>
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> sandypeter111
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Xanbaby

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:05 am
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Small update, I have discovered the best way to do this is as follows:

Page 1, place a section break, then a page break, followed by an insert page
2, and also placing a section break at the bottom of each inserted document.
Once the documents is populated, you will get a section break followed by a
page break followed by another section break, which means that each inserted
document retains it's own formatting, removing the need for difficult to
work with hanging indents.

Where I was going wrong was trying to use a section break (next page), which
I would have thought would work the same as a section break followed by a
page break, however this never worked correctly.

Many thanks for the assistance.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill RemoveThis @mvps.org> wrote in message
news:ehLrfQsRJHA.5568@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> What about it?
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "sandypeter111" <sandypeter111.363aad4 RemoveThis @officefrustration.com> wrote in
> message news:sandypeter111.363aad4@officefrustration.com...
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>> Variable Page width
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> sandypeter111
>>
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