Removing Header and Footer Sections

To clarify, when I click on the top and bottom of each page, a light blue
tab will appear and "Header -Section 1-", "Footer -Section 1-" will be
written in these light blue tabs. Can I just get rid of these header and
footer areas completely as opposed to just not having any text or objects in
them (having the sections blank). Or are Word 2007 documents automatically
formatted to include header and footer sections and the best I can do is
reduce the size of these sections?

It seems to me there would be alot of instances where a person would create
a Word document that did not require headers or footers. So why can't these
sections just be removed from the document, if not required?

You cannot remove the header and footer. They are part of any document and
really useful for different purposes such as holding content to be repeated
on every page (e.g. logo or page number). This is _not_ new in Word 2007.

If you wish, you can try to set the top and bottom margins to 0 (zero).
However, your printer will most likely not be able to print to the edge of
the paper anyway so most likely a message will tell you that the value is not
OK – if you click “Fix� in the message, you find the smallest amount you
printer can handle). A document with text from the very top to the very
bottom would not look very well.

If your problem is that you do not want the header/footer areas to take up
room on the screen in Print Layout view, simply position the cursor on top
edge of a page. Double-click when it looks like a two-headed arrow. This will
collapse the header/footer of all pages (actually, double-clicking this way
toggles the setting Office button > Word Options > Display category > Show
white space between pages in Print Layout view).

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Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word)
DocTools - Denmark
www.thedoctools.com
Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word


"Gary" wrote:

> To clarify, when I click on the top and bottom of each page, a light blue
> tab will appear and "Header -Section 1-", "Footer -Section 1-" will be
> written in these light blue tabs. Can I just get rid of these header and
> footer areas completely as opposed to just not having any text or objects in
> them (having the sections blank). Or are Word 2007 documents automatically
> formatted to include header and footer sections and the best I can do is
> reduce the size of these sections?
>
> It seems to me there would be alot of instances where a person would create
> a Word document that did not require headers or footers. So why can't these
> sections just be removed from the document, if not required?
>
>
>

OK, I think I get it now. I had Word 2000 before I upgraded to Word 2007 a
few months ago and I don't remember seeing header and footer sections
automatically inserted into the document which became visible when you
clicked on the top or bottom of the page. Seemed to be something new, so
maybe it was introduced with Word 2003.

At any rate, I think I solved my dilemma by clicking the header and footer
sections and changing the "Header from Top" and "Footer from Bottom" height
to 0".

Doing this seems to work for me. Thanks for the help.

No, Word has always had headers and footers, but until Word 2007 you
couldn't just double-click to access the header or footer space before text
had been entered: you had to use View | Header and Footer (somewhat
unintuitive since there was not yet any header/footer text to "view"). But
they always inherently existed by virtue of there being header and footer
margins, and when you did "view" the header or footer, it was surrounded by
a dotted line indicating the space reserved for it. The display in Word 2007
is different, but the concept is still exactly the same.

Interestingly, if I open/create a blank document in Word 2007, double-click
in the header area, double-click back in the document body, and then click
the X to close, Word asks if I want to save the document. Despite the fact
that the Undo arrow is not enabled, Word seems to feel that something has
happened to change the document, perhaps that a header has been "created."

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Gary" <xxx.TakeThisOut@yyy.com> wrote in message
news:UZKdncJ0Bq4IPULVnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> OK, I think I get it now. I had Word 2000 before I upgraded to Word 2007
> a few months ago and I don't remember seeing header and footer sections
> automatically inserted into the document which became visible when you
> clicked on the top or bottom of the page. Seemed to be something new, so
> maybe it was introduced with Word 2003.
>
> At any rate, I think I solved my dilemma by clicking the header and footer
> sections and changing the "Header from Top" and "Footer from Bottom"
> height to 0".
>
> Doing this seems to work for me. Thanks for the help.
>
>

Suzanne,
About the changed document: I had not noticed that before. I just made a few
macro lines to check the header before and after entering the header for the
first time. In both situations, each of the three header types exists and
contains a single paragraph mark - no differences were found.

