(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:32 pm
Post subject: Problem with Windows XP FAX Services Archived from groups: microsoft>public>outlook>fax (more info?)
I have a strange problem after installing WinXP FAX services. I am running
XP MCE SP2 on a Dell XPS410 with all security and hotfixes done. I use Trend
Micro Internet Security 2007.
After re-booting, the desktop comes up normally but I can't do anything for
several minutes with a number of applications such as IE6 or Control Panel
Add/Remove Programs. These hang for several minutes. Eventually they will
run. Un-intstalling Fax Services cures the problem.
The FAX service does work just fine once up and running. I have tried auto
answer off and automatic. Having the phone line connected to the modem makes
no difference. I didn't go into Outlook to configure anyhting there since I
do not use Outlook.
Process Explorer doesn't show any activity other System Idle Process during
the hang. Once whatever is hanging is done then I see changes and additions
to the Processes in Process Explorer.
I looked at the Microsoft Knowledge Base, also Bruces Printing Pages and
Slipstick.com but didn't see any comments about this problem. A Google
search didn't come up with similar problems.
(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with Windows XP FAX Services [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Rather a vague, convoluted story. Why did you suspect the Fax Service in the
first place? What made you think uninstalling it would help?
If I were you I'd be looking for more concrete steps to reproduce your
problem, error messages, and Event viewer. Trust me, no one has reported
anything like it, especially in this group, which is for Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.TakeThisOut@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
news:pfSdnQaYpdNeMH_anZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@ptd.net...
>I have a strange problem after installing WinXP FAX services. I am running
>XP MCE SP2 on a Dell XPS410 with all security and hotfixes done. I use
>Trend Micro Internet Security 2007.
>
> After re-booting, the desktop comes up normally but I can't do anything
> for several minutes with a number of applications such as IE6 or Control
> Panel Add/Remove Programs. These hang for several minutes. Eventually they
> will run. Un-intstalling Fax Services cures the problem.
>
> The FAX service does work just fine once up and running. I have tried
> auto answer off and automatic. Having the phone line connected to the
> modem makes no difference. I didn't go into Outlook to configure anyhting
> there since I do not use Outlook.
>
> Process Explorer doesn't show any activity other System Idle Process
> during the hang. Once whatever is hanging is done then I see changes and
> additions to the Processes in Process Explorer.
>
> I looked at the Microsoft Knowledge Base, also Bruces Printing Pages and
> Slipstick.com but didn't see any comments about this problem. A Google
> search didn't come up with similar problems.
>
> Anybody have any ideas?
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Rich
>
>
>
(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with Windows XP FAX Services [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I suspected it because it was the only change I had made. When I remove FAX
services the problem goes away.
There were no error messages but I'll look at the event viewer and logs.
Sorry about posting here. This seems to be a news group with active users.
Thank you.
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5BC011E9-401C-4D88-BF6F-4A74506A0A7A@microsoft.com...
> Rather a vague, convoluted story. Why did you suspect the Fax Service in
> the first place? What made you think uninstalling it would help?
> If I were you I'd be looking for more concrete steps to reproduce your
> problem, error messages, and Event viewer. Trust me, no one has reported
> anything like it, especially in this group, which is for Outlook.
>
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.DeleteThis@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:pfSdnQaYpdNeMH_anZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>I have a strange problem after installing WinXP FAX services. I am running
>>XP MCE SP2 on a Dell XPS410 with all security and hotfixes done. I use
>>Trend Micro Internet Security 2007.
>>
>> After re-booting, the desktop comes up normally but I can't do anything
>> for several minutes with a number of applications such as IE6 or Control
>> Panel Add/Remove Programs. These hang for several minutes. Eventually
>> they will run. Un-intstalling Fax Services cures the problem.
>>
>> The FAX service does work just fine once up and running. I have tried
>> auto answer off and automatic. Having the phone line connected to the
>> modem makes no difference. I didn't go into Outlook to configure anyhting
>> there since I do not use Outlook.
>>
>> Process Explorer doesn't show any activity other System Idle Process
>> during the hang. Once whatever is hanging is done then I see changes and
>> additions to the Processes in Process Explorer.
>>
>> I looked at the Microsoft Knowledge Base, also Bruces Printing Pages and
>> Slipstick.com but didn't see any comments about this problem. A Google
>> search didn't come up with similar problems.
>>
>> Anybody have any ideas?
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>
>
(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with Windows XP FAX Services [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I would post in the XP Fax group. Perhaps someone there has seen it. I would
still post a lot more detail that "it was the only change I made." That
would mean nothing to someone who wasn't watching what you were doing.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.DeleteThis@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ldqdnd0PLJXBfn_anZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@ptd.net...
>I suspected it because it was the only change I had made. When I remove FAX
>services the problem goes away.
>
> There were no error messages but I'll look at the event viewer and logs.
>
> Sorry about posting here. This seems to be a news group with active users.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5BC011E9-401C-4D88-BF6F-4A74506A0A7A@microsoft.com...
>> Rather a vague, convoluted story. Why did you suspect the Fax Service in
>> the first place? What made you think uninstalling it would help?
>> If I were you I'd be looking for more concrete steps to reproduce your
>> problem, error messages, and Event viewer. Trust me, no one has reported
>> anything like it, especially in this group, which is for Outlook.
>>
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.DeleteThis@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:pfSdnQaYpdNeMH_anZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>>I have a strange problem after installing WinXP FAX services. I am
>>>running XP MCE SP2 on a Dell XPS410 with all security and hotfixes done.
>>>I use Trend Micro Internet Security 2007.
>>>
>>> After re-booting, the desktop comes up normally but I can't do anything
>>> for several minutes with a number of applications such as IE6 or Control
>>> Panel Add/Remove Programs. These hang for several minutes. Eventually
>>> they will run. Un-intstalling Fax Services cures the problem.
>>>
>>> The FAX service does work just fine once up and running. I have tried
>>> auto answer off and automatic. Having the phone line connected to the
>>> modem makes no difference. I didn't go into Outlook to configure
>>> anyhting there since I do not use Outlook.
>>>
>>> Process Explorer doesn't show any activity other System Idle Process
>>> during the hang. Once whatever is hanging is done then I see changes and
>>> additions to the Processes in Process Explorer.
>>>
>>> I looked at the Microsoft Knowledge Base, also Bruces Printing Pages
>>> and Slipstick.com but didn't see any comments about this problem. A
>>> Google search didn't come up with similar problems.
>>>
>>> Anybody have any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with Windows XP FAX Services [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
My Internet provider doesnt have an XP Fax group available. I'll do some
more digging. I found a number of error events logged oin the event viewer
to investigate.
Thank you again
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:248E23DA-D46F-497D-95B1-2FB27C9AD2DC@microsoft.com...
>I would post in the XP Fax group. Perhaps someone there has seen it. I
>would still post a lot more detail that "it was the only change I made."
>That would mean nothing to someone who wasn't watching what you were doing.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam DeleteThis @ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:ldqdnd0PLJXBfn_anZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>I suspected it because it was the only change I had made. When I remove
>>FAX services the problem goes away.
>>
>> There were no error messages but I'll look at the event viewer and logs.
>>
>> Sorry about posting here. This seems to be a news group with active
>> users.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5BC011E9-401C-4D88-BF6F-4A74506A0A7A@microsoft.com...
>>> Rather a vague, convoluted story. Why did you suspect the Fax Service in
>>> the first place? What made you think uninstalling it would help?
>>> If I were you I'd be looking for more concrete steps to reproduce your
>>> problem, error messages, and Event viewer. Trust me, no one has reported
>>> anything like it, especially in this group, which is for Outlook.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Russ Valentine
>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam DeleteThis @ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:pfSdnQaYpdNeMH_anZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>>>I have a strange problem after installing WinXP FAX services. I am
>>>>running XP MCE SP2 on a Dell XPS410 with all security and hotfixes done.
>>>>I use Trend Micro Internet Security 2007.
>>>>
>>>> After re-booting, the desktop comes up normally but I can't do
>>>> anything for several minutes with a number of applications such as IE6
>>>> or Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. These hang for several minutes.
>>>> Eventually they will run. Un-intstalling Fax Services cures the
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> The FAX service does work just fine once up and running. I have tried
>>>> auto answer off and automatic. Having the phone line connected to the
>>>> modem makes no difference. I didn't go into Outlook to configure
>>>> anyhting there since I do not use Outlook.
>>>>
>>>> Process Explorer doesn't show any activity other System Idle Process
>>>> during the hang. Once whatever is hanging is done then I see changes
>>>> and additions to the Processes in Process Explorer.
>>>>
>>>> I looked at the Microsoft Knowledge Base, also Bruces Printing Pages
>>>> and Slipstick.com but didn't see any comments about this problem. A
>>>> Google search didn't come up with similar problems.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:25 am
Post subject: Re: Problem with Windows XP FAX Services [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
What does that have to do with your Internet provider?