--
Regards
Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word)
DocTools - Denmark
www.thedoctools.com
Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> No, Word has always had headers and footers, but until Word 2007 you
> couldn't just double-click to access the header or footer space before text
> had been entered: you had to use View | Header and Footer (somewhat
> unintuitive since there was not yet any header/footer text to "view"). But
> they always inherently existed by virtue of there being header and footer
> margins, and when you did "view" the header or footer, it was surrounded by
> a dotted line indicating the space reserved for it. The display in Word 2007
> is different, but the concept is still exactly the same.
>
> Interestingly, if I open/create a blank document in Word 2007, double-click
> in the header area, double-click back in the document body, and then click
> the X to close, Word asks if I want to save the document. Despite the fact
> that the Undo arrow is not enabled, Word seems to feel that something has
> happened to change the document, perhaps that a header has been "created."
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "Gary" <xxx RemoveThis @yyy.com> wrote in message
> news:UZKdncJ0Bq4IPULVnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > OK, I think I get it now. I had Word 2000 before I upgraded to Word 2007
> > a few months ago and I don't remember seeing header and footer sections
> > automatically inserted into the document which became visible when you
> > clicked on the top or bottom of the page. Seemed to be something new, so
> > maybe it was introduced with Word 2003.
> >
> > At any rate, I think I solved my dilemma by clicking the header and footer
> > sections and changing the "Header from Top" and "Footer from Bottom"
> > height to 0".
> >
> > Doing this seems to work for me. Thanks for the help.
> >
> >
>
>
>

I'm not surprised. I just wonder what Word is registering as a change.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Lene Fredborg" <lf DeleteThis @REMOVETHISthedoctools.com> wrote in message
news:36C9CCE8-1E3C-41E5-86F7-EBFD0DC1F416@microsoft.com...
> Suzanne,
> About the changed document: I had not noticed that before. I just made a
> few
> macro lines to check the header before and after entering the header for
> the
> first time. In both situations, each of the three header types exists and
> contains a single paragraph mark - no differences were found.
>
> --
> Regards
> Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word)
> DocTools - Denmark
> www.thedoctools.com
> Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>
>> No, Word has always had headers and footers, but until Word 2007 you
>> couldn't just double-click to access the header or footer space before
>> text
>> had been entered: you had to use View | Header and Footer (somewhat
>> unintuitive since there was not yet any header/footer text to "view").
>> But
>> they always inherently existed by virtue of there being header and footer
>> margins, and when you did "view" the header or footer, it was surrounded
>> by
>> a dotted line indicating the space reserved for it. The display in Word
>> 2007
>> is different, but the concept is still exactly the same.
>>
>> Interestingly, if I open/create a blank document in Word 2007,
>> double-click
>> in the header area, double-click back in the document body, and then
>> click
>> the X to close, Word asks if I want to save the document. Despite the
>> fact
>> that the Undo arrow is not enabled, Word seems to feel that something has
>> happened to change the document, perhaps that a header has been
>> "created."
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "Gary" <xxx DeleteThis @yyy.com> wrote in message
>> news:UZKdncJ0Bq4IPULVnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > OK, I think I get it now. I had Word 2000 before I upgraded to Word
>> > 2007
>> > a few months ago and I don't remember seeing header and footer sections
>> > automatically inserted into the document which became visible when you
>> > clicked on the top or bottom of the page. Seemed to be something new,
>> > so
>> > maybe it was introduced with Word 2003.
>> >
>> > At any rate, I think I solved my dilemma by clicking the header and
>> > footer
>> > sections and changing the "Header from Top" and "Footer from Bottom"
>> > height to 0".
>> >
>> > Doing this seems to work for me. Thanks for the help.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>