Use the Microsoft public news server. That's where you're posting, you know.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.RemoveThis@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
news:_bKdnXegHtHgYn_anZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@ptd.net...
> My Internet provider doesnt have an XP Fax group available. I'll do some
> more digging. I found a number of error events logged oin the event viewer
> to investigate.
>
> Thank you again
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:248E23DA-D46F-497D-95B1-2FB27C9AD2DC@microsoft.com...
>>I would post in the XP Fax group. Perhaps someone there has seen it. I
>>would still post a lot more detail that "it was the only change I made."
>>That would mean nothing to someone who wasn't watching what you were
>>doing.
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.RemoveThis@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:ldqdnd0PLJXBfn_anZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>>I suspected it because it was the only change I had made. When I remove
>>>FAX services the problem goes away.
>>>
>>> There were no error messages but I'll look at the event viewer and logs.
>>>
>>> Sorry about posting here. This seems to be a news group with active
>>> users.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5BC011E9-401C-4D88-BF6F-4A74506A0A7A@microsoft.com...
>>>> Rather a vague, convoluted story. Why did you suspect the Fax Service
>>>> in the first place? What made you think uninstalling it would help?
>>>> If I were you I'd be looking for more concrete steps to reproduce your
>>>> problem, error messages, and Event viewer. Trust me, no one has
>>>> reported anything like it, especially in this group, which is for
>>>> Outlook.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Russ Valentine
>>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>>> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.RemoveThis@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:pfSdnQaYpdNeMH_anZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>>>>I have a strange problem after installing WinXP FAX services. I am
>>>>>running XP MCE SP2 on a Dell XPS410 with all security and hotfixes
>>>>>done. I use Trend Micro Internet Security 2007.
>>>>>
>>>>> After re-booting, the desktop comes up normally but I can't do
>>>>> anything for several minutes with a number of applications such as IE6
>>>>> or Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. These hang for several minutes.
>>>>> Eventually they will run. Un-intstalling Fax Services cures the
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> The FAX service does work just fine once up and running. I have tried
>>>>> auto answer off and automatic. Having the phone line connected to the
>>>>> modem makes no difference. I didn't go into Outlook to configure
>>>>> anyhting there since I do not use Outlook.
>>>>>
>>>>> Process Explorer doesn't show any activity other System Idle Process
>>>>> during the hang. Once whatever is hanging is done then I see changes
>>>>> and additions to the Processes in Process Explorer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked at the Microsoft Knowledge Base, also Bruces Printing Pages
>>>>> and Slipstick.com but didn't see any comments about this problem. A
>>>>> Google search didn't come up with similar problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:08 am
Post subject: Re: Problem with Windows XP FAX Services [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I was lazy!
Thank you again for the info.
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5479C0DD-7F7D-4A87-8B32-B9E796B7E2BA@microsoft.com...
> What does that have to do with your Internet provider?
> Use the Microsoft public news server. That's where you're posting, you
> know.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.DeleteThis@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:_bKdnXegHtHgYn_anZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> My Internet provider doesnt have an XP Fax group available. I'll do some
>> more digging. I found a number of error events logged oin the event
>> viewer to investigate.
>>
>> Thank you again
>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:248E23DA-D46F-497D-95B1-2FB27C9AD2DC@microsoft.com...
>>>I would post in the XP Fax group. Perhaps someone there has seen it. I
>>>would still post a lot more detail that "it was the only change I made."
>>>That would mean nothing to someone who wasn't watching what you were
>>>doing.
>>> --
>>> Russ Valentine
>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.DeleteThis@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ldqdnd0PLJXBfn_anZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>>>I suspected it because it was the only change I had made. When I remove
>>>>FAX services the problem goes away.
>>>>
>>>> There were no error messages but I'll look at the event viewer and
>>>> logs.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry about posting here. This seems to be a news group with active
>>>> users.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5BC011E9-401C-4D88-BF6F-4A74506A0A7A@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Rather a vague, convoluted story. Why did you suspect the Fax Service
>>>>> in the first place? What made you think uninstalling it would help?
>>>>> If I were you I'd be looking for more concrete steps to reproduce your
>>>>> problem, error messages, and Event viewer. Trust me, no one has
>>>>> reported anything like it, especially in this group, which is for
>>>>> Outlook.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Russ Valentine
>>>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>>>> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam.DeleteThis@ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:pfSdnQaYpdNeMH_anZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>>>>>I have a strange problem after installing WinXP FAX services. I am
>>>>>>running XP MCE SP2 on a Dell XPS410 with all security and hotfixes
>>>>>>done. I use Trend Micro Internet Security 2007.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After re-booting, the desktop comes up normally but I can't do
>>>>>> anything for several minutes with a number of applications such as
>>>>>> IE6 or Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. These hang for several
>>>>>> minutes. Eventually they will run. Un-intstalling Fax Services cures
>>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The FAX service does work just fine once up and running. I have tried
>>>>>> auto answer off and automatic. Having the phone line connected to the
>>>>>> modem makes no difference. I didn't go into Outlook to configure
>>>>>> anyhting there since I do not use Outlook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Process Explorer doesn't show any activity other System Idle Process
>>>>>> during the hang. Once whatever is hanging is done then I see changes
>>>>>> and additions to the Processes in Process Explorer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I looked at the Microsoft Knowledge Base, also Bruces Printing Pages
>>>>>> and Slipstick.com but didn't see any comments about this problem. A
>>>>>> Google search didn't come up with similar problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:20 am
Post subject: Re: Problem with Windows XP FAX Services [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I just checked the Microsoft public news server. It has the same groups that
I have now. There is no specific XP Fax group, the closest is
windowsxp.print_fax.
Thank you again
"Rich" <Rich_NoSpam DeleteThis @ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
news:HJmdnb96ZI3TOH7anZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@ptd.net...
>I was lazy!
>
> Thank you again for the info.
>
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5479C0DD-7F7D-4A87-8B32-B9E796B7E2BA@microsoft.com...
>> What does that have to do with your Internet provider?
>> Use the Microsoft public news server. That's where you're posting, you
>> know.
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam DeleteThis @ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:_bKdnXegHtHgYn_anZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>> My Internet provider doesnt have an XP Fax group available. I'll do some
>>> more digging. I found a number of error events logged oin the event
>>> viewer to investigate.
>>>
>>> Thank you again
>>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:248E23DA-D46F-497D-95B1-2FB27C9AD2DC@microsoft.com...
>>>>I would post in the XP Fax group. Perhaps someone there has seen it. I
>>>>would still post a lot more detail that "it was the only change I made."
>>>>That would mean nothing to someone who wasn't watching what you were
>>>>doing.
>>>> --
>>>> Russ Valentine
>>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>>> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam DeleteThis @ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ldqdnd0PLJXBfn_anZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>>>>I suspected it because it was the only change I had made. When I remove
>>>>>FAX services the problem goes away.
>>>>>
>>>>> There were no error messages but I'll look at the event viewer and
>>>>> logs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry about posting here. This seems to be a news group with active
>>>>> users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:5BC011E9-401C-4D88-BF6F-4A74506A0A7A@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Rather a vague, convoluted story. Why did you suspect the Fax Service
>>>>>> in the first place? What made you think uninstalling it would help?
>>>>>> If I were you I'd be looking for more concrete steps to reproduce
>>>>>> your problem, error messages, and Event viewer. Trust me, no one has
>>>>>> reported anything like it, especially in this group, which is for
>>>>>> Outlook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Russ Valentine
>>>>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>>>>> "Rich" <Rich_NoSpam DeleteThis @ptd_nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:pfSdnQaYpdNeMH_anZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>>>>>>I have a strange problem after installing WinXP FAX services. I am
>>>>>>>running XP MCE SP2 on a Dell XPS410 with all security and hotfixes
>>>>>>>done. I use Trend Micro Internet Security 2007.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After re-booting, the desktop comes up normally but I can't do
>>>>>>> anything for several minutes with a number of applications such as
>>>>>>> IE6 or Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. These hang for several
>>>>>>> minutes. Eventually they will run. Un-intstalling Fax Services cures
>>>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The FAX service does work just fine once up and running. I have
>>>>>>> tried auto answer off and automatic. Having the phone line connected
>>>>>>> to the modem makes no difference. I didn't go into Outlook to
>>>>>>> configure anyhting there since I do not use Outlook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Process Explorer doesn't show any activity other System Idle Process
>>>>>>> during the hang. Once whatever is hanging is done then I see changes
>>>>>>> and additions to the Processes in Process Explorer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I looked at the Microsoft Knowledge Base, also Bruces Printing
>>>>>>> Pages and Slipstick.com but didn't see any comments about this
>>>>>>> problem. A Google search didn't come up with similar problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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